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Gill79 · 09/08/2008 16:39

done it

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gingermumi · 13/09/2008 21:05

Hope you're ok leesmum.

Am OK with work now (for the moment at least). Am trying to be hyper organised but not sure how long i can keep that up! Still need to read two books over next week or so (might just have to wing it a bit ). am doing prep at the moment and left dh in charge of a pan of broccoli - "please watch the broccoli, it needs two more minutes and then it'd done", I say. Next thing house is full of black smoke and the pan is coated with charcoal...his response..."i though I was two minutes"... bit like the bloke estimation of 6 inches! Vastly inaccurate! FFS do i have to do evertything!!

Had best get on! Anyone know how bean is? Have a good weekend eveyone

strawberrycornetto · 13/09/2008 21:09

Hello, hope everyone is ok.

Leesmum, I hope today has been .... not sure what really, just hope you've been ok I guess

Thanks for the food tips. Egg, I've just bought some of the plum jars and am still using the ella's kitchen ones too. Alkar, didn't realise your DS also has milk issues. Its a pain, isn't it. Desperately need to do some more cooking too but can't be bothered tonight . Am watching a box set of ugly betty which my bf lent me. DH is away .

Egg, I am in Bromley and my Monkey Music was in Chislehurst. Was hoping to meet some mums. One was nice but said she was only doing the trial because it clashed with her NCT. Most of others may well have been nannies. DS seemed to really like it though. I may move on to gymboree or tumbletots when he's walking. What does everyone think other than Tyaca's vomiting experience .

Am impressed re the exericse Alkar. I am also trying to sort out exercise. Have renewed my gym membership and joined up DD and DS. DH keeps taking himself off to the gym so I think its only fair that I do to

Princess, not pleased to hear about your coil - I am due to have one fitted on Friday assuming my period shows up [terrified face?] I don't really want to, like others we hardly have sex anyway so seems a bit pointless . DH did volunteer for the snip too Egg but I am not one hundred percent sure I won't want another baby. (TBH I think I do although I very much doubt I will push it )

Slacker, am vv impressed with your 10 years feeding. People are starting to comment about how I must be about to stop feeding DS. He's only 6 months old and he's just been diagnosed as allergic to cows milk so why would I stop?? Yet people (including DH and MIL have used the allergy as a reason I should stop. Grr.

Am also jealous of your happy baby Slacker. DS is so grumpy at the moment. All he wants to do is roll onto his front and then he shouts because he can't move. If I try to sit him up or put him on his back, he immediately puts himself back on his front. Arrrggggg - men!!!!

LOVEMYMUM · 13/09/2008 21:14

Hi gingermum - i totally know the feeling of FFS do i have to do everything. DH earns the money and I do everything else.

Katie goes to Gymboree and loves it. I enjoy it too.

tyaca · 14/09/2008 16:07

hey strawberry. did not realise you were in bromley. i am in croydon (tho on the outskirts, so call it surrey/kent borders to make myself feel better about it )

tumbletots is ok i think from crawling rather than walking. dd can sit up and fall over but thats about it.... so i may leave going back for a while. but of a scam. a fiver a class (fine) but then a £20 annual membership fee .

there are a couple of things in beckenham i was thinking of trying if you up for venturing there together?

tyaca · 14/09/2008 16:08

and big hello lovemymum!

strawberrycornetto · 14/09/2008 16:35

Tyaca, I didn't realise you lived on the Surrey / Kent borders either!!!! What have you seen in Beckenham. I'd be up for it except it has to be a Wednesday as I go back to work 4 days a week on 1 October (sob!) Am also planning to try Gymboree at some point.

lljkk · 14/09/2008 19:21

HI all,
I've had coil -- DH could feel wires (er, when he shouldn't, and he didn't like it), then it made my periods last 10 days. Plus insertion if you're not actually on your period is a b*tch. That was non-hormonal one.

I've had implant which makes arm very sore, and killed my libido, and meant erratic light bleeding... but, it was quite convenient in all other respects. Do not gain weight with implant in, they'll have to fish around (could be quite painful) to get it out if you do gain weight.

Princessllama, I feel for you with the 50 min tantrum in the road. Been there, done that.

Clapping already, Bessie, wow! DS sort of does the High-5s.

