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bluesatinsash · 01/05/2010 20:50

Ta da!

Hope this shakes a few of us out of where we're languishing these days .

Let this be the one-stop shop into everything that is the crazy, wonderful, sleep and sanity deprived world of bringing up baby

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irishmumwannabe · 09/07/2010 21:16

Right - I'm like a bus aren't I - none for ages and then two in a row.

Right well here I am at 34 weeks (tomorrow) and still going strong. LIttle bumpette is wriggling away as I type. All's going well with me and her - she's a good size apparently and all my bloods/pressure etc are normal.

DH and I had our first ante natal class last week, second part on Tuesday. The midwives were lovely and really full of information and put us at ease. Learned my breathing technique and how to relax as well. Second class on Tuesday will be about the second stage of labour.

I still haven't packed my hospital bag - DH is freaking out about that a little but we'll get a list from the midwives on Tuesday so we'll pack it then.

I'm going to be going on maternity leave on the 29th July and not getting back to work until the 24th of June next year. It sounds like forever but I'm sure it'll fly past for me.

I used my yummy mummy spa package from my DH last weekend. I got back and upper body, lower leg and indian head massage as well as a collagen treatment on my bump. It was fabulous but took it out of me the next day I was wrecked.

We have nearly gotten the house ready for the visitors after the babs is born. All I have to finish now is the hall with a carpet and paint the walls.

Right that's all my news for now - sorry for making you do the mammoth readathon and if you've gotten to the end of this one well done.

I'll be working from home and should be more able to post - I won't promise this time but you'll hear from me more often.

Talk to you soon

JumpingJellyfish · 16/07/2010 12:38

Popping on sneakily at work- sorry haven't been on for a while, it's all been pretty hectic here as ever.

Irish really lovely to hear from you- 34 weeks!! Time is flying! Glad you're enjoying the antenatal classes and getting all prepared- the spa sounded good too! How are you feeling as you get bigger in these last few weeks? Hope you're still managing to sleep ok!

Bella wow indeed at your career! Can completely see you dilemma though, sounds like it would be near impossible to juggle a normal home life let alone a child with such a demanding role... Really hope you can find something you'd enjoy but allow you more flexibility... How is George doing on the solids now? Your approach to the whole weaning thing sounds just right to me!

Wasabi how is Clara taking to the solids? So glad the b'feeding has got a bit easier again. We too seem to have some days of poonami here, even though F has been on solids for a while- and it does disturb her nights a lot. I think it may actually be sometimes too much cows milk based products in my diet or her food. She certainly doesn't have lactose intolerance but perhaps some sensitivity or her gut isn't that mature for it yet, so have cut down a little...

Blue how are you settling back into work now and the new routines? Hope the DSs are adjusting to it all well?

Thank you all for the graduation congrats We had a really lovely day, thankfully F was well on the mend so not too many rear end explosions at inappropriate moments! Can't quite believe I finally made it to that stage!
Not much more news here, just the usual madness! Finding some days at the moment I'm getting quite down, to the point that I was beginning to wonder if PND was rearing it's ugly head..have never had it with the others though borderline after DD1 was diagnosed with CF- but I think anyone would feel that way in that situation so wasn't true PND... Just very hard finding any time for myself or DH at the moment and the pure tedium of keeping on top of housework etc. can at times wear me down. I adore the days when I'm home with the 3 DCs and we can get out and about, or play outside a lot, but obviously many days we have to keep on top of the mundanities and the fun seems to disappear from the day! Just hard keeping a balance and keeping chaos at bay iyswim. After Ffion was poorly last week DS then came down with a different bug this week so we have spent a lot of time at home in isolation it feels- and also missing time at work so feel I'm a little overstretched at the moment! To top it off we had a little bit of bad news re DD1, her lungs are beginning to show changes consistent with some lung damage due to her CF, as we would expect, but had hoped not to see yet They are only minor changes but it's the first time we're beginning to see the beginning of the progressive deterioration that characterises CF, and I can't keep burying my head in the sand forever She is doing well overall though, so keep focusing on all the positives... Just makes me wonder if I should even hope to have a career and juggle 3 DCs one with a serious medical condition.. But in a way work keeps me just a little bit saner!!

Still, on the plus side everyone seems well again today, and Ffion is beginning to settle more at nights without cosleeping. I'm now giving her a bedtime b'feed (7.30pm), then a bottle of formula at 11.30pm, then one more b'feed around 3am (a fairly quick one)- and she then sleeps until 7am. Doesn't sound that great but is actually a bit improvement as she's settling well between those feeds. Seem to be managing mix feeding at the moment (2 bottles a day, 2-3 b'feeds a day) but may wean her off me completely soon as wonder how much that is adding to the general tiredness, though realise most of the tiredness is just lack of sleep!!

Right, as usual have ranted far longer than I intended- sorry

Lots of love to you all- come back and post soon! xx

bluesatinsash · 16/07/2010 20:40

Logged on to take tumbleweed talking stick off Irish but lo jumpingPhD had posted .

jumping - so sorry to hear your DD1 CF has started to officially rear it ugly head . I don't know alot about CF, are there varying degrees you can be affected? Am I right (I hope not) in saying it can mean a shorter lifespan ? Really feel for you and the uncertainty of how it will progress..

On a happier note, great to hear your graduation went well and you got to hold the talcum powder tube (I always used to think scrolls were 1970's AVON talcum powder (from my Mum's graduation from nursery teaching circa 1976 ).

FFion is doing great if she's only down to one night waking. I bet your bottom dollar if Ben was still BF he would still be up at least twice, but maybe not if he was on solids, I'll never know. He has taken to solids like a duck to water, gets all excited about going in his high chair and loves to suck the (unsalted) butter off toast . He had butternut squash for the first time today and chicken for the first time on Thurs. His bowels are v. regular, every morning about 20 mins after his bottle - he is almost taking the newspaper to the loo - men eh! Oh and he is sleeping 12 hours - no really .

I think you're doing tremendously in coping with it all and I was totally nodding at your fun days v tedious housework/cabin fever grumpy days.. I don't think I've had PND in its true sense but got very very down with both boys in the old BF reflux/fretting/no sleep phase. I got very down about 11 years ago (after breaking up with old boyfriend and buying my first flat). I remember that feeling of just - nothingness. What helped me were my lovely friends and reading a few self help books. I use some of the coping mechanisms from them to this day i.e. even if I'm having a crap day I know at one point I will be on the couch with a cuppa relaxing whislt both boys are asleep. My 'reward' for getting through the day. I've always been a vocal person WRT feelings - very unScottish! - and do feel it helps to offload to close friends and family who I know are genuinely concerned.

It does get easier as the babies get bigger but I do catch myself not wanting to wish it all away as they will be surly, teenagers before I know it and getting them out their beds will be my major role in life .

