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Breastfeeding grief

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TruffleNoir · 14/02/2022 15:10

Does breastfeeding grief ever go away? I feel like a year on I'm still reminded that I couldn't do it. I know I made the best decision for me at the time but I keep wishing I had just powered through and maybe it would have got easier like my friends have told me. I'm doing fine until a friend talks about them breastfeeding and I just get a pang of jealousy and feel down for a few hours afterwards :'( just feel like why didn't I keep going or even try combination feeding to get me through? Why did it have to be one or the other :'( I really regret it.

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Perpop · 14/02/2022 23:42

I’m really sorry to hear you’re feeling this way, and to be totally honest I don’t know! But if it helps at all, every single drop of breastmilk you fed your baby will of helped them. Every drop contained millions of antibodies. Can you reframe it and think about how amazing you did with the feeds you did do? I hope you feel better, you’re obviously a great mum!

LittleBearPad · 14/02/2022 23:47

Yes it will go away. I do understand, I was where you were 10 years ago. Now it all seems such a long time ago. It will get better in time.

BootsScootsAndToots · 14/02/2022 23:55

Yes it does go away.

I bf dd, to my detriment but I ploughed through because all the HCP told me too 🙄

We eventually settled on combi feeding until she was 9 months.

Dd2 I bf for 3 weeks until we had her tongue tie cut and she would NOT go back on the boob. I felt such guilt I pumped for 3 months. Waking up twice a night while she slept.

But honestly, dd2 adores me is obsessed really it has not damaged our relationship.

I wanted to bf dd1 as I couldn't see how it wouldn't be the easiest option for night feeds. Yet dd2 slept through from 6 weeks not being bf 🤷

Flittingaboutagain · 15/02/2022 00:26

I'm so sorry. If I hadn't had the support and encouragement to pump and combi feed until tongue tie was sorted eventually I would be in your shoes too. It never would have occurred to me to do both until the issues were resolved. I completely understand it is a grief like experience. I'm sorry you were so badly let down at the time. Please know you did nothing wrong.

Quail15 · 15/02/2022 02:05

Yes it does go away. I only made it to six weeks bfeeding my DD. She had her tongue tie cut at six weeks but it was too late and I developed a huge infection after two poorly treated episodes of mastitis ( I ended up in hospital all over Xmas ).

I felt so guilty at the time that it took me three days to take a tablet that would stop my milk and ultimately help my recovery. I cried for several days after I took it. My midwife had me on daily visits as she thought I was depressed.

3 years on I still think about it but only to be cross at myself for trying to keep feeding DD whilst making myself very unwell. I should have listened to family who were supportive and not listened to professionals. I had one doctor tell me I could still breastfeed with only one boob whilst I was very unwell ( the other boob had a large needle inserted init to drain away the infection ).

Sorry you are feeling this way but it will get better X x

DropYourSword · 15/02/2022 02:36

It definitely went away for me too.

My DS is 5 now. You wouldn't have a clue looking at the kids in his class who was breastfed or not.
You did what you needed to do to get through. That's the best you can ever do.

Flutterby8 · 15/02/2022 12:50

I struggled with breast feeding with my DD. She was never satisfied and would just cry continiously. HV was useless and basically made me feel like rubbish because I couldnt provide enough because I wasnt putting in enough effort or caring for myself. Apparently.

Turned out DD had a severe tongue tie which we discovered despite raising my concerns with everyone which we had fixed privately.
I also had a really low milk supply as I had a chunk of placenta retained which tricked my body into thinking i was still pregnant for 9 weeks post birth. While i had milk, i didnt have enough.

I combination feed. I didnt want to but I do.
I breast feed first and then offer a bottle and DD takes what she needs.
I wanted to exclusively breast feed an d ive cried because ive felt inadequate but baby is happy and healthy and thats whats important now.

argylegreen · 17/02/2022 17:36

@TruffleNoir. I rarely go on mumsnet and have only posted once before but I have spent the last 7 months in a deep, dark state of 'breastfeeding grief' so tonight I decided to 'bite the bullet' and post, on the off chance that someone else might feel the same, that's when I came across your post.

