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March 2009 - The crawling / walking / talking race is on . . .

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jollyjoanne · 27/09/2009 15:05

the new thread for March 09 mummies

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Missmodular · 11/11/2009 09:52

Hey all, good to hear from everyone. Hope all the baby bugs are clearing up. We've just had the worst few nights of sleep - M is fine during the day and then the moment I put her down to sleep she seem to develop the worst nasal congestion ever and is up every two hours or so needing her nose wiped! Monday evening I made the mistake of letting her nap in the buggy at 5.30pm which resulted in her being up and ready to play at 3.30am

She's with the nanny today so I can get a bit of work done but I keep hearing her crying downstairs and wanting to go down and cuddle her . Seems like separation anxiety has set in good and proper.

Anyone out there still bfing? I'm kind of wanting to stop soon, but M is really not into the bottle. Would I be better off just going straight to a sippy?

laumiere · 11/11/2009 15:07

And to prove my point had DS1 weighed and measured yesterday, at 3.5yo he's 103cm tall and 18 kg! (3ft 4 and 2.8 st to non-metric people). Unsurprisingly he's one of the tallest at nursery.

Gabriel is now 7 kg (1.7st) so at 5ft 2 and 62 kg I think I'm going to struggle in the future!

kanga5 · 12/11/2009 14:38

hello everyone we're back safe and sound...

had a look through the posts and seems lots of you have been ill...sleeping poorly, etc, here's hoping it blows over quickly.

mismod i am still BF, (it was the right thing to do while we were away, but i have bought a tin of formula so my intention is to stop SOON..) and yes i would try the sippy cup with her. Our LO has been getting used to it since 5 months or so, and i now use the soft white spouts with the avent bottles. She doesn't seem too worried about it. I am glad to have got past the teats stage TBH.

well Australia was great though VERY expensive! It was good to get away from all the chores for a couple of weeks, did me a world of good. Now back to domestic bliss, er, mountains of washing that won't dry!!!

will try to get a pic up soon.

xx

kanga5 · 12/11/2009 14:45

picture added...

school run beckons...
xx

Missmodular · 12/11/2009 16:16

Kanga - quick question - how much does your lo drink with a sippy? I remember getting to this stage bfing DD1 (who also wouldn't take a bottle at first) but she never drank enough formula from a sippy so we ended up doing the whole bottle thing anyway as it was the only surefire way of getting more than an ounce or two down her (not to mention getting her drowsy at bedtimes).

Can't believe you went to Oz with five children! You are a supermum

kanga5 · 12/11/2009 16:50

mismod- not much at all, as she is still just practising!

she has water as required, just a couple of ozs a day, if that. Formula is hit and miss at the moment, i only offer her a couple of ozs and will hopefully increase it as she goes off BF.

Having said that, dd1 never liked formula, i stopped BF her at 16 months, she doesn't drink milk at all, but she gets her calcium needs from cheese, yoghurts and milk on cereal. can you talk to your HV if you are worried?

ps not a supermum, am about to shriek at ds3 for bad behaviour!!!

Missmodular · 12/11/2009 17:45

Thanks Kanga - and gorgeous pic. Glad you had good weather. I went to Australia a few years ago in November and it bucketed down most of the time (we were in Melbourne tho )

jollyjoanne · 12/11/2009 20:30

Sorry not been on for a while our computer broke, someone managed to pull the wire to the plu just once too many times and we had to wait for a new one to get delivered.

Sorry to hear everyone seems to have been poorly. We seemed to have escaped so far - but it is bound to change.

Felt like rubbish the day after the horse riding everywhere seemed to ache! I had forgotten how much work horse riding actually involved.

Kanga love the photo of all the kids, and it looks lovely in Oz. I am very jealous.

MissMod I still BF Mae in the morning and the evening, it is so much easier than preparing more bottles.

Boobz really sorry to hear about your mum, I hope she is getting good treatment.

Ooh and Mae is getting her first tooth at last. It seems to have been trying to break through for ages.

Loli nice to hear from you again. Good luck with the twins positioning and getting a nice easy birth!

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jollyjoanne · 12/11/2009 20:39

New photo of Mae in her halloween outfit added.

