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Breastfeeding still very painful at 7 weeks

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Lostfirstnature · 29/01/2021 19:53

Hi folks, not sure if anybody has any advice or positive stories of breastfeeding pain improving after the 7 week point.
My baby had tongue tie which was corrected at 8 days, the nipple pain improved at that point but not totally, I saw a BF consultant at the time who observed my latch and said it looked ok and gave some tips for deep latch technique. The pain never really went and I have to admit I didn't take him off the breast when it was a painful latch as it was so rare that we got a pain free one. To date over 7 weeks, I can probably count about 10 pain free latches so it is possible, we just don't seem to get it often enough.
Over the past 2 weeks I have been really trying to get a good latch each time but it just isn't working as I am in alot of pain. He cluster feeds all evening so whilst there is recovery time between feeds during the day, by the evening it is incredibly painful to feed. I have seen another bf counsellor on zoom who recommended using shields which we have tried but sometimes it is still as painful with the shield or I feel like he isn't getting milk through it so I don't use them all the time.
I think the issue isn't so much my nipple on the hard palate but that he is chomping hard while breastfeeding rather than suckling. Trying to get the perfect latch with his tongue down and out and his mouth wide is just impossible especially with how often he feeds.
Does anyone have anything else I should be doing or can try?
Has anyone had similar experience of this and it improved over time?
Every day think about quitting and am very close to throwing in the towel and moving to formula. He is just such a content baby though and loves his feeds so that keeps me persisting.

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Peridotty · 29/01/2021 19:57

Don’t quit! Have you tried sticking your finger (clean) against nipple and lips and try everting the lips? A lot of pain is when the lips are inverted and biting down on to the nipple. It should be fish lips (both lips everted). My baby when she was much younger inverted her top lip and it was hard. But when she was older like a few months old, her lips grew and it didn’t punch anymore. She’s now 8 months and still BF

CottonSock · 29/01/2021 19:59

You have done the very hardest bit. Try and give it just a bit longer.

MerryDecembermas · 29/01/2021 19:59

I had to flip the lips out for both DC.

I found by 12w it was nearly painless. Lots of lasinoh and loose cotton t shirts, no bra or nipple pads as that irritated things

Firsttimemummybear · 29/01/2021 19:59

Don’t give up - I used to cry every time but it soon gets better!
Just make sure babies mouth is over your nipple, if latch is wrong take baby off and try again.
In the meantime purchase midwife experts nipple balm it saved me.x

CottonSock · 29/01/2021 20:00

Although if it's making you suffer then obviously stop..I didn't mean to sound like there's no option.

Gerdticker · 29/01/2021 22:37

You poor heroic thing! Sounds really tough.

Could you express for a day or two, to give your nipples a break? It’s hard to fix the latch when the skin is so worn and painful. Could you hand express or maybe do you have a pump? I can recommend the Elvie, it’s expensive but great!

I too thought about switching to formula at about 6-7 weeks because I was so ruddy tired! But introducing formula can bring other issues, and you’ve come so far that you’re right to explore all the options before making a change...

One friend of mine never got the latch right and exclusively expressed for several months, it worked well for her, so that’s an option too

Good luck! Solidarity!

boydy99 · 29/01/2021 22:48

you could try laid back feeding so baby can get a nice deep latch. or maybe lying down, although I'm not sure if that makes it easier or harder for them. Good luck Smile

GLTM · 29/01/2021 22:54

Could you have nipple thrush or even mastitis? Nipple thrush can be hard to diagnose, but causes breastfeeding to be very painful even with good latch. I had it and was taking paracetamol and ibuprofen and still in pain. I recommend speaking to your Dr and if unsure try the treatment to see if it helps.

GLTM · 29/01/2021 22:57

In terms of positions the laid back position helps get a deeper latch. This is where the baby lies on top of you as you lean back on pillows or something.

I hope it eases for you soon.

Peridotty · 30/01/2021 00:16

The other thing I tried was dangle feeding where I dangled my boob into her mouth by crouching over her lying on the bed. I had to do that for a couple of weeks when she had a nursing strike.

Lostfirstnature · 30/01/2021 09:47

Thank you all, I haven't been pushing out his lips, sometimes they are out, sometimes in, will try that. also the paid back feeding bis something I tried in early days and couldn't quite manage but will try again.
@GLTM I had thought of this but there are no white patches in babies mouth and my nipples aren't shiny. If anything they are blanched as often white after feeds.
Last night we had a couple of good feeds which was great but 4am feed really really hurt despite trying for a better latch several times :(

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GLTM · 30/01/2021 09:58

It might be worth ruling out an underlying infection. It's hard for me to advise and I'm not a Dr all I can say is I thought my pain was due to latch and had blanching, but my mum suggested an infection and it was. I would get shooting pain. So just something to consider and may not reflect your position. I really hope it eases for you soon

Lostfirstnature · 30/01/2021 10:13

Thanks, worth getting checked. Have postpartum GP app in a week's time so will say it. I also get shooting pain between feeds sometimes

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boydy99 · 30/01/2021 16:49

actually I had an infection i remember now, and it was really sore! nurse practitioner couldn't diagnose, I had a 'diagnosis' over Facebook messenger by the infant feeding team who told me what cream to ask for. also the swab came back negative but the only thing that sorted the pain was the cream for a staph infection. you might have to really push the GP to consider infection as everyone other than the infant feeding team just put it down to baby biting in the night Hmm

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