I just want to say that I deeply feel your pain and that if you want to message me just to offload to someone who understands, you are welcome. It has been such a lonely journey for me. I have found my breastfeeding grief one of the hardest things to get over, to the point that it's been hard to enjoy my baby and function daily at times.
I have had a lot of guilt intertwined with it all as I have a nursing background and even practised as a midwife for a brief spell during which I did extra breastfeeding training.
On reflection, I can see now that my mental health was a big factor in all of this - I undoubtedly had postnatal depression and very little support, certainly no breastfeeding cheerleaders alongside . There are always very real reasons but it doesn't make the pain any easier. I have been considering writing more about it on a blog as there is just not enough on the subject and I have felt so desperate at times. I should add that I am going to go for counselling as I'm sure my grief is deep rooted. I also believe that we can use this grief to make us even better mummies in the long run and that there is always so much hope 💕 Sending love x

argylegreen · 17/02/2022 18:00

@TruffleNoirlso,

I just want to comment on wondering if combination feeding would've made a difference....yes, for some this works and that is wonderful but for me it didn't. I was combination feeding when my milk dried up. Of course, it's a simple science of supply and demand so if I'd been more vigilante it wouldn't have happened. Turns out she just didn't want the breast as much as the bottle and when she was breastfeeding, it was clearly non nutritive sucking and milk wasn't being extracted. It dried up very suddenly and I haven't recovered since. I guess if I'd been less stressed I'd have realised this but life was just hectic. Now things are calmer, I have plenty of time to reflect on it all 🤦🏻‍♀️

TruffleNoir · 20/02/2022 08:34

Thank you everyone for taking time to reply. I have been reading this past week but couldn't get in the right head space to sit down on my own and reply to you.

@Perpop that is so kind and I genuinely didn't even think of the breastmilk I DID give her. That's helped change the way I reflect on our journey.

@LittleBearPad I'm sorry you went through the deme thing but it'd helped to hear someone who has gone through the same a longer time ago and how you feel now.

@BootsScootsAndToots that makes sense as well I think whatever happens does end up being the right option. That's great they slept from 6 weeks though! I sadly didn't get that haha.

@Flittingaboutagain I'm glad you got that support to help you through the difficult stage. I wish I'd combi fed tbh but as you say I'm realising now I was let down with the support. Could have been to do with covid and restrictions too.

@Quail15 sorry to hear about your mastitis it sounds horrendous. I ca. Understand what you were going through at the time but glad you can reflect now and realise what you did was the right thing in the end.

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chocopuffs · 20/02/2022 08:38

Oh OP I feel the same. Like @Quail15 I made it to six weeks and it was breaking me. My DD had tongue tie and simply wouldn't latch. I feel so resentful when I hear people talk about the close bond they felt with their babies and when I was faffing around with bottles and the perfect prep I really wished it had worked for me. It's reassuring to hear it gets better with time. I think unless you've experienced it, it's really hard to relate. Hearing that any breast milk I fed my baby will benefit her doesn't make me feel better - it makes me feel like I let her down by not being able to give her more. I know comments like that are well meant but it's such a raw feeling of grief.

TruffleNoir · 20/02/2022 08:41

@DropYourSword thanks for your experience too. I'm glad it went away especially when they're in school situations etc. I just hope having friends or families breastfeeding keeps triggering me.

@Flutterby8 I'm so sorry you've been through this and not being able to EBF like you wanted to. As a PP said about every breastfeed is really good for your baby and you're giving them the best you can.

@argylegreen what amazing timing you came across my post when going through similar! I'm so sorry how awful its been for you this past 7 months and how it's affecting you mentally. I do really relate to this. Thanks for your offer to chat. I think a blog is a brilliant idea. I've been keeping a personal journal recently and noting down triggers and how I feel about it and its definitely helped!

The breastfeeding grief and poor sleep triggered post natal depression for me and I feel a lot better now on meds but equally I just hate the triggers all the time. Even when someone close to me tells me they're pregnant I can feel the pang and jealously there and I just want to get rid of this feeling.

The weird thing is my best friends have both formula fed their children so I know I'm not the only one not to breastfeed so I really don't know why this is so impotent to me.

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TruffleNoir · 20/02/2022 08:44

@chocopuffs I can also relate to the making bottles at night and I did keep feeling like wouldn't it have been easier if I was breastfeeding! For me I was told the latch was OK but she wasn't getting much out of me, she kept falling asleep and I was trying to "triple feed" which was tiring and when she got weighed again she was still below weight so I had a cry and said I can't keep doing this. I do wish I'd have combi fed but now reading @argylegreen comment about drying up maybe that wouldn't have worked either 🤷🏻‍♀️

I just want the upsetting, jealousy and resentful feelings to go away Sad

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argylegreen · 20/02/2022 12:13

@TruffleNoir. Yes I get the jealousy feeling 100%. Sucha hard thing to admit so thank goodness for spaces like this. I can’t speak any platitudes into that, I still experience it BUT I have found heaps of skin to skin, baby wearing and quality time has helped me manage these feelings. You can still experience all that lovely oxytocin being realised by skin to skin, I do this in the dark at night whilst giving her her bottle and it’s just quality. This is my third baby and honestly breastfeeding grief has made me a far more present mum than I was with my first two. Obviously I had to get through the deep pain that made me withdraw from her initially but now I’m just trying to soak up every minute in a way I didn’t with the other two and I honestly believe I have a stronger bond with her than I did with her older siblings at her age. Good things can be brought forth from pain as deep as this. On a practical note, I don’t visit the Facebook /Instagram pages which may trigger and spend less time with my friends who are doing extended breastfeeding. It’s sucks that I have to do this but I’m putting myself and baby first.