Boys have coped well with me going back to work although Ben was a bit huffy with me when he came back on Wed.. But all was forgotten when I produced some dinner .

Anyway, enough already about me!

Irish - I love reading about your preparations, you are so fresh and new and have-it-all-to-come. I'm actually. Hope you enjoyed your spa day and have lots of treats lined up before your DD arrives and turns your world upsidedown (but in the best way ever [smile). Off for nearly a year - yay!

Bella - you've gone walkabout again - tsk tsk!

wasabi - I bow to your superior taste in radio . I'm a radio 2 girl and actually have a secret crush on Ken Bruce - he has kept me company through many a bf session these past few years. How's C's feeding going this week?

Head - is your MIL still in situ?

Sunny - you've fallen off the radar again too missy!

Right off as its wine o'clock. DH and me are off to a wedding tomorrow - over night stay n hotel and everything - I've even had a wee spray tan . First night away from Ben ever. Wish me luck!

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irishmumwannabe · 22/07/2010 12:57

Junping So sorry to hear abour your DD - CF is tough isn't it? I've no family experience but have lost a couple of friends who suffered from it. Hopefully as you say teh positives will outweight the negatives for a long time and maybe research will come up with a way of, if not curing it, then prolonging sufferers' life spans even more.
You are right to keep on working as you say it will keep you sane and give you soemthing to focus on outside the house. I hope you feel better soon.

Blue glad the return to work has gone well for you I had to laugh at the surly teenager remark - my mother wrned me about that the other day" They grow up too fast"

I'm looking forward to having my world turned upside down - only 4 weeks from Saturday so can't wait. Hopefully I'll be on time ( or as near as possible) Sleep seems to be eluding me at the moment I keep waking at 3 a.m. and then not being able to drop back off. Indigestion is also rearing it's ugly head - chewable rennie are my friends at the minute. We're buying the nursery chair at the weekend and that's the last of the nursery prep done, only one more week in work too. Cannot wait for the end of the 2 hours commuting a day - I was saying how tired I was to one of my friend's the other day and she said "Well you are carrying a baby up and down for an hour each way every day"

Anyway heading off now - hope the rest of you are all keeping well adn the little bubs are behaving for you all. Come back soon and fill us in. I'll be on more often once I get out of work before teh B-Day arrives.

BellaBalloon · 23/07/2010 15:52

Hi everyone
So sorry for long absence again. Everything a bit full on here.

First of all though jumping I am so so sorry to hear how tough things are for you. No wonder you think you may have PND. You are carrying a couple of packhorses in weight on your shoulders at the moment and without enough sleep - well i am in awe that you are still standing at all to be honest. What a worry for you with DD1. Like irish said hopefully medical advances will continue to be made - i am sure you pray for that all of the time too. Don't feel bad about head burying - what else are you supposed to do? If you thought about it all day every day you would surely explode. Has F's sleep improved? Have you thought about weaning her off the boob yet? I only ask because a couple of my ante natal group friends have and they say they have a lot more energy. The act of bfing doesn't half drain you i find quite aside from night wakings. Is there anyone who can help with the housework? it sounds like your DH at least does to his share. Is there any possible way that you can find half an hour a day for you to be alone or alone with DH to recharge a bit? Depression is truly hideous. Like Blue my previous relationship ended with me being very very down and I think i had been depressed for the year leading up to it.I remember not having anything like joie de vivre. Everything felt neutral and numb or just plain shitty but never fun or exciting or even interesting. I remember thinking that my old personality was just a thing of the past and that this new flat soulless person was just who i was. yuk. I wish I had recognised that it was depression as I wouldn't have let it drag on for as long as i did. my cure was to read a bit, get very in to astrology go on lots of holidays and have lots of romances which culminated in me meeting my DDDDDP Not very helpful remedies for you though My mum is a psychotherapist so i now feel pretty up to date with all things depression related. The thing is yours is not just in your head and concerning self esteem and life direction as mine was - far far far from it - so i really do hope that you can somehow find a way to lighten the parts of your load that can be lightened.
I am nervous that some/ all of that may sound trite or patronising. That is not my intention at all - obviously - i have been thinking about you all week and i have so much respect for you. PLEASE don't be hard on yourself and think that you should be able to cope any better than you are. You really are only (super) human
By the way on a lighter note have been chuclking to myself all week about poonamis - might steal and appropriate it

i talk like this in real life too. as dp says yabbayabbayabba {grin]{angry]

Thanks all for kind comments re job. There certainly are very exciting and glam elements it's just a shame that all the people I work with are wankers a bit annoying. It's the sort of industry that attracts unattractive personalities unfortunately. too many up themselves people for my liking. I wouldn't write so frankly for fear of being outed (again) but feel quite safe hidden away in this thread. [] Anyway enough about me and boring work. Have a meeting lined up with a recruitment consultant and have started looking properly now so even though I don't expect anything to happen over night I do feel pleased that at least I am starting to be proactive.

blue i am a bit jealous of your 2 days a week. That sounds ideal. I wouldn't mind doing that now if a suitable opportunity arose but I can't see it happening. It must be such a weird feeling though, the first few times you hand over you precious bebe.

wasabi you haven't been around recently either have you? Little C sounds super coordinated with her excellent spoon skills. G can get it to his mouth but not with any food on it or the right way up or the right way round - and definitely not all three at the same time. still...baby steps innit. Weaning is going ok. I am pleased that I am doing Bella Led WEaning although have ruined two pans with my steaming and tried to feed the poor boy carrots and parsnips that looked more like grated cheese than puree yesterday. I have learned from experience that they do actually eat much more the smoother it is at the moment. Fair enough really! I have also been quite PFB and catch myself giving him an actual banana at the same time as mushy banana and rice (actually Plum organic 4 grain rip off rice, dahlings) and pieces of pear with pureed pears. I am sure that I am just doing it to make myself feel better but since it kind of does i will continue. And actually he does seem to prefer eating from the thing itself. he cranes his head forwards and munches it, or bashes it and therefore is clearly way too immature for hardcore baby led weaning.

I am so head over heels it actually worries me slightly. I find myself thinking I am going to burst. i think it's partly because I feel so lucky to have such a lovely happy baby and also because i know that it is all going to fly by so fast and in no time at all he will have weeping spots and bum fluff. boak. have already commissioned his dad to deal with that when the time comes! Sleep went a bit all over the show again but still within a 8=10 hr window more or less but last night i got my first 12 hour stint! it will have been a one off i'm sure, but it was a great feeling shame i only got 5 hours but that will get better too i'm sure.

irish i am getting very excited for you missy! Sorry about the indigestion though. that is the pits. I found my 2 hour daily commute so bloody knackering. It's the best feeling when you can just stay at home. Your nursery sounds so good. makes feel bad that poor old G is still shacked up in a travel cot. ok well only just even in a travel cot! like blue said i must confess to being a wee bit jealous of you too. it's all such an incredible journey.

anyway the little dude has awoken so I will tend to him and be back on soon. honest guvs. xxx

BellaBalloon · 23/07/2010 15:54

and blue look at you with your regular 12 hours!! bet you feel a kzillion bucks these days what with the gym and everything... xx

wasabipeanut · 24/07/2010 10:04

Gaaaahh sorry I?ve been awol for so long. I seem to be permanently busy or asleep. Or wanting to be asleep. Weeks pass in the blur of housework, children etc. Now Clara is weaning as well I seem to be in the kitchen for half the day. And in the evenings I am catching up on ironing. Rawk and roll or what?

