Dec 08- Must keep chocolate & cheerfulness near, teething time is nearly here!

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Right.... back to post the link now!

Oh, LadyT, how tedious, I hate it when men regress to the age of about 8 together, well done you for saying what you thought even if it did turn into a row. Better than seething resentment. What gets on my goat (and this was even before T arrived) would be when he would be out with his mates at the pub and do they whole saying he'd be back at a certain time/do something and then when of course he didn't because he'd had a couple more ales, he'd pull the naughty schoolboy act. Or when he asks what he's "allowed to do" - as if I've ever stopped him doing anything before!
He also does the saying mean things in the heat of the moment which I'm meant to forgive and forget when the argument is resolved, whereas I think you are always responsible for what you say, however angry you might be at the time. Grrr.
On the feeding front, I'm having a nightmare in the mornings, can't usually go out as it takes T at least an hour to get max 140 mls down him for his 7.30 feed and then his 11am one and he seems really unhappy. Think it's because he necks so much in the night that he's not hungry first thing and that affects the feeds during hte day. When your DD dropped her 4am feed, LadyT, did she just do so of her own accord or did you do anything to change it? I think T's morning feedings would go much better if he could drop the middle of the night one, but the whole dummy thing doesn't work and I think he is genuinely hungry as he's making up for what he hasn't had during the day. Maybe the trick is to gradually reduce how much he gets, will see...
In laws arriving soon, first time they'll have seen T, am v excited but feel sorry for them as we're all staying in the same 1 and a half bed flat and they're an elderly couple but not any other accommodation near here. Cosy I guess!
So glad for all the better baby nights, hope they continue .

spot These days DD is rarely starving first thing. Last night I didn't bother with the dream feed as she was fast asleep. She woke at 1 for a bottle then not a peep till 7. She didn't have a bottle while nearly 8 though as she just didn't seem hungry at all even though she usually has a bottle later ay 3ish. I don't know if she doesn't really need a bottle in the night or if she just likes to be awake for a while before tucking in. If you work it out with T let me know!

Hope the PIL visit goes well. They must be so excited.

Thanks Spot and Jolly. He is stuck at court and I am really glad as I could cheerfully hit him with a very large frying pan. Yes, that 'Am I allowed' thing grates with me (I couldn't be more accommodating or more encouraging or appreciative of his need to go out, or less whingy generally).

Jolly, I was interested in BLW initially but have also found the tone of what I have read a little irritating/evangelising/as if anyone who does purees is a fearful, old school wimp. It's a barrier to what may be a great way of weaning. I just don't know. I am trying to keep an open mind about it all but the bottom line is that I HATE being told what to do.

Spot - what happened was that she didn't want it a few days on the trot, and this had coincided with her having a feed which fell late-ish. So we kept to that routine. What time is his last feed at night? Could you try making it late, to see if he can make it through to morning? I am quite happy to feed DD at 11.30/12, as I go to bed quite late anyway. Thinking back though, we had also started making her last feed of the day bigger. Good luck with the in-laws.

ladyT Mmm that is certainly my impression from the book so far. I don't see why it has to be one or the other. Surely they can play with finger foods to feel included at mealtimes, nibble what they can and have some puree afterwards if they fancy it.

DD now has 2 teeth . She'll be tucking into a pork chop no problem by 6 months if she carries on like this.

The aftermath of an arguement can be worse than the thing itself. I seethe for hours thinking up wonderful come backs.

Can I just make a general apology for the standard of spelling in all my previous and future posts?! I really can't spell for toffee and the sooner MN came up with some sort of spell check device the better .

Re: weaning, my approach is 'stick food in front of child and see if they eat it.' I don't think you should be too prescriptive, some babies love purees, some won't touch them and others won't touch finger food. I thin the things to remember are:

• at 6 mo they can manage finger foods and they're often easier to prepare and take out and about
• not a good idea to force-feed babies (if they gag or turn their heads away they don't want it!)
• no need to get stressed over what they eat or how much in the early months, milk is the main source of nourishmnet till they're one

LadyT: hope your DP sees the light, I hate arguments. Imaginary friends indeed! Maybe a subtle propaganda initiative is needed re: the neighbour so your DP comes to realise his gittishness.

Gosh I'm tired. Shouldn't be as I got some sleep last night but it's been a long week. Looks like DH will be working most of the weekend too.

2 teeth?!

we have bunny emoticons!

actually that last one is a tad sinister

must get out more. Now in fact -orf to the park

Afternoon all,
Well I didn't sleep very well as I was on the edge of the bed in anticipation of a crying baby at 2am! All well until just after 3 when I heard a little wimper which ordinarily I would ignore, but I jumped up and shoved the dummy back in! He was back asleep within a couple of minutes, but he technically did wake up! Another issue I will resolve tonight is the skylight above his cot (which has no blind & has never been a problem before.) But the new tenant that moved in upstairs coincidently had the light on when I heard the wimper at 3 am which sort of indirectly shines a little bit of light in the room. I'm going to get DH to put a makeshift blind up (actually I'm going to get pissy tonight if he doesn't do it as I've asked three times now!)
Anyway, B has official got my cold he woke very sniffly and coughing which isn't going to help the new routine!

This has taken me forever to write, just can't get started today!

Great news on all the good nights had!
Especially to verso! I bet you can see a light at the end now! I wish you many more good nights - you deserve it, as it's well overdue!