I’m glad journaling as helped and overtime you find peace.

I just want to share a little bit more incase it helps and selfishly because it helps me. I breastfed my first two til 12 months and 14 months respectively. I haven’t reflected heaps on this because there was no trauma and I simply moved onto the next stage with them.

With my 3rd, there were issues from the start. She had a broken clavicle and although this healed quickly, it meant she could only lie on one side to feed as she’d never known anything different and after 8 weeks of doing so, I could not break this habit. Then there was the nipple shied - she never weaned off it, I tried desperately hard as I’d weaned my other two off after a week or two but she would scream and scream until I put it back on. In hindsight I should’ve called a IBCLC but I felt I should know better, thinking about it now, it seem ridiculous. At 6 months we started mixed feeding and by 8 months my milk dried up. The irony is that the mixed feeding had allowed the space and time for me to have a break and at the same time, the weather had improved and the dark haze I’d been living in was lifting. I started to feel happier and this was clearly down to more sleep, better weather and (controversially), losing some weight, also getting outside more. I had other personal issues that had affected my mood but at least some things were easing. Once I started to feel better, my milk dried up and I was left in a horrible situation of wanting to breastfeed but couldn’t. So to be clear I’d been very depressed when feeding during the first 8 months and it hadn’t been a beautiful peaceful experience. I feel it’s really important to highlight this as even if you’d managed to breastfeed longer, it may still have been very difficult. In my case, I do believe it was about to get better as I was feeling much more myself when my milk dried up. I had her on formula for a month and then started relactating. This was horrific as I lost more sleep and hormones went crazy but after a month I had 75% of milk back. I did everything to try and get her to relatch but she just screamed every time and I wept and wept. So from 9 to 12 month I fed her pumped milk and topped up with formula. She was very ill from the moment my milk dried up (a cruel coincidence) and I couldn’t comfort her because she’d smell my milk, want it desperately but not latch so the screaming would start and I’d hand her to my husband and pump frantically. I was never quite making enough and it was constant anxiety. When my husband was away during the day and I was managing our other two also, it was horrendous . My story is messy and bitty and yes I know I breastfeed for a good stint but the fact I didn’t enjoy the first 8 months, the abrupt stop, coupled with her being so ill and refusing to relatch completed broke me. She had virus after virus from 8 to 15 months and it’s been a constant guilt trip for me. I’m not saying that the milk would definitely have been the cure but I wanted to nurse her during this time. Thankfully she is well now. She is our last baby and I’m just sad it had to end like this but I do believe healing will come. My other two are super affectionate at 3 and 5 and once she is through her super independent baby stage, I think that the cuddles will increase and it’ll help heal my heart. It’s a hard phase when peers are falling pregnant and breastfeeding but this phase will pass and onto the next when the triggers will be far less frequent and there will be more peace.

argylegreen · 20/02/2022 12:18

Sorry, a plethora of typos due to rushing…

Meant to say ‘ I’m glad journaling has helped and hope overtime you find peace.’

TruffleNoir · 26/02/2022 13:46

@argylegreen thanks for sharing your experience. I hope it helps to write it out and it's also helped me to read it.

I've been doing really well this week, unfollowed some baby pages and groups to keep triggers away.

My DSIL has recently had a baby and breastfeed so this is the trigger I can't ignore but need to learn to accept that this is the case and try and move on from these feelings. It's been tough as when she's shared pics of the baby, not even mentioning breastfeeding, when I see her MIL or SIL commenting it triggers me as they both breastfed and been giving my DSIL lots of support and I just feel like on this side I'm not as good 🤦🏻‍♀️

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argylegreen · 11/03/2022 04:48

@TruffleNoir
Sorry for delay. I am so glad to hear that you’ve been doing better and very wise to unfollow any triggers. Be kind to yourself, if someone is breastfeeding in your home or whatever or you just don’t want to be round a newborn, go make the tea or play with your little one.

If you are still struggling and need therapy then do it. I’m still struggling 10 months on so I’m starting therapy very soon. I know it’s pricey but I’ve decided it’s worth the investment.

This is really hard and I’m not going to lie, it lies in the back of my mind most days but you can get past this - it will take time and therapy (professional or talking to friend/family) .

Just want you to know I get it. I also stand by what I said, this process of grief has definitely made me a more attentive mother as I’ve tried harder in the other areas I can make an effort in - play, quality time etc and my bond is stronger with my now toddler than it was with my older two at this age.

turkeylurkeyl · 11/03/2022 04:58

4 years on and I'm still sad it didn't work out for me. But it becomes less and less, especially as friends children are all weaned now.

