March 2008:A new thread before they start crawling!

[turtle23]

Thought it was about time....

I was staggered upon becoming pregnant to discover that people then felt OK to discuss my size in front of me (and 1 really annoying women to run up and pat my bump!!) And it only gets worse as a parent. DS has morphed into a teenager- either stamping his feet and shouting 'I WON'T!!!' or drooping 10 mtrs behind me alternating 'I'm tired' with 'I'm bored'. I dislike intensely going out at the moment. Good job because I also seem to be chained to the kitchen sink, 3 different breakfasts, 3 different lunches and then at least 2 different teas. Roll on 7 months and then this house is going to be fish pie central (oh, except DS has decided he doesn't like his food mixed up..
Also when DS was 2 he chipped his front tooth falling full pelt onto the kitchen floor. It's now infected and he's on antibiotics this week and if it doesn't clear up they're talking about taking the teeth out under general aneasthetic (sp?). I'm feeling really guilty cos' he's always running into things and falling over. mainly through his own lack of care but still.

As you may have guessed- I'm Empress of the grumpy-buts of Buttsland this morning.

Hello all

I've not been on here much recently due to a combination of childrearing,exhaustion and a gradually increasing touch of depression. I've been prescribed Citalopram today so am hoping that will help.

Seems like there are a few of us in the same boat.

Have to go now as DS is rummaging through my recycling bag.

Hope people feel better soon.

HQ - just get dogs. They halve the clean up factor! Sorry you are feeling low. I'm sure hormones are a big part of it. My friend has just stopped her final BF and she says she feels quite crap.

Inspired by your pita melts, I've done my own. I whizzed up cooked courgette, aubergine, broad beans, onion, rosemary and olive oil then spread on whole wheat pita with a little cheddar and hey presto, the kid loves it! He's munching on his third piece now.

I figure I can use the spread for pasta, too, thinned with a little more olive oil and will try it with mozzarella. It is quite tasty if I do say so myself. And it makes me feel like he's eating proper food, too. Wha hey.

We've got the lurgy over here, i could see it coming but it hit me big time. dd has an upset stomach and ds a cold so can only sleep upright on my chest but want to sleep continously, agh! so was up all night as this struck at teatime.

Went to dentist yesterday am, with mil to watch kiddies for me, dd threw a massive tantrum which i ignored while mil stood around wringing her hands and saying things like 'but those men are luaghing at her'
one of said men said "i bet she is two" and when i said she was replied in his experience it was best to ignore, but mil cant help walking back threatening to leave and not quite knowing what to do when dd screams at here to go then!

Mil also told me off as ds has a cold due to not wearing a jumper yesterday, i took it off inside dentists and left it off inside a HEATED shopping mall and HEATED supermarket, and was placed on top like a blanket on the five min walk between. I didnt scream at her that it was her who loudly declared he was too hot at the dentist when i was a bit slack in removing the damn jumper.

Glam- hope you are feeling better soon

Am falling out of love with my phil and teds, anyone got good double buggy recommendations?

Lots of love to all feeling low. Take care of yourselves!

And HQ I HATE cleaning up the highchair after meals would rather clean up piles of poo than that one.

Had shit day at work today and then came home to dd laughing when i walked in the door. Was so nice and such a good perspective sharpener!

fnf1 DD's second tooth came right after the first one. I don't think there was more than a day or two when there was only one visible.

LOL @MNFM - it's such an amazing coincidence that all the best mums ever got pregnant last June

Jfly @ G's dinner. that sounds d.e.l.i.c.i.o.u.s.

HQ sorry to hear you're feeling blue. It might well be the decrease in BFing. I haven't done that yet, but it's bound to have an effect I would have thought. I have recently also been feeling like I don't play with/talk to DD enough and I've no idea where that feeling has come from. I guess now they're so active, there is so much to do with them and even more to do for them. It's very full on.

Speaking of decrease in BF, or milk feeding I guess, should they be cutting down now? I'm still feeding DD and then giving her solids afterwards for a taste/play, so she's still having around the same amount. Well obviously I have no idea of the amount, but there is no discernible difference in frequency or duration of feeds.

wearehips - what is the significance of fish pie and 7 months? DD was 7 months on Tuesday. I'm hoping I can avoid any fish pie responsibilities I might have unknowingly taken on by becoming a parent.

