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PND with first, did it happen again with subsequent babies?

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Luckyme30 · 01/03/2022 20:37

Ive found myself pregnant with a second baby and I’m in the process of considering my options. I suffer severe prenatal depression and anxiety and Tokophobia (fear of pregnancy).

I’m 9 weeks and the last 3 weeks have been a complete blur whilst trying to look after my 16 month old and work. Ive barely been able to lift my head from the pillow and talk to anyone some days and my son has suffered.

When pregnant with him I sought support from the perinatal MH team who assessed me and deemed me to be ‘low risk’ even with a severe phobia of pregnancy/birth. I ended up with private counselling weekly throughout my pregnancy to get me through and eventually at around 18 weeks my consultant referred me to the specialist midwife (not MH) but a named midwife who I would see consistently throughout pregnancy.

This all helped but when my son was born the support dwindled and my HV was not very helpful (being in the middle of a pandemic obviously didn’t help matters). The midwife could only support for 4 weeks after birth and the health visitor rarely replied to my messages asking for help.

My son had reflux, CMPA and colic and would only sleep if rocked to sleep, sometimes taking 30 mins for him to then only sleep for 10 mins, I was exhausted. My partner took what time he was able to off work to help me and ended up taking a few days off every month to give me w break as I admitted to him I was struggling.

At times I felt so helpless and desperate, I love my boy but it was so so hard in those early months, I struggled to bond and no one really listened, my mum dismissed my feelings and Friends who had babies at the time all seemed to breeze through with easy going babies so couldn’t seem to relate. I felt so alone.

A huge huge part of me is considering termination because in my heart I think it’s the right thing to do for my family, I don’t want my son to suffer if I go downhill, I can’t say I’ll not suffer with PND again.
Im terrified baby will be worse than my son, reflux and non-sleeper and I just don’t know if mentally I can do it as well as looking after an active toddler.

My partner works 12 hour days so it will be me on my own (with some help from my mum but she does work too).

A small part of me (when I’m not feeling depressed/overwhelmed) really wants to give my son a sibling and experience another baby but I am just terrified that this time it’ll be worse and PND will be worse and that something awful will happen.

I guess my point of my post is has anyone felt similar or suffered with PND in their first pregnancy and gone on to have a second? What support did you have in place to help?

I think because I was not taken seriously the first time around I have no faith in the system, they all seemed to think that I breezed through motherhood, I think I may have been too scared to disclose my real feelings, despite asking for help, maybe I played it down a little when around professionals.

If I go ahead and have a termination I will never put myself through this again but a part of me knows there will be regret that I didn’t try it.

I honestly feel torn!

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JennyAuker · 08/03/2022 21:17

Hi OP. You sound like you’re really suffering here.

I am not yet pregnant with a second so can’t completely help on that front. I suffered severe PND and anxiety with my first who is now 26 months. It started during the pregnancy with continued remunerating thoughts. I refused medication during pregnancy and started soon after birth at around 3 months PP when the doctors referred me to a mother and baby unit. Anyway, enough about me, there’s a message in here somewhere.

My thoughts are firstly, are you receiving any medication and is this something you have discussed with your doctor? I tend to find doctors more knowledgeable on this than the midwife’s so if you do want to continue with the pregnancy I would definitely discuss options with the doctors on this as you may find meds make a difference. My friend is on her second pregnancy following PND with her first and is on 10ml of sertraline a day and wouldn’t be any other way. I’m definitely not drug pushing but if that helps it’s worth exploring.

Secondly, if you are really struggling with the pregnancy fears have you considered an elected c-section. Again, controversial I’m sure but if having a date and some control helps you it may be worth thinking about. I personally found the lack of control with pregnancy extremely difficult with my anxiety.

I really hope you are finding some downtime, with a toddler and work already you must be very stressed which never helps you think straight. Don’t beat yourself up, you sound like a wonderful mum who is thinking of her toddler as well as bump. So take care xx

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 08/03/2022 21:35

With my first I had postpartum psychosis and then severe postnatal depression. With my second, I had a few days dip in mood when my milk came in but that was that. Good luck with whatever decision you make Flowers

Luckyme30 · 09/03/2022 08:48

@JennyAuker thank you so much for your reply. It means a lot to have someone reply to this.

I really am at a loss. I’m so scared if I get very bad PND when baby is born that they will take my son (and baby) away from me and I think that’s why I minimised how I was feeling with my first as I was terrified of what would happen if I told them how I really felt Confused how long were you in the mother and baby unit for and do you mind me asking if there was ever a mention of a social worker or anything like that? I think that’s my biggest fear.

I actually had an elective c/section with my son (due to my fears) so this is definitely an option I would pursue again.

Thank you so much for you kind message x

@Dinosauratemydaffodils it’s great to hear that with your second you didn’t experience anything near what you did with your first. Did you find it a struggle coping with two?
My fear is that I struggle just with one now and so I’m just terrified how it will go with 2!

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Atypicalmumm · 21/12/2023 08:21

Hi, I know this is an old thread! But I am in exactly the same position, my son is 2.5 and I never really was sure on having another then by accident I’m 5weeks pregnant but I just don’t know if I can go through the pnd/anxiety & instrusive thoughts again! I just wondered if you decided to go ahead and if you was okay?

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