October 08 - The Second Year

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10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz
3rd Oct (Due 26th Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - Rebecca Jill Erzsebet - 8lbs 10.5oz
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz
9th Oct (Due 17th) - Marthasmama - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz
28th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - RachieW - Boy - Jack - 7lbs 4oz
31st Oct (Due 20th Oct) - KnickersOnMaHead - Boy - Samuel Paul - 9lbs 11oz
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz

CSWS, how easy is it to carry on feeding two Dc and be pregnant. I thought that pregnancy changes breast milk and for some Dc it is a signal to wean off? As I know nothing at all about it then I am probably way off. Are you planning on weaning DD soon? Not that I think you should.
I have been a breast feeding free zone for 4 days now. W doesnt seem to care. My breasts also dont seem to have noticed either. W has been sleeping much better and also much later. Yipee a silver lining.

Happy Birthday to DD1 ronshar. That labour and the end of it sounds scary and much like my own. Only they waited to induce when I wasn't dilating more until I got my much screamed for epidural . And good for W sleeping better

My breasts stopped producing milk about a week after Q stopped feeding. But I never got that saggy look that people always talk about. I was scared - SO scared that I was going to have limp unrecognizable breasts, but thank god, they look the same as they did before!

I agree about cot sleeping - so much more relaxing. Q came in with us at about 1am last night and I could not sleep with him there because I was worried about him suffocating in the pillows. He would have slept later, but DH got up to use the toilet at 4.40 and woke him right up! I could have killed him.

csws sorry to hear about unsettled D. Would you consider supplementing your milk with some oat milk or cow's milk? So he could still bf but also get some other milk from a cup if your supply is diminishing a bit? I may be out of line... just a suggestion from a non experienced bfer.

It's American Thanksgiving today Going to try to make a feast for us at home and be thankful. I've got a nut roast instead of a turkey... but all the other fixings
If we had some space, I'd invite you all over!

Happy Thanksgiving Star! Are you back to school tomorrow?

Ronshar, I just reread my last post and it sounded more flippant than I meant it to. It's definitely no surprise you waiting so long to have the next one.

How did it go in the cot last night Pistachio?

LOL aubergenie. We're in school today. The school is "international" although many many many americans and lots of american curriculum... I have 10 out of 16 kids here today. Not bad
I'm making the feast when I get home from school for dinner tonight. Not quite the same as a relaxing day to eat and be thankful... but we'll do it in a few hours

Not out of line star, but he can't have cows' milk as allergic, and he refuses or spits out oat milk (can't blame him really - I wouldn't drink it on its own!). I'm really not sure if that is the problem though or not. I certainly have plenty of milk in the morning and during the day, so it might not be. Am just clutching at straws.
But yes Aubergenie, it's a pregnancy related thing. A lot of children wean when their mother is pregnant as the milk dries up quite a lot, although not normally until 2nd or 3rd trimester iirc.
Ronshar - am hoping to stop dd after her 4th birthday in Feb if she doesn't give up of her own accord before then. There's technically no reason why I couldn't feed 3 at once, but wouldn't particularly choose to. I'm taking a calcium supplement now (when I remember ) due to feeding 2, being pregnant and not eating dairy.

Hugs to you ronshar for stopping bf without W noticing. Are your hormones a bit higgledy piggledy at the moment?

I wanted to come on and sob at 1am, but didn't want to do that without replying some. We had a terrible night.

Off to toddler group then straight on to a friends for lunch today so will be out until after school pick up. Could be nice but will prob spend most of afternoon biting my lip. Will explain why on fb this evening just in case ).

oh... duh forgot about df... how could I?? Have you tried rice milk? I think oatmilk is soooo yummy! They have rice milk with added calcium, too. Maybe he'll take to one of them if there isn't as much milk available from you?

got cut off
Sorry about rubbish night csws I hope your day goes ok and that D is in better spirits.

ronshar did you do don't offer/don't refuse? Or something else?