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meep · 13/11/2009 14:22

Hi everyone - just popping in quickly in between vomits. Yup - little Rosie is STILL being sick

We had 4 days of her being fine so she went to nursery tand I finally wnet back to work. 11am on Wednesday and I get the dreaded call of doom to go and collect her.

She is still chirpy and has been to see the doc - but there is not much we can do except keep her as hydrated as we can. But it is bl**dy difficult withholding milk as she just cries with hunger

Will read everyone's posts when I get more than a nanosecond.......

Wheelybug · 13/11/2009 20:19

oh poor you meep and poor dd2. That must be hard. Hope she's better very soon.

Lovely pics Joanne and Kanga - glad Australia went well

Hope your sleep is getting better MissMod

L had her 8 month check yesterday - all ok but we keep sniggering about her measurements. 9th centile for weight, 25th for height but her head circumference is 75th. So she's long (relatively) thin with a big head. Bless.

mdavza · 13/11/2009 21:09

Hiya! Been lurking awhile, just busy and I'm trying to finish 3 thick books before they have to go back to the library (the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, and the last two Twilight books). And lB has been keeping me occupied, oh yes, he is crawling all over and stands up against anything. He hasnt figured out how to sit down, though, but knows how to call me to rescue him! And he has 4 new teeth, seriously?
Boobz, will look forward to the pics. What a nice thing to do, imagine she can keep it forever. Hows your mum?
Meep, you seem to be having a raw deal of late, and poor Rosie!! I hope she gets better real soon.

Laum, hope you have a strong back! I can imagine that you must be super-sensitive re G's development, but from all I read and see, babies develop at their own paces. Trust your instinct!

I'm on a quarter ad every 2nd day, talk about placebo. Some days are good, some less so, but I'm determined to continue. My emotions are all over the place and suddenly I cry at the strangest things. But I feel more alive, in a way. I sometimes wonder if I shouldn't have waited until B was older because I still find myself extremely anxious about him some days, but don't we all have good mum and bad mum days?
Enough about me!

Ben has suddenly decided to take massive naps in the morning, and then to stay awake until bedtime at 7. He sleeps okish at night, is anybody else's lo doing something similar?

And kanga5, welcome back!

laumiere · 14/11/2009 11:59

mdavza sounds like he's keeping you busy! I've been all over the place emotionally too and it does get better, promise!

Back to work Tues, eep....

Also had a horrible day on Thursday, went to visit my brother in Warwick and DH slipped on some wet steps carrying DS1. Cue a trip to Casualty with DS1 having a suspected toddler fracture on his lower leg, DH has 2 broken ribs and Gabe threw up over everyone. We then had to get the train home reeking of sick (£60 single fares too) and got home about 10pm. DS1 seems to be improving so they aren't casting his leg but argh, what a day!

lolianja · 16/11/2009 00:09

lau - Sorry you had such a shitty time of it on Thursday. Phrase about it never raining for pouring springs to mind. Hope your DH feels better soon.

I'm feeling exceedingly pissed off because we met up with a close male mate of mine and his girlfriend, who have a 3-and-a-bit-month-old little boy. Not only did the girl steal my baby name (I normally hate the petty concept of a name being stealable, but she asked me what name I was planning if one baby was a little boy and I said Guy - she said it was 'OK but not to her taste at all'... and promptly used it when she gave birth in early August a few weeks down the line), but she was constantly needling me about the fact that, somewhat embarrassingly, Guy seemed at times to be more articulate (I use the word loosely but true nevertheless) and spatially aware at not yet 4 months than James is at not far off 9 months.

Thus far I'd been reasonably relaxed about it, he's hardly 3 years old so an inability to crawl efficiently/walk/say mama, indeed utter anything other than burbled gobbledigook, is hardly worrying... just put it down to him going at his own pace. But she kept on and on about how admittedly Guy was Einstein in the making etc etc, so James might seem a big unexceptional in comparison, but still, was I not perhaps a little concerned? etc. And then she effectively told me not to worry, because J is an exceptionally good-looking baby so it didn't matter if he was hopeless at everything else, or words to that effect! I'm pretty laid back so she got no visible reaction out of me and happily I think that irked her but still! I'm furious! I may not be concerned yet but at times teeter precariously on the brink of being concerned as is natural, so why deliberately try and nudge me in that direction, particularly when I'm weeks/days/even potentially hours off popping out two more! Why do some women derive pleasure in stressing out others to try and validate their own experiences? It makes me so annoyed.