Gingermumi, the vacuum cleaner thing is a pisser, I bet, I try to make sure DS is exposed to it at least twice a week hoping he won't develop a phobia that way.

Bad nights means DS4's day sleeps are all over the shop, I got about 2 hrs sleep while he was napping today, feel strangely human for it .

sarahmikeharryandrosie · 14/09/2008 19:37

Hello all were back from our lovely holiday, will have a read and catch up with you all must say there are lots of posts since last sun !!!!!

Havr added a few holiday pics for you to see too!!!

strawberrycornetto · 14/09/2008 19:58

Welcome back Sarah. Your photos are great, looks like you had a fab time

Lljkk,not impressed with the coil horror story. Mine was fine last time although DH was completely freaked out when I told him he might feel the threat!!!!!!!!!!

sarahmikeharryandrosie · 14/09/2008 20:06

wow what a read- my eyes are blurred now from reading all your posts,

Sorry to hear some of you have feeding issues going on,

Not really got much to add accept we got a wii fit and i am off to do some hula hooping!!!! catch u all tomorrow, xxx

sarahmikeharryandrosie · 14/09/2008 20:08

strawberry- we had a great time the weather was great too which helped, Cornwall is a lovley place, DS did not want to come home as he likes surfing apparently!!!lol

dandandan · 14/09/2008 21:51

Thanks slacker. Like strawberry I have also been getting comments about when I should stop feeding him and DS may also have a milk allergy. I want to carry on feeding him for a year and morning and night after that for as long as he wants to. I know a lot of people on MN are very pro prolonged bf but its hard when you have family telling you you are gonna make it hard for yourself in the long run. I might just lie and tell them I've stopped

Didn't get to aerobics on Saturday, DS came down with a bit of a cold so we didn't get much sleep on Friday night and I just couldn't face it. Going on a 1.5 hour walk tomorrow though. Must remember to weigh myself in the morning.

lol at the 2 minutes and 6 inches ginger

Yes she is gorge sarah!

Hope the weekend went OK leesmum, thinking of you.

alkar · 14/09/2008 21:52

Bugger, forgot to change my name back !

Slacker · 15/09/2008 11:48

Strawb - your H isn't fully supporting you bfing, mine is v supportive. Although only in the sense that he can see it works well and he doesn't have to get involved, he doesn't actually care deeply about bfeeding politics or anything! Also I'd knee him in the bollocks if he expressed disapproval .

There are various ways to deal with people telling you their opinions on when you should stop feeding - first the "feck off!" approach where you tell them to mind their own business in no uncertain terms...Then there's the "nod, smile, mmm" approach, where you adopt a benign expression and appear to agree with them without actually doing so. Also the "blind them with science/information overload" approach - where eventually they'll be agreeing with you just to get you to stop reeling off facts and figures. This one used to work well with my mother, who didn't ever breastfeed and couldn't understand why I was so passionate about it.

Alkar - if unhelpful people say you're making it hard for yourself by continuing, point out that even if that were the case, you're not making it hard for them so they can butt out of your business. My best example of why breastfeeding into toddlerhood is fabulous: DS2 stopped bfing at 8 months and a few months later ended up dehydrated in hospital because he'd had some bug and didn't want to eat or drink. DS3 at the same sort of age had a bug - really high temp, 20 nappies an hour type of thing - and only wanted to bfeed - so we got through that without a trip to the doctor let alone hospital. Bfing toddlers is not always the most enjoyable thing ( to people who say the mother only does it for herself) but the benefits have been so obvious to me, compared to my first 2 that I only bfed as babies. Not sure I'm planning to bf this one for as long as DD fed (4.5 years!) but certainly till he's 2 or 3.

Feeling quite run down atm but DS4 is still a happy chappy and his cold lasted about a day!

Lljkk - eek at coil! I had one (non hormonal) for a few months before last preg, didn't have too many bad effects but just didn't like feeling it was there all the time. Had it removed for ttc and pretty sure I wouldn't have one again. Don't like contraception. Hence the 5 children

Baby classes are not great for meeting people in my experience - you might get lucky though, and the babies will probably enjoy gym. I spent most of DS1's babyhood not knowing anyone locally, then when he started school made friends with various people who lived v near, if only we'd got together several years before school started!