Anyway, what have we been up to? Well Clara has taken to eating solids really well. I am doing a bit of mush and a bit of finger food and my goodness she is a messy lass! Still, she is enjoying it which is the main thing. I am doing veggies for lunch and a bit of fruit for tea although she is 26 weeks on Sunday so we can start introducing dairy and gluten and what have you. I think I?ll leave it until a few more weeks have passed before introducing meat and fish. How I am going to introduce breakfast I have no idea. She can be quite a grumpster in the morning and sleeps for quite a while most days. By the time she wakes it?s nearly time for lunch never mind breakfast. Oh well I?m sure it will sort itself out. She is also sleeping better at night with just one night waking between 7 & 7 where she now graciously accepts a bottle from DH. Yay! I have had a few nights off now which is bliss after months of being up twice a night. She doesn?t take much from a bottle which proves it isn?t really hunger that?s waking her but it is gently getting her out of the habit of waking for a nice, booby cuddle with Mummy. One day she might actually sleep though!
One massive challenge I still have with her is the whole ?independent play? concept. It?s most odd. When I put her in her gym or lay her down anywhere she basically screams as long as I remain in the room. If I put her down on the playroom and shut the door she calms down and play quite happily. It?s so strange. As long as she can see me and I?m not picking her up she goes doolally. It?s probably something to do with object permanence but you would have thought she?d be happier if she could see me? Apparently not. She is rolling now but gets stuck on her tummy and gets cross. This is odd as she started rolling from front to back when I put her on her tummy at 4 months. And yet she appears unable to do it now when she puts herself on her tummy.

Had a bit of drama yesterday. After a lovely afternoon playing Fred was jumping around as I was tidying before bath time and managed to smack his head into a corner wall. Didn?t realise what he?d done at first but heard the thud and the scream and obviously went to give him a big cuddle. When we pulled apart a bit there was blood everywhere. My lovely but far too energetic for his own good little boy had cut his head open. I had to try so hard not to freak out as blood was pouring out of it down his face. Luckily we live near a pretty good minor injuries unit so I slung them both in the car straight away and they kindly glued his head back together. Did a neat job too ? I was very impressed. He seems fine now and is loving telling everyone how a nice nurse put special glue on his head. I get so upset when he hurts himself. I seem to say ?Freddie be careful? about 20 times a day but he never takes any notice.

Well I started this post yesterday but its now Saturday morning. My boys are out shopping, Clara is asleep and I have just baked a batch of lemon cupcakes. We are having several families in our road round for a BBQ later and I wanted to make some cakes for the children. For the children, honest.

Irish Wow you must be 36 weeks by now! So nearly there. The heartburn is a sod isn?t it? I got that a lot with both of mine. The best discovery I made was that you can Zantac while pg. Check it out with a doc if you want reassurance but really, I was so happy when I realised. My heartburn laughed in the face of Rennie and Gaviscon but Zantac sorted it!

I hope you antenatal classes weren?t too scary. I?m not sure what sort of birth you would like but I hope you get the one you want. Huge hugs and happy birthing vibes coming your way. Is your nest finished yet? Your spa trip sounded lovely btw, could rather do with something like that myself!

Jumping Oh lovely I wish I could give you a big cuddle. I think you summed it up perfectly when you describe the ?sheer tedium? of domestic chores. I feel like that a lot. It?s so difficult to kick back and just throw yourself into playing with your dc?s when you know that you will all be buried under a huge pile of crap if you don?t continually clean, tidy, wipe etc. The various bugs that the little darlings catch just make it even more difficult. I?m so sorry to hear that DD1?s lung condition has started to worsen. I don?t know what to say because nothing I write can make it better. I think it?s great that you are focusing on the positives, although burying your hand in the sand as you say you have been doing seems an entirely reasonable response to me. You seem to be a graduate of the ?just grit your teeth and get on with it? school which is very admirable but perhaps sometimes puts just too much on your shoulders. What I?m trying to say, albeit rather clumsily, is that, on this thread anyway, feel free to be sad sometimes. I think you are truly inspiring for the amount that you juggle and if you want to give vent to some negativity then please do so. If your blues turn into something more serious then perhaps it?s time to get some help. PND is bloody miserable. I saw what it did to a friend of mine before she got help and it wasn?t nice. I realise that medication isn?t always the answer (indeed, I think they tend to dish out pills too easily to get rid of people) but sometimes it is the right thing to do. Sometimes, just seeing someone else and having a chat about things helps too.

Only you know if working outside the helping you to stay sane or having the opposite effect. I struggled about 5 or 6 months after DS was born. I don?t think it was PND but it was several months of feeling very low, tearful and generally miserable. I could function perfectly well and it never translated into loss of interest or love for DS but I struggled to manage the process of becoming a mother. My social life and work were very closely intertwined and I felt like my whole identity had disappeared. I missed my friends, my London office lifestyle, my drinks after work, my gossiping at trade shows etc. Above everything I just felt lonely. I went back to work based on how I felt but as you know I realised a few months down the line that it wasn?t right for me. I think it was just my last stab at trying to cling on to the past. I still work sometimes and I made a big effort to catch up with old friends as well as make new ?mummy? friends and moving has forced me to socialise even more to meet people in our new, erm, ?hood, so I gradually found a balance. Still isn?t perfect by any means but it?s about as good as it?s going to get I think!

Lol at your secret Ken Bruce crush!! You know I only discovered 6 music recently when there was all this stuff in the press about it closing down. It?s bloody ace. I can?t cope with radio 1 anymore because I think it?s going to make my brain melt completely and I?m not quite ready for radio 2 (although I do like Dermot & Claudia Winkleman). 6 music sort of bridges the gap for me perfectly and they play music that I listened too in my yoof. I was a bit of an indie kid. Went to 3 gigs a week, wouldn?t think anything of staying up all night. If I knew how little shut eye I?d be getting these days I might have been a bit less cavalier. Actually I rather like Radio 4 as well. How did your wedding go and being away from the little fella?

Bella Glad Bella led weaning is going well. I chucked at some of your comments. BTW, I said Clara could get a spoon to her mouth, I didn?t say the right way round If I put a tiny bit of very thick puree on the end it sticks and she can just suck it off but a more liquid puree would be all over the shop. She was sat on my knee on the edge of Freds sandpit the other day and was pulling leaves off the vine on back wall of the house and putting the leaves in her mouth (I was removing them again) so she can certainly get food to her mouth!