Hi Glam, was wondering where you'd got to. Sorry to hear you've not been well but hopefully a corner has been turned.

littleducks friends of ours with twins absolutely rave about their jane double buggy. It does seem very sturdy and nice and no baby has to lie just looking at their siblings arse.

whoever mentioned it a while ago, I completely agree. It's lovely that they've learned to babble, and lovely to be called mama (even ehbubamah), but 4am is not the time for a conversation. [knackered emoticon]
bless him, he's so talkative now he has a proper tooth, but no sign of the other one yet apart from compulsive chewing habit.

sorry about the low feelings here and the busy bodies - why oh why do people do that - makes me v cross on your behalf HQ. But as for the other stuff - I have had PMT like nothing else since having DS - I get totally over emotional and over wraught so perhaps it is that. All that said I do think the cleaning up is enough to drive anyone demented. Have just spnt 10 mins scrapping off food from all around the high chair - am not amused - and agree it feels like all we do is cook and clean and change nappies. Personally the way I have decided to deal with it is make a list of all the chores that must be done in a week and make a designated time/date to do them instead of doing everything all of the time. it seems to be working for me - a bit like treating this more like a job. It leaves me the afternoons to do nice stuff like playing or whatever. Anyway - hope you find your way through it and sending good happy hormones your way.
Love to all.

Not a happy day here, dd ill so grumpy and keeps throwing up everywhere, at two she has no clue its coming until its out. She also soiled herself a few times from terrible dihorrea (sp).

Ds ill so clingy, screams for hours, doesnt like taking calpol, will only sleep on my chest when awake wont let me out of sight

So major competition over my lap atm.

ARGH!!!!!

Thanks for all your kind words. I'm getting there, 1,2,3 and breathe.

Littleducks, sorry to hear about your poorly children. Have you tried a syringe to administer the Calpol? I got one with a bottle of neurofen but I think the pharmacist can give you one. What works for me is putting the business end of the syringe in DS's cheek so he can't spit it out. I push the inner tube down very slowly and we seem to get minimum leakage that way. Apologies if you're already doing it that way. I hope they both (and you!) feel better soon.

DS's waking has got earlier and earlier. God help me when the clocks go back. Right better go, tons to do.

oh ds loves the syringe, trys to grab it and wave it about but can gag and vomit up calpol if required

dd was the same at that age but has developed a love for the stuff! dh gave her tixylix cough syrup last night and she vomited that and her whole dinner up

he claims they get the stubborness from me!

think as i am alone with two clingy sick children i will order take away as breakfast and lunch were both toast as now time/hands to make anything else (so much for the 7 day juice diet!)

hello ladies- i'm soooooo glad to hear that i'm not the only one having a few 'ishoos'

I WANT MY BED BACK- WHICH WILL IN TURN MEAN I CAN HAVE MY DH BACK [strop]

Every blardy night- girls go down between seven and half past- good as gold and sleep great for a while, then at some point in the night i end up with two babies in bed with me, dh in the spare room (muttering about molly-coddling usually!)

I wouldn't mind- but when they get into bed they don't sleep- Oh no! not when theres wrestling to be done with each other or with mummy as she's half asleep

right rant over................ i'm off shopping, if anyone would like the loan of two 10 month old terror-tots CAT me

just tried egg here for the first time and was not well received - anybody ahve any good ideas for what to mix with? i did just yolks mixed with milk (mine) which come to think of it now doesn't sound that exciting!

mnfm- french toast? or omelette with bits of soft veggies in it?

there's a tooth in dd's mouth today! Ok, there's a tiny white speck that you can see and feel, but it's more than there was yesterday

dunno MNFM, I'm attempting sweet potato with broccoli as a first attempt at real food for LO. It's cooking at the moment, it may have boiled dry I'm so neglectful!

Got a photo of the tooth! Still no sign of 2nd one.

Trying to get him on video babbling, but any distraction and he shuts up, same thing happened when I phoned my parents to let them hear it last night - took him 20 mins to recover from the shock of grandad's voice coming out of the big plastic block thing

WBPA, very impressed that the girls make their own way into your bed, or do you give them a helping hand cos you quite like it really?

Littleducks have you attempted calprofen or other ibuprofen stuff instead of calpol? I've stopped giving calpol as they put either malitol or xylitol in it which is a sweetener but also a laxitive. Not a very sensible thing to put in baby medicine you'd have thought. I'd rather give him the full sugar version if it wasn't so blimmin' difficult to get hold of.