Ros sorry about yours

lady I can relate a bit - I had it out with DH about his cycling obsession - I feel I look forward all week to him being home on the weekend and then last week I just got a feeling he was dissapointed as I wanted to do one thing in particular with him on the Sat, and he had a ride planned with the cycling buddies - again -(whom I've never met but swears we are having a BBQ to have them over soon) and which he does every weekend, So then he says he won't go (after previously throwing his toys) but by that stage I'd feel like it was forced to spend the day with us if you see what I mean... i know there's Sunday, yes, but he'll be shattered from the 70 mile bike ride the day before!
So i'm booking up this weekend to lunch with friends both days! Hope you both sort ot out Lady! Hey do you know "The Trout" in Wolvercote? I think it's near you - We often go for a pub lunch if we go out to Henley, so i'll let you know next time and see if you can get cheerful with us!
Had an appallingly low offer on our flat... to which we said no bloody way - ho hum

Anyway, must go get poor B some medicine and take the dog out....

Effie that's great advice re: weaning. PIL will be here any moment. Am practicing being nice (and have put huge bandage on thumb in bid to elicit sympathy/offers to do the washing up. am such an old ham).
LadyT sorry about the row. You're right it is hard - and I think having a baby is really tough on a relationship. The idea that people do it to become closer makes me laugh a lot.
And yes - Grand national. I was trying to work out ways we could do a sweepstake, but I couldn't think of anything that didn't involve transferring money and sound a bit dodgy (while we're at it I've got a cousin in Nigeria who is a Prince and can't access his bank account...).
Ros sounds like you had a tough night. And at choosing to do the marathon...

LadyT, does he think when you meet up with the girls that you are sat in a restaurant alone talking to yourself? Grrrr!!

DS1 is at MIL's today so it is very quiet. Might try and get a nap, I slept from 11 until about quarter past 7 last night so I don't agree with the GP saying it is just general baby tiredness.

Just bookmarking myself. Does anyone feel that their family gets in the way of their MNing? Catch 22 isn't it!

Ooooh some excitement in my family. My brother has a trial with Newcastle United!! Maybe he'll become a famous footballer and he can buy me a nice car!!! Also he can get Veggie and me tickets to see Newcastle Vs Arsenal!!

ooh I just had an idea, a mumsnet BBQ! (Nationality hazzard) Get my DH to cook Or a pub lunch - we go to a lovely one on he river....

good luck brother kayz!

just had the fright of my life. note to self: do not attempt to water plants in the front garden without bringing keys. door slammed, baby asleep upstairs, mother locked out of her own house without phone, money, anything. thank god for fabulous neighbours - ran around like a headless if hysterical chicken then jumped over a back fence and managed to get in through open back door. and madam takes this opportunity to sleep through the whole escapade. first time in 2 months that she's slept for more than 45 mins at a go during the day. obviously should scare myself silly more. phew.

WG I saw that on FB and it sounds so scary. Thank god for your neighbours.

Just a quickie. We are potty training chez artichoke so I have to keep my eyes on dd1 and off mn at the mo. Anyway I just wanted to cheer for verso and the others with better than terrible nights. We also had a good one (3 wakes but only 2 feeds in 11.5 hours). I also wanted to send commiserations to LadyT, there is nothing worse than when men make borish mates who bring out the school boy in them. I hope your DP is suitably contrite tonight.

Oh and JB I am sooo with you on the need for a spell check.

Right better go and police the potty some more. We are taking it to a fair this afternoon which is bound to end in tears (& other bodily fluids).

WOO Effie, those bunnies are a bit Donnie Darko.

Kayz, that is AMAZING about your bro. Is it soon?

Lal, does your cousin have a large sum of money that he needs to put in a bank account for a few days? Let's hope we do better tomorrow than with the Gold Cup, eh?

PMk - I know where Wolvercote is but is the Trout the same as the Perch? They are all dull old riverfish anyway. Yes, if you are every in town and fancy a fat boy lunch, let me know. Me and DD are very amenable but if you feel you could stand an annoying fat barrister as well...he would love your DH as he loves doctors - he wanted to be one but has a phobia of vomit (adult) believe it or not. He hung out with his sister a lot when she was at med school and a lot of his friends are docs.

It is about 3 months away. He is so excited, he is like a little kid!!

loving the idea of a mn bbq. can we bring dps/dhs? and put stickers on them saying Mr Waitinggirl etc? when i met turnip's dh, i said "hello mr turniphead" and for one moment he looked so offended. i swiftly explained.

kayz - how exciting!

ladyt - how infuriating
effie - was it you who was the sling fanatic? i really want to use ours, but dd screams and screams - thought msaybe i need to find a new style.

dd just vommed so much feed up i'm amazed there's anything left. i must be producing enough milk for 2 babies ashe voms so much up and yet still puts on weight. i'd have had a great career as a wet nurse.

WG That's hilarious!!!! yes let's bring them and they can monitor babies while we get cheerful "Mr Rosisdreamingofchocolate" I would have to ban lycra though.... DH loves to 'man' the BBQ! We will have to explore that! Lady yes that would be good - except DH is a bit tiring - fairly quiet, until he gets on to a subject that he's interested in, and then he doesn't stop and repeats himself and tells you the history of the most boring random things and I often wonder how he ever knew it in the first place, or why he wanted to! He retains the most unusual useless pieces of information and trivia! I'm sure he just glazes over most of the time I talk - they do say opposites attract I spose! Too bad he doesn't retiain things like "can you put a blind up in the bedroom" he archives those things...
His brother is a Barrister sort of, in Training so he would relate! Right really must go and get dog to park!

Veggie I have found something you might like to see. Ljungberg