Sorry for epic rant, just can't stand the competitive culture rampant in so many other mums!

The maternal alarm bells aren't going off with James because a) he's not even 9 months old for a couple of weeks yet, so hardly lagging dangerously behind by not reciting Keats and running marathons already and b) I was a very, health-visitor-astoundingly early talker but a pathetically late walker, whereas my ex (Jim's dad) was running along like a child of 4 at 9 months old but barely said a word that made any sense until he started school. I think perhaps Jimmy just drew the short straw of both elements, so to speak! Hope he hasn't done though, no reason to suppose he'll be behind but in the dark of the night I do think about it.

laumiere · 16/11/2009 10:06

loli don't worry too much, I was also an early talker/late walker, DH on the other hand said his first words and crawled at 6 mo. Gabriel's just making more directed noises at the moment and still shows no interest in crawling/tummy time, far more content to sit and play/watch DS1/squeal like a velociraptor.

To be honest we only started being concerned with DS1 when he started to crawl at 11mo and wasn't walking at all, and 11mo is still late but normal. I tend to just avoid mums like your friend, no good tends to come of it. Last one I met was asking if we wanted more kids as we hadn't had a girl, and I said we might adopt in the future and that it's slightly easier for us to do so as we have experience with disability ( a lot of kids waiting for adoption in UK have some degree of disability). She replied in horror (knowing about DS1's condition) 'oh but how could you do that to your children, bringing disability into your home?!' FFS! I was so proud that I didn't tip her stupid latte over her head....

Yarnie · 16/11/2009 10:26

Loli Like you, I hate the competitiveness that seems to be prevalent amongst a chunk of mothers out there. My little one is lagging a little way behind his peers at nearly 8 months (all the other babes at coffee morning are crawling and Spike isn't, etc), but you know it's unlikely to be anything to worry about. But, it's obviously natural to be anxious. It's rubbish that your friend preyed on that.

If it's any consolation, my other half was an incredibly (and I mean, incredibly) late walker and talker and ended up taking a double first at Cambridge in Natural Sciences, coming top in his year, getting a scholarship to Harvard and, as a grown man, is doing rather nicely, thank you :-) I like to think these late walkers/talkers have a lot going on in their little heads, taking their minds of motoring of the leg and mouth variety!

meep · 16/11/2009 12:05

OMG I can't believe the competitive mothers that you have all come across - and how restrained you have all been. I am so so lucky that I haven't really met this breed in my circle of friends (though I can see some potential in a couple of first timers)

Can I just say again that my dd1 NEVER NEVER NEVER crawled! Honestly. She "crawls like a baby mummy" now at 2.4yo but she never crawled or rolled when she was a baby. She just went from sitting upright to bum shuffling to eventually walking. She was a late walker (but bum shufflers tend to be late - as they have both hands free, so why bother getting up to walk!). No idea whether she was an early or late talker - but she certainly never shuts up

Rosie rolls a bit and can sit up - but is not saying anything (just loves shouting) and I really am not expecting her to for ages. But she has 4 teeth where dd1 had none at this stage.

My advice is to say to any mum crowing about their early crawlers/walkers is that you are delighted that your baby is staying put as it means you can have a coffee and not have to chase after them all the time (which is a huge bonus)! So turn it on its head and see how they react!

We are now starting week 3 of Rosie being sick Tried to buy some more rehydration stuff from teh chemist yesterday. They couldn't give her any without a prescription - so had to phone nhs 24 who wanted her seen. They referred us to the A&E of our (very good) children's hospital. Had to do a fluid trial where she got 3.5mls of water every 5 minutes. She howled and screamed for about 40minutes until her wee tummy felt full. The paediatrician said he'd completed all the paperwork to admit her as he really didn't think she'd keep any thing down (which would have meant a tube up the nose to get some fluids in her )but luckily she kept it all down and we got home. It was horrible to see her so upset - but she has had milk now and fingers crossed no more sick or runny poo.

I can't wait until she starts eating properly again - she is so thin - you can feel her ribs and all teh bits of her backbone - evern her lovely chubby cheeks have gone. I want my chubby baby back!