Feeling better today, myjob?

csws you'd think that your body would either just shut down and not move by now or just have adapted to a few odd hours of sleep here and there per 24 hour period I know you're tired and it's nothing to joke about! But seriously!! When was the last time you actually slept several hours (more than 5) in a row? I hope dc3 is a heavenly sound sleeper who goes 3 hours between feeds and sleeps through the night from day 1.

Yay pistachio for DS sleeping half in his own cot that is so funny! I was laughing about that when I read it. How sweet! You should definitely take a photo of that and post in on fb. Then in a few days/weeks/months, take another of him in his cot fully, or progressed over a bit. You could put one of him alone on the bed before those. So you will have documented the progress to the cot Not sure why this is amusing me so and occupying my mind at the moment!!

CSWS- You must be soooo knackered. I remember how exhausted I was in the first trimester and that was without all the sleepless nights and having 2 LOs to look after.

Star - that sounds like a lovely small class today. I love that week before Christmas/summer holidays as lots of the children travel back to their families' home countries (we're an unofficial "international" school ) and our classes are much smaller. It's so lovely to be able to have some downtime and have a chance to properly chat to the children.

Pistachio - Congrats on all night (mostly) in the cot!

speaking of still making milk, my breasts are all normal and everything but ... TMI alert ... my left nipple still has a cut on it - not an open wound, more like a scar, I think. It doesn't hurt, just annoyed that it's still there. It slightly stung throughout the whole of bf, but was nothing major at all near the end. is it possible it is scarred? ew!

Star - rice milk is no longer recommended for children under 5 according to my dietician so we've had to move M solely to oatmilk too. Luckily he likes it as long as its cold.

CSWS - are you sure about the amount of milk? I thought it was 1/2 a pint once they reached a year, though it should be full-fat until age two.

Got to go, we've all got horrible colds and dd is playing up at bedtime.

Hee hee! I've just read it's 2/3 of a pint of cow's milk a day! Oh well.

I will catch up tonight, I have been useless lately.

CSWS - I really feel for you. M has been a bit of pickle at night lately and it is really taking it's toll on me. I can't imagine what it must be like pregnant!

M has proved me to be a liar today. She has eaten an adult size bowl of porridge for breakfast & a handful of grapes, for lunch she had 6 prawns & about half a sweet potato, a humzinger, a corn thin, two small bowls of sea bass risotto and a banana! She just hasn't stopped eating all day!

lol 50ft they like to prove us wrong, don't they?

haha about the differing amounts of milk. Honestly I don't think it matters really. As long as they are getting some. They obviously don't need loads of milk now.

I agree. It's the stuff that's in milk that they need and they get those nutrients elsewhere, don't they?

Ah well, somewhere between half a pint and a pint then .

Had nice day but am utterly exhausted now, so going to watch one episode of house and then go to bed, as have busy day tomorrow with both kids.

And MN had better be sorted by morning. I HATE threads I'm on at the moment!

I always thought that the full fat milk thing was just about calories, but just read that it's vitamin A too. Is that one of the fat soluble vitamins, so it's sort of related?

I visited a nursery today to possibly send Q a few mornings a week. I think my standards of cleanliness are just way too high. I felt like I was going to cry when I walked out of there after seeing where they sleep, eat, play... wtf is wrong with me?

yes me too csws

I think cow's milk is a bizarre thing for humans to consume! M can't have it at the moment anyway so she's on Oatley. Which she hates!

Star - I forgot to mention..... my right nip looks a bit "chewed" from where it cracked really badly with ds. It has stayed that way and I think it will forever more! Think of it as a badge of honour for all that pain you went through with the multiple bouts of thrush and mastitis!

Myjob - Glad you're feeling better today.

CSWS - I hope you're in bed young lady!

Pistachio - Hurrah for a better night. How often are you feeding T in the night now?

Ronshar - Glad that the stopping breastfeeding has been painless for both of you. I honestly can't imagine M ever giving up. Certainly not without a fight! Oh well, one day she'll stop bfing and then, just maybe, she'll start sleeping through the night!