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largeginandtonic · 23/07/2008 08:26

Mornin!

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elkiedee · 22/08/2008 15:01

I've enjoyed listening to the Harry Potter books on audio but think J K Rowling takes ideas from lots of much better children's writers. Two of the most obvious, I think, are Diana Wynne Jones and Jill Murphy (her Worst Witch books). As well of course as all the boarding school stories.

elkiedee · 22/08/2008 15:04

I have a bookcase of kids' books in the bedroom from my childhood, though a lot have gone missing, and a few are in my sister's room at my mum's. D has several boxes of picture books in the sitting room.

Bensonbluebird · 22/08/2008 15:04

What about Lemony Snicket's A series of Unfortunate Events and Chris Riddell's marvelous series of Ottoline books? both have great strong female lead characters.

I was reading at 3 too, DS1 is showing no sign though he does know his alphabet. He did have a major developmental breakthrough yesterday, his first recognisable drawing of a whale, a centipede and an egg. I'm so proud!

A's major achievement is blowing his nose. Now that is useful.

Bensonbluebird · 22/08/2008 15:06

Oh yes, Arthur Ransome! can't miss him out. I loved Swallows and Amazons

ShowOfHands · 22/08/2008 15:12

Diana Wynne Jones, oh yes! Did any of you see the BBC adaptation of Archer's Goon? I've never met a soul who remembers it. Or Moondial.

Pinkjenny · 22/08/2008 15:26

You see what over-achievers we are in the May 07 bunch.

Themasterandmargaritas · 22/08/2008 15:29

All brilliant suggestions, we have half of your list SOH, already, but had forgotten about The Water Babies and The Secret Garden. God knows where my childhood copies of those went. That's the problem with moving so much you don't want to accumulate too much as then you just have to move it and move it again.

Dick King-Smith books, which series are they? Don't you think she is a little young yet for HP? She certainly hasn't seen any of the films and i would much rather she read the books first, but is it too much? I used to love the Worst Witch books.

She is quite precocious and also started reading and writing at 3. She has the ability to read anything, she reads all the time, road signs, cereal boxes, over my shoulder on the computer I am delighted, it's definitely a PFB moment I agree its the most wonderful gift to give your child. Ds1 is close behind, he has just started to read at 4 and loves being read to.

Keep the suggestions coming, many thanks to you all, they are all going on the birthday present list!!

MKG · 22/08/2008 16:08

Well over here my favorite books were the Ramona books by Judy Blume. Ramona Quinby AGe 8, Ramona forever. They are great! and then for the tweens the best book is. "Are you there God, it's me Margaret" Only the best book ever written.

Pinkjenny · 22/08/2008 16:17

Are you there God, it's me Margaret is fab. I loved it. I also loved Blubber and all the ones that included Fudge.

The memories.

And I hid a copy of Forever under my bed.

Pinkjenny · 22/08/2008 16:28

I'm ashamed to admit I've just looked on Judy Blume's website. I had forgotten about all the wonderful books she'd written.

I wish I had kept all my copies for L.

ShowOfHands · 22/08/2008 16:44

Dick King-Smith. Most people will know The Sheep-Pig, immortalised in celluloid as Babe. I liked The Queen's Nose. He writes lovely books about animals in the main.

I know an 8yr old who has just loved the first HP, my only concern is it gets darker too fast to satiate his thirst to read the next few. I think it's one to get for her future reading needs.

Aah Judy Blume and her Ralph.

Was she really not keen on The Magic Faraway Tree?

MKG · 22/08/2008 16:57

I read Les Miserables when I was in sixth grade. Defintely a great book. My mom insisted we read the book before going to see the musical.

elkiedee · 22/08/2008 17:01

Ramona books are by Beverly Cleary.

I read Judy Blume as well, but I think Beverly Cleary's probably better for a near-7 year old girl. The central library children's library in Portland, Oregon is named after her.

MKG · 22/08/2008 17:10

Thanks elkidee. I got them confused even when I was younger.

Themasterandmargaritas · 22/08/2008 17:15

Dick King Smith must have past me by, I guess its my old age My goodness how many books as he written, that's phenomenal. Animal books are great for her, she is a big animal fan, already decided she wants to be a vet so I will see if the MIL can get some of those. I was so disappointed SOH that good old Moonface elicited a tepid reaction..maybe next year.