Right, I have wittered for waaaay too long. I must get showered and start prepping for this BBQ. Have a lovely weekend all xxxx

JumpingJellyfish · 27/07/2010 22:44

I'm just sending a quick reply before tackling washing up... have so much to say but not enough time but wanted to say Thank You to you girls for your support Had a real heart to heart with DH as really felt so down past couple of weeks but somehow talking to my lovely man has made me feel so much lighter again. Trying to let go a bit and not get bogged down so much by it all. And working on him to allow me to get a cleaner in...we'll see. The ultimatum from DH was cleaner or dishwasher...of course I want both!!

Ffion still not sleeping much but not feeding quite so much at night. Seems that quite a few people (in RL) think I should stop bfeeding as most probably that would mean more sleep, but I'm really not sure I'm ready for that. Would ideally love to feed her until around a year... Weighing up whether I can keep going with night feeds and whether the resulting tiredness is turning me into a horrid daytime mum for DS & DD2... giving it another week to decide!

Irish are you on maternity leave now? Happy days if you are!!

more personals tomorrow, promise! xxx

irishmumwannabe · 28/07/2010 11:44

Just a quick post whilst in work .... on my last day

Am so tired and glad that this day has finally come. it's going to be so nice not havign to get on a train for an hour each way every day - poor DH is still on that grind though.

Jumping glad to hear you are feeling better. A cleaner is a great idea - free you from some of the more mundane tasks. once you've had a cleaner for a few months you can then tackle the dishwasher issue.

Bella you sound so happy and of course youa re head over heels with your LO. I hope the recruitment consultant meeting is successful.

wasabi sounds like the weaning is going really well for you and Clara . I hope Freddie wasn't too traumatised by his fall. My nephew had a similar incident the other day, slammed his chin off the stairs and had to get glue and stitches in

Anyway betetr head off - have to go for lunch

BellaBalloon · 28/07/2010 19:21

Hello lovelies! Irish congrats on getting to your last day! I really loved the feeling of everyone apart from me going to work and waddling down to the local cafe for a mid morning cappuccino. There is a gorgeous little cafe round the corner from my old house and it is always quite thick with mummies and I used to be so jealous walking by seeing them there all relaxed and with no time pressures. Have you got some nice hangouts round you? Getting out every day will save you from the waiting for contractions twilight madness that can easily overwhelm you.

jumping thanks for popping on to say you feel better. It's good to hear. And brilliant that you have aired things with your man. Agree with irish, you definitely need both a cleaner and a dishwasher OR you could get a cleaner to come every day

blue how was your wedding? Was it good having a night without the bambini? Did you get wasted?

head Dove sei???

All good here - especially since that awful heavy muggy weather broke. ugh. made me feel like someone was sat on my head. Mr G has suddenly totally taken to solids and has just had three massive bfeeds instead of the normal 14 4 or 5. - could it be that at 6 months (he had hishalf birthday on saturday ) he is finally behaving as Sir Gina would have him behave? He is even chucking some long naps into the equation - Alas not quite since he has shaved an hour off the night sleep and won't stay asleep past 6:30 ish anymore. YAWN. Oh and still waking once a night. YAWN. must go to bed early myself one of these days. i am soooooo tired from going to bed late and waking up in anticipation of him. It's so silly. Anyway mustn't complain since i only have the one am not working AND have a dishwasher
wasabi i hope your week isn't too chore filled and that you can get out lots and enjoy the warm weather with F and C. G has been the same with rolling. I think he can actually do it both ways but now decides he can't be arsed to do either unless pushed prompted. hE can however play the guitar and speak french - they all just develop at different rates I guess.

Anyhow enough pointless rambling from moi. Off to stuff my face with pasta and then enjoy a quiet night in all on my own. HEAVEN. Won't even tell you what i'm going to watch on the telly britain's next top model

bluesatinsash · 28/07/2010 20:26

Evening .

I'm just about to diasspear into the kitchen to peel, cook and blend my body weight in fruit and veg along with poaching some fish and making a cheese sauce as we're away tomorrow for long weekend and I was running low on Ben food. DH is currently in Tesco on strict orders to buy a decent freezer bag.

Will be back on later if my fingers can still type after all the peeling (I'm left handed and its bloody tricky as all peelers are for north pawed folk).

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bluesatinsash · 28/07/2010 23:20

Back as promised but now too tired to post anything coherent suffice to say I do not want to look at my potao peeler for a very very long time (16 apples, 6 pears, 3 humungous sweet potatos, two very tricky mangos . Anyway they're all safely tucked up in their ice cube trays in the freezer

Will try a wee catch up but apologies for lack of more...

Irish - welcome to maternity leave . R-E-L-A-X, potter, nest,, potter, watch chick flicks, potter, relax. Not long now! Remind me when is irishgirl due?

Bella - mon amour! Go G and his solids and almost all night sleeping. Have you made wee prints of G's feet and hands as momentos along the way? You are so in love with that wee dude, would love to see a wee piccie of you both but know you like to remain anon. The wedding was fantastic, DH and me had a brilliant day and we both scrubbed up well . We had a great table and sat next to a lovely couple so the stories and jokes and singing and dancing was top notch. Its reassuring to know I can still cut it socially . Left hotel at 2am and staggered into taxi to our hotel. I very wisely stopped rinking after meal so was happliy tipsy the whole night. Did all the actions to 'The Whole of the Moon' by The Waterboys and of course belted out current wedding fave 'Don't Stop Believing' by Journey/cast of Glee .

jumping - glad you and your DH had a good old we're in this together' chat. Hope you get your cleaner and/or dishwasher soon.

wasabi - poor F! You must have all had a right fright . Great to hear C is loving her food. Bennyboy LOVES his food and bangs his wee chubby hand down on his tray in a medievel banqueting table "get me more drumsticks wench" way . What was your best gig would you say from your yoof? I can't claim to have been a big gig goer but did love my music in the 'old' days

Head - you're MIA girl!

Right, better get off to bed although I still have to pack for tomorrow - grr. We're off to Ashton (next to Haydock Park) to stay ith DH's cousin and family until Sunday. Let's just say we have yet to master the art of travelling light with two children .

I've also poppoed a new photo of Ben up on my profile to celbrate his seventh month 'b'day' last Friday. My precious baby is getting big .

Later lovlies x

p.s. I don't suppose any of you are on Facebook? No didn't think so!