Still haven't had the chance to read everyone's posts - will catch up properly soon............

corgikelly · 16/11/2009 15:27

Oh dear - haven't been on in ages and haven't time to catch up properly now, but I did just have to say poor Rosie, meep! How awful for her and for you - I hope she will at last be on the road to recovery.

Rhys came down with pneumonia ten days ago (2.5 solid months of colds had to take their toll at some point) but improved quickly with antibiotics. He dropped a bit of weight, but nothing compared to poor little Rosie. (Of course, as of this morning he's back at nursery after more than a week away, so I figure he'll bring back another cold tonight...)

Wishing you all healthy babies (you too, lau) and families (especially your mum, boobz) and witty retorts to the uber-competitive snarky ladies out there!

mdavza · 18/11/2009 22:08

Loli, good for you for keeping your composure. Tbh, she sounds a bit jealous? And I'm mean and petty-would be furious if somebody took my baby name!

Meep, sounds awful, hope she's better, and chubby soon.

Lau, what a bummer! (pun intended). It must have been so sore for both! Hope you work is ok.

Ben now has 7 teeth and he's drooling like a tap. But so sweet, laughing and squealing when we play peek-a-boo!!
ALthough he's now trying to stand up against things, and then letting go, I take no credit for this, it's just how he is, isn't it?
..today he woke at 7 (after a 5:30 am start but got him down again) and then napped from 11 til 2:30 ( of course, it's my working day so I missed this massive nap) and back to bed at 6:30-will have to see what the night brings.

laumiere · 19/11/2009 10:31

Well, DS1 is back in hospital this morning so I'm home with the baby (great in my first week back at work!) but hopefully it'll be ok, we've just got to monitor hi leg in case it is a break.

In Gabriel news: typical baby, I spend 11 months with him and no sign of moving, DH spends 2 days with him and he's starting to bum-shuffle! (Only about half a metre at the moment but is a start!) He's also acquiring a second lot of teeth so nothing within a metre of him is safe from chewing

Wheelybug · 20/11/2009 19:49

lau - hope ds1 is ok. and Meep - how is poor Rosie ??

Competititve parenting really does my head in. My bro is terrible - our my dd1 and his dd are 6 months apart (although thankfully different school yrs) and its terrible. I was hoping that as dd2 is 3 years younger than his youngest it wouldn 't be an issue anymore but when I was telling him what dd2 was up to, he changed the subject to how his ds's potty training was going. Sigh.

Well I agree with those who say, be pleased if your children aren't moving. L is being a nightmare - her latest obsession is climbing up on our fireplace and munching the fake coals.

Missmodular · 21/11/2009 20:15

Gosh, competitive mummies are awful aren't they? Thankfully most of my mum friends are the opposite - they're always saying how awful their little ones are, what crap mums they are etc. I'm sure they don't mean a word of it, and it's just said to make me feel better about myself, bless them

I second what everyone else is saying about mobile babies - they're hard work. I spend half my time checking that DD1 hasn't just left a pile of coins/buttons/marbles/stickers in M's path (DD1 has a penchant for collecting random objects) and the other half checking M's mouth to make sure she hasn't swallowed anything inappropriate.

Hope everyone's well!!

laumiere · 22/11/2009 19:26

Hmm, quick question for the mums of boys here! When your little men are teething, do they ever get swollen/sore looking penises?

Missmodular · 25/11/2009 13:45

Er, where is everyone??

Laumiere, I'm afraid I can't be of any help re boy's bits, but if it were me I'd go down the docs just to make sure.

Major childcare stress here - the nanny that I've been sharing with a friend has just handed in her notice. Her last day is just before Xmas and I've got two magazines going to press in January. Aarrgghh. Has anyone used nanny agencies before??

On the plus side, Melissa has found her first consonant! So it's now Bababababababa ad infinitum as well as the random vowel sounds we've had to date.

Wheelybug · 25/11/2009 14:13

Hello I'm still here !

Lau - can't help you with boys bits either I'm afraid. How's dd1's leg ?

missmod - no experience of nanny agencies. Hope you get something sorted - sounds like bad timing.

And meep, hope you're back at work so too busy to post. Hope dd2 is better.

L is being christened on Sunday - will try and post a piccie of her before she gets food on her dress .