TruffleNoir · 29/03/2022 15:28

@turkeylurkeyl I'm sorry you're still feeling dad about it but that's a good point about when friends children are older and weaned off, must make it a bit easier.

@argylegreen again thanks for such a detailed and thoughtful post.

I've downloaded Amy Brown's breastfeed grief book and planning on starting it soon. I've had a busy couple of weeks so have been distracted but saw a Facebook post today and now my mind is over thinking again.

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TruffleNoir · 09/04/2022 18:43

Hi sorry to bring this up again but can anyone help me. I'm feeling so low because I saw a photo of two friends with their babies who I know breastfeed and I keep feeling so upset about it. It's 18 months now when will it end.

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argylegreen · 11/04/2022 00:58

Hey @TruffleNoir, I am so sorry that you found that picture triggering. I've been there and it's crushing.
Can I ask, did you see this on social media per chance? I found I really had to avoid social media for a long while, actually I rarely use it now as I trained myself to stay off it. I know you can't avoid every picture but it helps limit the amount.
I have been doing a lot better over the last month which I hope will encourage you. In Jan of this year I was utterly broken and my doctor said my symptoms were similar to that of PTSD - I thought the grief was never going to end. What has really helped me is therapy - I cannot recommend it enough. We have talked in detail about why it didn't work out long term and explored the deep rooted issues with surrounding not forgiving myself and I have found breaking it down theoretically has given peace and clarity. The first session, I just cried for about 5 minutes before any words came out, the second session more tears and then by the third session, I realised it must be working somewhat as the burden was not so crippling and I actually spent most the session discussing something else. My therapist t even opened up to me about her own breastfeeding issues (not sure that's professional but I'm very glad she did ) she went through with her baby whom she wanted to breastfeed but couldn't as he kept vomiting so she was forced to go onto formula. I don't know that she felt the panging grief I did but it did serve as a reminder that we can't assume anything about someone and I do think for all the breastfeeding mums out there, there are so many more who wish they could've done it but stress, anxiety, lack of self belief, support etc means it wasn't to be. We don't live in a society that makes breastfeeding easy for women and yet we take so much ownership when it doesn't work out.

Of course, I know I may have wobbles in the future but I won't hesitate to get myself back into therapy pronto if I need it again.

TruffleNoir · 11/04/2022 16:05

Thanks for replying. I found myself having quite a crisis about it the other day 😬

Yes it was social media which I am trying my hardest not to be on as much. I've removed myself from majority of baby groups as quite a lot have newborn days of feeding topics in them.

I've had counselling before but focused on a lot of underlying issues that came up below the trigger of breastfeeding but think I need more support to get through this. It's such a horrible feeling that comes over me.

I'm seeing my sister in law next week who is still feeding her 1 year old and I'm really anxious about how I'm going to feel about it.

I just can't stop thinking about what if id just kept trying which I know isn't right but I can't help punishing myself.

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Flittingaboutagain · 11/04/2022 16:10

Bless you. I would have been in your shoes if I hadn't got excellent support to combi feed and pump until the issues causing my low supply were properly diagnosed and addressed so I could then switch to breastfeeding at 12 weeks. I think so much comes down to luck and support. You don't know what you don't know. Please don't judge yourself.

I belong to a breastfeeding support group and there are women on there who are breastfeeding a second or third baby living with grief from not breastfeeding the first one. From what I have seen for some women accepting what happened takes a very long time and lots of self compassion Flowers

headspin10 · 11/04/2022 18:34

Really sorry, this sounds horrible Sad

Another experience is I breastfed my 3rd daughter till 13 months but her latch was never good, the start was a nightmare and I don't know why I persisted. Even at a year I would still dread it as it never felt right (though it had been totally fine with my other children) I felt incredibly uncomfortable (almost couldn't bear it) and I think it affected our bonding Sad

It was only when a friend (kindly) said "Don't you think she picks up on how you feel? Why are you still doing it?" At which point we stopped and it was just such a relief.

TruffleNoir · 11/04/2022 19:15

@Flittingaboutagain

Bless you. I would have been in your shoes if I hadn't got excellent support to combi feed and pump until the issues causing my low supply were properly diagnosed and addressed so I could then switch to breastfeeding at 12 weeks. I think so much comes down to luck and support. You don't know what you don't know. Please don't judge yourself.

I belong to a breastfeeding support group and there are women on there who are breastfeeding a second or third baby living with grief from not breastfeeding the first one. From what I have seen for some women accepting what happened takes a very long time and lots of self compassion Flowers

@Flittingaboutagain I think this is one of the things I feel failed by too as although I got great support trying to help at the start it felt like eventually it was kind of all or nothing and gradually I just kept increasing the formula. I wish I'd just decided to keep combi feeding as at least I'd have been giving some breast milk Sad

You're right about it taking a while to accept it xx

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