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JumpingJellyfish · 31/07/2010 22:25

Back again briefly

Bella that you so much for your post... It was certainly not in any way condescending. How did the appt with the recruitment peeps go? Did you watch that "Big Personality Test" program on tv a month or 2 back...just they had a "case example" of a high flying law firm showing the personality trends of the lawyers there, and seemed indeed that for many the not so pleasant traits resulting in competitiveness etc. were required (erm, have completely forgotten the details) so I can only imagine that it could be and interesting sort of place to try to juggle motherhood....
You do write so beautifully of your little man, so glad you are enjoying this mummy malarky so much Very impressed at his night sleeping too- has he done another 12h stint since you posted? Sometimes I think when they start to sleep more you end up feeling more exhausted than ever as it all sort of catches up on you iyswim

wasabi poor Fred! So glad he's ok, can only imagine how frightened you must have been. We had a phase a few months back where we were in A&E 3 times in a month with DS, all due to little accidents at home and school- boys eh!! Thankfully he seems to have avoided major injuries for a while . Really know what you mean about the transition from a social life based a large part around work colleagues and that of a full time mum. I was kind of lucky that 1.5yrs after DS was born we moved (DH had a new job) which necessitated me leaving my full time job where most of my colleagues were still childless and enjoying busy social lives in the city, and that I could no longer fully (if at all) participate in yet in a way hankered after. So I found new friends (often through mum & toddler groups) in our new town who, as mums, could only socialise at a similar level to me, and it did in a big way make me feel better. Then I went back to work for a different uni part-time with a new set of colleagues- thankfully more of them have kids and the whole place, not being in a city, is less socially active (for better or worse) and so I don't feel quite so, well, different for not being able to socialise all that much...although I have made a few good friends there now and I value the non child-related conversations too!
Am with you on the love of Radio 6 (and R4 & 3 in my case) I was a big music lover and miss it, R6 reminds me of those days! Hard at times not to get nostalgic, but realise now life is full of phases and in spite of sometimes wondering if I've completely lost my sense of identity since having children I know those things still lurk under that chaos of raising small people and may one day get an airing again. Am even wondering about Womad next year, for the 5 of us

Blue am so glad you had such a fab time at the wedding Am a tiny bit as can't imagine yet roping anyone in to look after our 3 (2 was a different matter, but 3 is just too many- feel that myself too at times!!) to do something without them for more than a couple of hours... But know in time they'll be older and we might get the odd weekend away if I can bribe the grandparents Good to hear too you can still cut it socially - totally know what you mean! I do fear I have completely lost the art of conversation since the DCs...but actually had a great time similarly at a friends wedding back in Oct before F was born and it is reassuring. I was always quite shy / self conscious except amongst close friends and in a way I have become more outgoing since the DCs as feel I have less to prove...completely counterintuitive
Impressed with the puree making too lady! I admit to only making a few basic recipes all week and then F eats the same thing most days with just the odd thing added to it (like a spoonful of houmous, or greek yog, or flaked fish). Going to do an online shop and get back to making a bit more next week as we have visitors staying the following week. Am still doing a combination of BLW and purees, but do find at times it's hard to get enough good foods for BLW available for F... though am impressed at what she can manage to gum now.

Irish welcome to Maternity Leave! Hope work gave you a good send off? Bet you won't miss the commute at all. Really hope you get a few calm weeks now before the birth!

Anyone heard from Head? Hope all is well in Fairy camp?

Right, must get back to the List of Chores. F is very nearly on the move (not sure yet if bum shuffling or crawling will be the mode of transport) so we're sorting through all the toys to ensure she can't get into inappropriately small things like lego... She is beginning to sleep a bit better (2 night feeds still) and I have decided to keep bfing for evening/night feeds and bottles during the day (she only takes 7oz in morn and 3-4oz max in afternoon, if at all) as finding I have just about enough energy to keep going...But she still doesn't settle until around 9pm most eves which is kinda late and I know if she had a bottle then she's probably conk out a bit earlier...
She's so full of babbling and odd noises at the mo it's very cute.

OK, must go! Love to all xxx

HeadFairy · 31/07/2010 22:28

I'm not really MIA, just really really bad at getting online

I promise I will come back and catch up on your news. Having no childcare any more I never seem to have time. dh gets all huffy if I sit on the laptop all night, and I used to mnet during dd's naps when ds was at the childminders, but sadly I don't have those lovely free days any more. I will will will find some time I promise.

Francesca has just woken up so I'm going to have to dash now...

xx

HeadFairy · 31/07/2010 22:57

Ok, I'm bfing Francesca and typing with one hand so forgive the odd typo...

blue awwww, Ben is so cute, what a smiley face! I love his christening robes too. They are pretty impressive! I'm on facebook... you wanna be my friend, does that make me sound desperate? I'm impressed at all the cooking and food prepping going on. I hope the little man appreciates it!

Irish I can't believe it's almost time for your baby to make an appearance!!! Enjoy your maternity leave, you must be getting pretty tired by now. I hope you're getting some lovely weather to chill out in.

jumping sorry to hear you've been having such a rough time of things, glad to hear you've had such a good chat with your dh. You are being heroic with the feeding. I hope you manage to get some rest. Francesca often doesn't go to bed until after 9 too, I'm hoping that as she gets older and gets on the move more she'll need to go to bed earlier, but some days she's just not tired at 7pm and I don't think there's any point in banging my head against a brick wall trying to get her to go to sleep when she's not tired. She sits quite happily in her bouncy chair while dh and I have dinner.

wasabi I hope Freddie's head is feeling better, how frightening for you. It's always a shock to see lots of blood when something like that happens! I'm impressed at your cupcake prowess, that's one thing I cannot do, can't bake for toffee, all cakes end up with a distinct biscuit like quality.

Bella Your Italian is better than mine I'm pretty plastic too, but I'm hanging on to my Italian roots with my fingernails. Not going to let go of the only interesting thing about me. Glad to hear your weaning is going well. Francesca is doing really well too, she's doing half mush half finger food too. She loves toast, cucumber, carrots, thin slices of cheese. Although I'm not being as efficient as I was last time preparing little cubes of vegetables, I'm trying to prepare a few meals in advance for her so I can whip out a chicken casserole at a moment's notice.

Francesca's christening was really lovely, our lovely Irish priest was hilarious, he's so funny and entertaining and made it really special. Afterwards we had everyone back to ours, which is the most number of people we've entertained at our house since we moved in (we had 38 adults and 12 children). My mum made a massive piece montee... a big stack of choux buns held together with spun sugar. It was really beautiful and absolutely delicious. I'm afraid I was really lazy about the rest of the food as we ordered it all from M&S but my domestic godessery only extends so far!

My mother in law has gone home now, it was really nice to have her here, but it's great to have the house to ourselves too. Francesca loved having her here, she finally got lots of attention, poor love spends most of her time on the floor with ds bumping her around. I think she's going to learn to crawl just so she can get out of his way! She's showing signs of trying to get up on her knees so maybe that'll be quite soon.