Princessllama - hope you're feeling better now and can get back on the alcohol (!) - I'm trying to cut back as had got into the habit of a glass of wine most evenings, going to stick to weekends now - no wonder I'm still so bloody fat!

Rozzy have you found the holy grail of holidays yet? Can't think of anything cheap, warm and northern in school hols! I'd probably either spend too much and go to a nice hotel with childcare (Gleneagles??!) or rent a cottage in the middle of nowhere with an open fire. But an unheated caravan would be miserable. If the weather's not too awful we might head back to the beach in cornwall for a night or 2 in half term this was my friend's idea, not sure I'm entirely up for camping in October but we'll see....going to Center Parcs in a couple of weeks so will see if we still need a holiday after that.

Ds4 has had enough of his playcentre thing so better go pick him up, laters...

sarahmikeharryandrosie · 15/09/2008 21:17

did i frighten everyone away????????

Gill79 · 15/09/2008 22:23

Tooth!

Clapping! (SO cute)

That's the good news. The last two nights I've been up four times a night. Am feeling very about it at the moment. Am so sick of not sleeping for more than two hours at a time.

Rozzy what about Aviemore? There's lots of lodges and things I think; we had a family holiday at the hotel in Coylumbridge one year (the only time I can remember going to a hotel with my family so must have been fairly cheap.) Lots of nice walks / bike rides in the forest (not really sure what 3/5 year olds can do!) and the highland wildlife park not too far away which is fab!

Lovely to see your holiday pics Sarah.

Went into work with DS the other day on a bit of an impulse. Have had a bit of a rethink and am now thinking it might be sensibe to go back after mat leaves end in Feb. Hopefully two days a week if I can get it; I'm thinking it will give me more flexibility in the long term to stay with the same company rather than having to apply for a new job later on and potentially have to work more days. However although there should be plenty of work going on my project early next year they're moving to Canary Wharf which is much harder to get to. So I may have to find a new project within the company so better start doing some networking!

Feel a bit out of touch with everyone at the moment. Spending too much time practising clapping and high fives . Hope everyone's well and promise to try and get on a bit more xx

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tyaca · 16/09/2008 09:08

hey up all. well, i did a night works. from sunday at 10pm til monday 6am. a one off contract that half killed me and loads of stuff went wrong . i feel weirdly liberated tho'. i used to spend all my life living on my nerves cause i found work so stressfull. i came back yesterday morning and instead of feeling awful and broken like i'd have done before, instead i thought - oh thank goodness, i dont have to do that again and its stregnthened my resolve to retrain. tho god knows as what .

sorry - only scanned other posts but just to say lol sarah, my "threads i'm on" but always has loads of threads where i'm the last poster so i always think i scarre people away. wd gill on the tooth and clapping.. rather spookily there is a baby in the AK puree book who i think looks like your ds. two days a week sounds a like a great option if its possible. sorry about tough nights (and you too on the last one ljjk).

alkar - sry you're not getting support you need for BF. of the three approaches outlined by slacker, i'd reccomend the smiling and nodding one (never tried it re extended BF, but works a treat with less fab HVs and also whenever DH suggests a really silly idea for the flat) good luck! got to go running out of power (on laptop, not physically!)

gingermumi · 16/09/2008 10:50

Can't see what the problem is with breast feeding, what are people thinking? Apart from it being no one elsse business its about whats best for mum and lo and thats all that matters, i would still be feeding now if ds hadnt decided that a bottle was easier (lazy sod), i kept up one feed a day until 7 months but fed dd2 until she was 10 months no probs. She e started walking then and it just seemed like a good time to give up.

Hope you're ok gill, Toby slept through last night for first time in months 9since he was about 12 weeks i don't think we've had more than half a dozen nights like it). It's exhausting but it can't go on for ever (can it?!

Tyaca- love the 'epiphany' - hope you think of something, just a suggestion but try doing the Stamford test (you can get it through the UCAS website, not sure if it's anywhere else), it gives ideas for careers based you answers to questions about interests etc.

Still no teeth here (FFS he's 8+ months), think ds must be last one to get any! and no crawling but he's a whiz inthe walker, saw him in bathroom this morning turning light on and off (with pull cord) and doing and andrex puppy job with the loo roll!