Glam, big {{{hugs}}} and keep looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. Make sure you run away if it's an oncoming train though

Sorry to hear that some of you have been struggling, I have too a bit of late, just feeling a bit overwhelmed. My lovely amazing Mother has helped me out massively by surprising me with a long weekend in New York in a couple of weeks.

Some time away will do me the world of good and DD is going to stay at home with Daddy. As much as I know I will miss her I really need some time to be 'Ewe' for a bit instead of just being 'Lambs Mum'! A wee identity crisis if you will.

Also got chatted up by a rather delicious man last night in the pub so that made me .

I do egg (white and yolk)scrambled with cheese on top on mini bagels or toast, DD loves it. She also likes hard boiled egg and picking at the yolk!

I am jealous of all the babies with teeth! DD keeps waking up in the night and I am putting it down to teething, she sounds very much like WBPA's girls! Except I only have one of the little terrors to deal with, obv.

A friend (well, ex colleague) gave birth at 35 weeks to twins this week and the little girl baby had died in utero a few days before she went into labour and she has subsequently rejected the little boy baby and wouldn't hold or say goodbye to her little girl. Really gave me some perspective on how lucky I am to have a beautful healthy baby even though being a parent is challenging!

Lots of love to all of you who are having a tough time/ill kids/nosey strangers etc. It seems like a common time for a dip, I'm all for blaming hormones

we use the sugar version always despite the look from pharmacists, will check ingrediants though

I think ibuprofen is better for teething as it's an anti-inflammatory. That's prob been said here before, but always worth a reminder with all our teething babes.

G is teething again after a two week break (no new teeth during that time, tho!) and last night I was up 5 times, I think. We are not amused. And of course I see no new ones coming in, so it could be ages before they break.

But, on a brighter note, I spent the day at the Sanctuary, courtesy of my year-old voucher from DH. Thought it was about time I did it! Very nice and relaxing, although couldn't really take full advantage of the day as I left DH with only about 3oz of milk. I just can't express worth a damn. Anyhoo, G survived and so did DH. Although G is still wearing his PJ's, but that's a minor detail!

Hey, it's the weekend, we're all entitled to spend the weekend in our PJs

half term. zoo. hmmmph.
hello glamma, i've missed you.
temperature here about to plummet, giving my usual panic about warmth of baby until we all adjust.

LO got up at right/new time so thankfully I did not have an early wake up this Am (well still early but not earlier than expected). How did everyone do in the time diff?

we did fine by shattering them with nanny related activity yesterday, and keeping up late. mild reepeat in progress today, involving zoo. hmmmph. every brick and budgie of which i know by name, i think

ff1- unfortunatly they aren't quite that advanced yet- i did think for a while that the baby fairies were getting them from their room and dropping them in my bed but i later found out it is dh- my treatment means that i can sleep through ANYTHING until physically shaken awake .

So last night- carys decided she wanted to snuggle up in bed at 1am- NOT A CHANCE says dh and sends me downstairs to feed, settle and change butt whilst watching airline- got back to bed at about 1.35, carys fast asleep in her cot- preggers zonked again. 4.25 Amelia is moaning, dh drags himself up trots in to get her and comes back with both of them- carys looking ever so slightly dazed and confused, cue a dirty look from me, dh "i'm going to sleep in the spare room and i thought if you had both of them in here now i won't have to get up again"

dd is all better now but poor ds is suffering miserably

have sent dd off for swimming lesson, she has a crash course for half an hour every day this week -thats my plan for the dreaded half term

i just hope she isnt too tired, we went to see the legoland fireworks display last night, was very impressive, set to star wars music so dh was happy, dd got a pink light sabre to wave (saw as may dads with them as kids!) and she slept with light sabre last night!

ds cried most of the night it seems and kept everybody up though, is happily snoozing now

Jfly- what was the sanctuary like? i think i would appreciate going there

MNFM- iu have a feeling when everyone is fully recovered we will redoing time difference, i was camped down on the sofa at 5.30 am before cbeebies turns on, was supposed to just bring ds so dd could sleep but dd followed

Ahhhh the only advantage to still being in Vancouver time was there was an hour taken off it for me! Hurrah! P went to sleep at 230 am last night...grr.