The other big thing that's happened recently is that I had a big birthday on Thursday... I turned f-f-f-f-f-f-forty I spent the day at a spa on Thurday itself which was lovely. It's been too long since I've taken care of myself so it was nice to be buffed and polished. Last night dh and I went for a super posh meal and my mum and dad had both babies all night, my first night in 7 months without being woken up. Of course I woke up at 7.30 anyway, and my boobs were absolutely massive so I had to get up and pump before they exploded so no lie in for me, but it was still really nice to have a quiet house, plus I got to have a nice long bath this morning too!

Blimey, I've prattled on, it must be the senile dementia setting in I hope you're all well, I promise I'll try not to leave it so long next time.

xx

wasabipeanut · 05/08/2010 20:36

Hi everyone, I have a night to myself as DH is at his annual company rounders match! You know sometimes I am so glad I don?t have to pretend to like all that corporate shit anymore . The little darlings are snoozing away and for once I don?t have a mountain of ironing to do.

I?ve been busy entertaining and actually having (whisper it) a little bit of a life lately. We had the neighbours BBQ the other Saturday which went really well and has already been reciprocated with some coffee dates here and there so that?s all good. We also had friends over last Saturday ? they?re first is 3 months old and they stayed over and we all stayed up much later than we should have done drinking which was lovely actually. I got to bed at 3.30am after Clara?s night feed (bottle just in case you were wondering!) and was up again just after 6. We were all absolutely hanging on Sunday but it was worth it just to feel a little irresponsible. We?re off to DH?s parents, via a christening, for a week on Sunday. Don?t knock it ? we have free and willing childcare on tap and they live close to the coast. Admittedly it wouldn?t be my first choice but it?s a change of scene and we haven?t got loads of cash for holidays as we?ve spent it all on sorting out the house ? not that that particular process is in any way complete. DH and are I having our first night away since Clara was born at a lovely hotel we know in one of my favourite little Norfolk villages. Lots of antique shops and that sort of thing.

The children are both well ? no major head injuries this week. They seem to be having simultaneous growth spurts ? I noticed this week that all of a sudden all of Freddie?s trousers had turned into ankle swingers. I have an irrational loathing of too short trousers on men so I?m afraid I had to go shopping immediately. Clara is also busting out of all her 3-6 month gear. Her head shape and everything seems to be changing massively, and so quickly that even I am noticing. Last week she was my little flippy floppy new born. Now she?s a lovely, round, giggly, chubster. She is weighing in at 16ibs 3 which is somewhere between 40 and 50th centile so all is well there. I?ve started giving her chicken which went well and she had her first rice pudding for tea ? which also didn?t touch the sides. I amazed at how quickly I?ve had to ramp the feeding up ? she only started about 3 weeks ago but seems to want more and more. She?s also doing well on the finger foods and impressed my NCT friends with her independent banana munching ability last Friday! She seems to be happier these days. Maybe it?s increasing quantities of solid food, maybe she?s just happier now she can roll around more and grab stuff. I have no idea but she?s definitely getting better at the whole independent play thing.

Unfortunately the, ?sleep through the night? thing is still eluding her. We are still waking at 11ish and 4ish give or take an hour here and there. At least now she?s taking a bottle so DH gives her the first feed. When she wakes at 4 I always think ?you cannot be hungry? but she takes a reasonable breast feed and then goes straight back off until around 7. I know you are meant to increase day time calories but really, I?m not sure how much more I could give her during the day. She still breast feeds during the day ? it?s just the bedtime and late feed that she has a bottle. Not sure of that has anything to do with it. I?m starting to think she?s just programmed to wake at that time and that whatever milk she is taking has precious little to do with it.
Irish I?m sure you are enjoying your lovely maternity leave. I just LOVED that time when pg with Freddie. I would waddle walk down to the coffee shop every day and then bimble round Mothercare, cook vast amounts of food for the freezer and generally nest like a crazy mother hen. Enjoy this special time

Bella How is G?s guitar playing going? You do make me chuckle. What?s the latest with work? Going back or doing something different? Has G become a Gina baby?? Freddie became a Gina baby at precisely one year

Blue You are giving Annabel Karmel a run for her money! And all as a left hander in a world of right handed peelers. You are one dedicated Mummy. I must admit I do like that feeling of packing away lots of little cubes in the freezer. I am a little more haphazard this time than I was first time round but I still like to have a stash of veg which I can mix and match to suit madams mood! It?s obviously working if Ben?s tray banging is any indication Glad you had a lovely time at the wedding. I know what you mean about being reassured that you can still cut it socially. When our friends came over at the weekend I was totally convinced I?d be snoring into my dinner by 10. Nobody was more amazed than me to find me chattering away at 3. Oh yes, and I have been giving great thought to my ?best gig.? I am such a saddo. I think Reading Festival 1990 is up there ? Inspiral Carpets and The Pixies headlined Sat and Sun ? fabulous.Or maybe The Leveller at Glastonbury in 1992 ( I think). Faith No More also played the Saturday and were fab. However, I remember seeing Carter USM at Reading University which was also a stonker. Also My Bloody Valentine at the same venue when I couldn?t hear for 48 hours afterwards. Just too many to decide. I took DH to Reading festival the year we got together. He hated it. Spent the whole time sitting in the comedy tent looking pained while I went to see people like Frank Black. It just isn?t his thing ? he?s more a Gardeners World kind of guy. Lovely though. He tolerates me playing my old records and CD?s and trying to teach Freddie the words to various probably quite inappropriate songs.

Oh yes and I am on Facebook. Shall we be brave and break the anonymity and be friends?

Jumping Much respect to you for considering Womad en famille. I think DH would go a bit pale if I suggested similar! I?m so glad you had a good heart to heart with DH and I hope by now you?ve got a cleaner and a dishwasher. I think DH and I would probably be heading for the divorce courts if we didn?t have a dishwasher. Ditto the tumble drier which I persuaded him to spring for before Xmas. Now we have the new house and more space it was feasible for the first time. Given that Clara was due in mid winter it didn?t seem unreasonable. I still see it as an absolute godsend. Domestic gadgets aside it?s good to know that a good talk has lightened the load a bit for you. FWIW I#m not convinced that quitting bfing will magically make F sleep though. It might of course but it giving Clara bottles at bedtime has made precisely bugger all difference.

Head Congratulations on the big birthday! If it?s any consolation I am approaching 35 from the wrong direction so really not far behind you. Good for you for having a nice pamper. Looking after ourselves comes very far down the priority list doesn?t it? Also glad that Francesca?s christening was such a great day. Your mum sounds like one impressive baker! My cupcakes feel rather wimpy by comparison. Having said that, Fred and I made a courgette cake today (way nicer than it sounds ? kind of like carrot cake but with lime curd and lime/cream cheese icing) and I was very pleased with it. I love baking but I have to stop as I can feel I?m putting on weight. There is something about turning out a lovely cake that makes you feel fab. BTW, it took me a lot of practice to get good. MY DH remembers my first laughable attempt at a birthday cake about 8 years ago and believe me it was pitiful. Still, we have a glut of courgettes and they must be used ? this is my excuse and I?m sticking to it.