Had better go, am supposed to be doing stuff for work

strawberrycornetto · 16/09/2008 13:24

Hey all. Still no teeth here but then DS is only 6 1/2 months and DD got her first at 8 months.

Gill, sorry about the sleep, really hope it gets better soon . V impressed with the clapping though, I keep trying with DS but he just looks at me like I've gone mad . I think your thoughts about staying at the same company are very sensible. Its definitely harder to agree flexiblilty etc with a new role.

Tyaca, retraining sounds exciting. Any ideas what you might do? LOL re the nodding and agreeing with DH's ideas. I do the same with DH, he is always coming up with crazy schemes for our house renovation. I usually agree knowing he won't do it anyway.

Ginger, completely agree that BF is no one else's business but its amazing how many people are willing to offer opinions. A checkout women in Sainsburys had a go at my friend recently for buying formula. She's only giving one feed a day to top up and told the woman so, and she carried on having a go at her My DS would be v of the walker, I just know he'd love one as he loves his jumperoo but he's so small for his age that there is zero chance that he would touch the ground I think. Poor mini man!!

DS started settling in at nursery this week. I've found it really hard, even though I know all the staff because DD is already there (and they all love her!) I just want to cry when I see all the little babies with runny noses. They all seem to spend a lot of time crying but I think I have been there around sleep time. Still feel so sad though, I'm just not ready to leave him, especially with all the worry about the allergies.

Egg · 16/09/2008 13:54

Ginger your DS and my DD can be toothless and crawling-less together .

Egg · 16/09/2008 13:55

Bloody hell whenever i go to Tesco I used to buy every single last carton of Aptamil as nothing else DD would drink and nobody ever even raised an eyebrow at me!

sarahmikeharryandrosie · 16/09/2008 15:36

we ahve no teeth or crawling here either, DD is fab with stage 2 ffod though and her walker!!!(if ds left her alone that is) She pulls herself to standing postion at every oportunity too!!!

Hope everyone is ok,. were all good in our little bubble atm, however dd had me up at 4am this amtil 6 omg!!!! decided to skip fream feed again but she obvoisly is not ready for it just yet!!!lol

DS starts new playgroup tomorrow lunch and play 2 afternoons per week and pre school on thurs 5 mornings per week!!!!! he is so excited!!!(and so am i)

catch u all later,

xxx

rozzyraspberry · 16/09/2008 20:26

Hi all! Have had a minor meltdown today (as Strawberry already knows - thanks for the reassurance). Took ds to be weighed and he was EXACTLY the same weight as he was 6 weeks ago. I know that weight gain does slow down, particularly in bf babies but I did think he would have had some gain.

Met my new hv and to be honest was not particularly impressed. She said I shouldn't be feeding lo during the night and should only be feeding 3 times in the day. She then further demonstrated her lack of bf knowledge by quizzing me on how long he fed for at each feed and then saying that because he didn't take long he was just having a 'quick drink' rather than a full feed. Long and short of it is that instead of giving any constructive advice on his weight gain she just spouted complete rubbish about bf. Really disappointing as my previous 2 hv were lovely.

Anyway tiktok and others have reassured me and I'll continue as we are. Lately lo is far more content than he's ever been and is consistently sleeping from 7pm through to 4/5 am without a feed. He's doing pretty well with his solids and although he's not a huge eater I'm pretty pleased with how that's going. So basically I'm going to ignore the hv.

Anyway enough about me - hope you are all doing well. Strawberry your friend should complain about the shop assistant - that's not on.

tyaca · 16/09/2008 20:37

ugghhhh rozzy, its all very well to say smile and nod and ignore HV but that misses the point doesnt it? it makes blood boil tha someone could spout nonesense instead of giving decent advice or making sure you dont panic. glad the gurus in BF threads have helped out.... am now off to take a nosey, if nothing else i need to find out about this shop assistant

rozzyraspberry · 16/09/2008 20:47

Shopping assistant thing is on this thread ty - see below!!

Do feel much better after speaking to my mum and dh - both said the same thing 'look at him - there's obviously nothing wrong with him'. Must be all the standing dancing on my lap that's burning the calories. Did feel like a numpty mummy at the time though - even lied to hv when she asked if he was rolling etc - he's not but I said 'yes' just because I wanted to get out of there. What's all that about I'm not concerned about him so why did I lie.

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