Speaking of which I may go and have a piece of said cake now. Have a fab night everyone xx

bluesatinsash · 06/08/2010 11:08

Hi everyone,

Its been a busy week! The weekend away has knocked my household shores to pot so have spent all week catching up with ironing, cooking MORE food (this time for Isaac) and - Shock - going ot the gym Grin. I am such a product of my Prestbeterian Church of Scotland upbrining (chores done first then you can play) So tonight = wine/carry out/The Wire on box set - heaven Smile

Ben is napping and Isaac's at nursery but may have to finish this post tonight so will type whilst the iron is hot so to speak Smile. Mixing my metaphors there I think Hmm

OK, out of the shadows of anonymity and on a facebook page near you... I'm j a n i n e m c g r e g o r and my piccie is of me and two boys. See you on the other side!

Belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY Head Grin. 40 is so the new thirty so don't sweat it and I'll be joining you in @ 10 months - eek! Glad you had a lovely pamper day and posh meal out with your DH Smile, Your Mum's montee sounded delicious and your Irish priest sounded lovely Smile. Glad little Frankie had a lovely day and your house did you proud accomodating all those people!

wasabi - you have some seriously leftfield but cool taste in music Smile. You would have gotten on well with an old boyfriend of mine. He was a HUGE Pixies fan and Teenage Fanclub, Half man, half biscuit, was at first Stone Roses gig etc. What he was doing with a Wham fan (me) Blush I'll never know Grin. He did get me into some music I would never have gone near (The Smiths/Stone Roses/Jewel/Matchbox 60..) but still think the Pixies are a little too full on for my taste. I would be with your DH in the comedy tent Grin.

Great to hear you've had some adult only fun and chats and staying up lates Smile. I do feel there is a little watershed when baby gets to 6 months.. It just gets easier and you can start to peel back the layers of early mummyhood fug and post-pregnancy malaise and start to remember there are other things ot enjoy in life! Of course that's when we sometimes think "oh, that wasn't so bad..." and broodiness can kick in.. I have had moments but having the experience of looking after two I know Ben's quality of life would just be so imparied if I had another as don't have luxury of waiting to have the same age gap as Isaac and him and there is just no way I could have the same freedom to devote to new baby if Ben was only 18 months or even less. I just want him to have the best quality time available and the reasons for me having broody moments is probably my hormones having one last go at persuading me and my wishing to have a DD.. TOTALLY selfish!

If DH saw this written down he would bring forward his appointment with the snip doctor Grin.

I used to have moments as a child as I have two big sisters, I used to wonder what a brother would have been like etc.. My Mum was the same, she always wondered what having a boy would have been like for her and the dynamics (I was to have been that boy - nae luck!).

I don't really have a point, just some existential belly button gazing. Suffice to say, it won't be happening and I am blessed with my lot Smile.

jumping - how are things this week? How's F's sleeping? Any progress on the dishwasher front?

Gah! Ben has woken up, will finish off post tonight x

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bluesatinsash · 06/08/2010 20:14

Evening and happy wine o'clock.

Back to finish post..

Irish - what have you bene up to in your first week of pre-baby mat. leave? I second wasabi in remembering how special a time it was. All the bursting with anticipation, sniffing the newly washed babygrows, sitting in the nursery, reading, lazing, pottering - bliss!

Bella - are you having a bust old time again? What's G bene eating this week? How's the house search/job search conundrum?

Both boys were asleep by 7.45pm tonight Smile. There's acheeky vin du rouge waiting for me downstairs. Happy days x

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irishmumwannabe · 06/08/2010 21:26

Hello ladies,

Blue you have a friend request. Smile For everyone else I'm Carmel Hill and have a pic of me with bump on profile -in purple maxi dress. OH and any photos that you see of me my sisters and I tend to have a bit of a session when we go out. Grin

Sounds like you have a lot of peeling/cooking going on. I am thankful that I am right handed most days Hope the wine is going down well tonight after your mad week. You are so good going to the gym with everything else that goes on.

wasabi glad you are having your late nights - I used to laugh at my sisters when they were hanging and having to look after their LOs. How the mighty have fallen Grin Enjoy your little holidays. I quite like the Pixies too - although mainly through my older sisters. I like a lot of things but mainly am a product of the nineties - Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, Everclear, Live. Oh the angst. Grin

Head happy belated birthday - hope you had a fab time. Your Mum's montee sounds delicious - I think I'll also be having a christening along the lines of yours - what with my family and the various outlaws that come with them. Hopefully the funny Irish priest as well - might get the priest who married DH and I which would be quite cool.

Jumping hope things have calmed down? Did you decide between the dishwasher or cleaner?

Bella any more activity on the house / job front? You are more of an oracle than me on the whole baby thing so any advice is welcome. Smile

So I have 2 more weeks from tomorrow - 21st August is my official date but I'll not be holding my breath. I hve spent this week reading, going to lunch with my sister (who was made redundant at the beginning of the summer but who is now setting up as a holistic therapist so has a bit of free time), cleaning my house non stop, various doc and hospital visit. Have also been testing out the glider chair - soo comfy.

Had a bit of a scare becaude had leukocytes in my wee but have had swabs done and will get results on Tuesday. Needless to say I'm not feeling like I've got an infection but we'll see what the tests come back with.

We are finally going to finish off the nursery tomorrow - hang curtains, wall clock, paint skirting, put up the big cot.

I am also planning on getting some leather to re - upholster the dining room chairs. I've found I'm not the best person at resting or relaxing. I'm a VIP (very impatient person) Grin

Anyway I'll go now, have had lovely DH feeding me tonight and am going to watch some TV and do more relaxing

Talk to you all later - or see you on FB

BellaBalloon · 08/08/2010 19:17

ooo ooo ooo I love it when there is loads to catch up on!

I have been busy - been wake boarding, to chessington world of adventures and the isle of wight in the last week. Confused need an early night.

am sat here in a towel after a bath with G and he just fell asleep on the boob as i was reading your posts so no wasabi NOT a gina baby and also since we've been away he's been waking at 4:30 again and being on and off the boob all day to keep him happy in the car. oh and eating loads of pouches cos i ran out of mammas home cooking so all in all i have now found myself back at number two on the board having slid all the way down the long snake will haul my sorry arse back up again though. can't keep me down in my efforts to become a proper mummy Grin

ayeayaye where to start - i want to deal with everything but alas have DP to feed now.

i shall return to write back in full - possibly not tonight or tomorrow as still running all over the show - but soon.

FAB posts ladies - will have to reread them properly too as only just had a skim read

JumpingJellyfish · 09/08/2010 13:35

skim reading like bella here- what a lovely set of posts! You all make my heart sing with the glories of mummyhood!

Been a bit of a mad week here too, not so much in the out and about stakes but in the visitors and usual running about- and a night out for DH & me on Sat too which was just fab :)

I have quit b'feeding. I am deeply, horridly sad about it :( :( as I feel I have given up for all the wrong reasons and am very torn generally. But Ffion has an AWFUL run of nights, snacking constantly but not feeding well in day, not doing great with solids either and then refused any bottles at childminders. I think bless her she just wants boobies alone and I just can't offer her that 'cos I have to work. So decided it was only fair to wean her off me completely- so last feed was bedtime on Thurs. I have cried every evening since but bless her she's been doing really well on the bottles, nights have become more predictable and getting a bit more sleep too. Boobs on the other hand are agony! Been expressing twice a day and the amount is dropping quite quickly but it makes me realise quite how much she was taking each night. This just wasn't how I wanted to finish my b'feeding career but sometimes that's life..especially with kids it seems- best laid plans and all that! I'm very sad as know I'll never b'feed again and I so love it, but hey, am trying to focus on the positives (and start curbing my appetite too!). Just hope in the future F doesn't feel I treated her differently as b'fed DD1 until nearly 13 months... But they are very different babies and I wasn't working as many hours when DD1 was this little.

Blue how long did it take your boobs to stop being so engorged? Did you get a hormone slump after you stopped or am I imagining things?!

OK will respond properly to you all at a later stage, work has got hectic so must go! Have DH's brother, gf and LO arriving thurs and staying a week so lots to keep us busy as ever!

Lovely to see you back Head BTW! Congrats on the big b'day too :)
And Irish hope your tests come back ok, and you can carry on chilling (hmm, not sure you're doing that much chilling)!
Happy hols wasabi your plans sound just lovely
and big wave to bella xxxx

PS. I'm on FB but having security dilemma...went off for a month but back on as so weak willed so if I stay on will send friend requests!

JumpingJellyfish · 09/08/2010 13:39

PS. still no dishwasher or cleaner [grr] DH worried about money again so he wants me to wait a month. We'll get one eventually!

bluesatinsash · 09/08/2010 21:19

Hey jumping and Bella, won't clog up thread to allow you to catch up Wink bt wanted to give jumping a not-too-near-watch-my-boobs hug.

Please don't feel for one second you have let Ffion down by giving up. She needs you for cuddles and fun and hair strokes and tickles. You have given her the best start ever nutritionally and emotionally and have done it this long - well done you.

I hope once the hormones even out and your boobs go back to normal (if they ever do!)you will take positives about giving up and the increased energy that goes with it.

I approached it from a totally different place to you as I had just had enough of Ben's bottle refusal and three after midnight feeds. If you remember I had gastroenteritus the weekend before I gave up and thought my milk had dried up anyway.. Ben took the bottle on the Tuesday and I got engorged all over again as my mlik supply started up as my appetite and strength returned. I had 5 days of engorgement but wasn't too sore. I leaked for 2 weeks then they finally gave up and went home.

TBH hormonally I just felt relief as I was heading to PND if I'd kept it up. The first night on Aptimal, Ben went from 3 nightly feeds to 1.

Please try and not feel guilty, you did a stellar job and I take my hat off to you for managing to feed F so this long whilst holding down a job and raising two other DC's not to mention your DH!

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HeadFairy · 09/08/2010 21:32

oooh, now we're outing ourselves on facebook I'm not even bothering to read what you've all been up to, I'm off to snoop :o:o:o

See you on FB... I'm G i s e l e

N i c o l o t t i M a r c o z (I'm betting I'm the only one on there with that name!)

xx

ps, I will be back soon to post, but can't resist a good old snoop :o

HeadFairy · 09/08/2010 22:16

Ok, Irish and Blue you've got some friend requests... dammit accept them so I can get down to some proper snooping :o

Jumping big (((((((((hugs))))))))) to help you get through those horrible first few nights of no more bfing. You have done an amazing thing, you have done what 99% of the population haven't (for whatever reasons) and you have given Ffion the most amazing start in life. Don't beat yourself up. I cried and cried when Luca gave up feeding, just keep telling yourself it's the hormones talking. Kind of like the booze talking only a tenth of the fun.

Seriously though, I hope you're feeling happier. Always remember happy mummy = happy baby, and there's no way Ffion will know either way how long you fed her for. My mum didn't bf my sister at all, but bf me for four months. I has made zilch difference I think. In fact I think my sister and my mum are even closer than I am to her (if that's possible :))

Blimey bella Calm down girl! :o:o Wake boarding, Chessington, and IoW... you'll be doing Everest next :o I'm starting to slide on the whole food prep now... God I was so text book with Luca, little cubes I mixed and matched to suit my mood. Francesca is lucky to get what Luca gets these days. I tried her on some pasta bolognaise the other day and she loved it. She had chicken curry and rice for tea tonight :o Boy she's got terrible garlic poos though - bleurgh!

Irish I hope you enjoy finishing off the nursery. You are so organised, we didn't finish Luca's off until he was about four months old Blush. Enjoy your glider chair. My mum and dad bought me one the first Christmas after Luca was born, God it's fab. I used to fall asleep in it doing his bedtime feed. It's just the perfect shape for bfing. Arms at just the right height, nice high back to rest your head against. I used to take one of those neck cushions to support my head so I didn't loll too much!

I hope your test results are negative tomorrow....

Blue I hope you're up on your chores... don't even start on the whole broody thing. God it's awful, Francesca is still waking up twice a night (not that she gets much attention from me, a prod and a shhhhhh is all :o) but I'm already thinking oooooh, another baby would be lovely. I seriously think dh would leave me. We have have have have to sort out some contraception. I can't face anything hormonal, reeeeallly don't want a coil as I've never had a vaginal birth and apparently it's mega painful if you haven't given birth, and dh hates condoms. He might have to have the snip too, cos the way I'm starting to think, I'll be up the duff and trying to find a divorce lawyer Shock. Very silly because even more than you age is now really a big issue for me. Damn those hormones, they're responsible for so much!

Wasabi Blimey, you're brave. Even with the promise of a childfree morning a late night for me is just about midnight. Glad you enjoyed your night out. There are times when I think about the big nights out I used to have and the even bigger hangovers and shudder. I really don't think I could do a hangover any more. Pathetic I know. I hope you enjoyed your weekend away. Dh and I have had a couple of child free days now (it's dh's birthday today, we went fantasy shopping on Bond street, had a proper undisturbed lunch and then did some real shopping) and it's such a treat, but of course we always spend the whole time talking about the children and buying them things instead of things for ourselves!

Righty - I'm going to have to go and feed Francesca, I've had half a bottle of fizz this evening so that should be kicking in nicely now so hopefully she'll sleep properly. Last night she managed to turn her musical mobile on at 3am by bumping her head against it. Note to self: move that blooming mobile out of her reach :o

Nighty night all xx