I think you have hit the nail on the head with the HP books, it would be difficult to start them off and not continue with the next but I worry they are a little too dark too soon for her.

I was thinking the Narnia serious first. And we will work our way through Roald Dahl as she loves the quirkyness of his writing and I can get those here. Throw in a few Dick King-Smiths, E Nesbitts and a splash of The Water Babies and that might keep her going for a while. Apparently her new school has a good library (otherwise they are non existent here)so fingers crossed.

How come Judy Blume passed me by too? I was definitely a Nancy Drew kind of person.

Themasterandmargaritas · 22/08/2008 17:17

Narnia series obviously

TheGreatScootini · 22/08/2008 18:08

Judy Blume taught me all I know about becoming a woman.Well nearly all

Moondial SOH!Loved it.Also the TV adaptation.I wanted to be called Araminta so badly after that for ages!

L decided for the first time in ages that she wanted to stay in the buggy on the way back from town.Blimey L and M in the P and t up the hill nearly killed me.It was like pushing a barrow of bricks.Ive no idea what either of them weigh.Im going to put them on the Wii fit pad to find out.

AbbyLou · 22/08/2008 19:30

Scoot, how similar are we? I loved Moondial too and loved, loved, loved Minty! I thought she was so beautiful!
I also loved Judy Blume. Me and my friends used to giggle over the well-thumbed rude pages in Forecer and I remember wondering if starting your periods really was like it was in Are you there God, it's me Margaret?!?
Cam, sounds like your dd is a very talented little girl to be reading such things at her age. Well done you for producing a genius! I have a little girl coming into my class this year and at the end of Reception, at the grand age of 5.5, she had read about three quarters of the books in our reading scheme!!

Lupins71 · 22/08/2008 21:44

Hello just popping i to say I am still alive (just), between my sick dp the kids not sleeping, me working nearly everyday in the pub as dp still not working and just have had the new my dad may not have too long to live, I am afraid I havent had time to post or read much, I really hope everyone is ok, I am off to bed now to hopefully get at least a couple of hrs before any of them wake up, I am going to hide in Arlens room soas not to disturb dp and send him back into deathly man illness as he was till 5am yesterday.

Hugs to all of you and your little lovelies, night night xx

twelveyeargap · 22/08/2008 21:47

Tony Hadley from Spandau Ballet lives near me. I can see in to Billy from Eastenders' garden as well, but that's less of a claim to fame...

I loved Judy Blume and Paula Danziger. Loved the Secret Garden and the Green Gables books. They gave me a love of Tennyson's Lady of Shallot. (It was Anne that used to recite that poem wasn't it, or am I going mad?) Joan Lingard was another author I loved. I'm not going to make any friends here, but I never read an Enid Blyton book I liked. Sorry. I might enjoy them more now, being more of an Anglophile, but I just didn't get them at all when I was younger. Though, that said, I did once plagiarise an EB book for an essay when I was about 7. How the teacher didn't cop on I will never know. I never did it again. I was haunted by my crime. (Not least because I thought the story was sh'te anyway. )

Speaking of books, I think part of the problem with my library is that they don't have a "children's library", just a "section". However, they do have a toy library once a week and a sing song, I believe, so they can't be that unused to babies. I suspect the "unqualified woman behind the desk" just took a dislike to me. She's done that to one of my friends. She fawns over the other children and mums at the sing song (which I've never been to) and finds reasons to scold my friend and tell her off about things every time she's there.

The major incident never made it onto the news. The longer I looked, the more it appeared to be a drugs and guns bust, rather than anything more serious. There were just regular forensics people around. Loads of what looked, from my bathroom window, like either heroin or cocaine stored in a box with a handgun. They'd moved the car and let the traffic back through by the time DH got back. He missed it!

So I was thinking last night that it might be the dichotomy between parenting a needy newborn and an ever more independent toddler that makes it hard for me. Emotions swinging hither and yon between the two of them. I expect it will be less so when my hormones settle down and I've had a bit more time to get used to it. The Boy kindly slept during bath time tonight and save for the usual trying to put her hands in it during nappy changing, we had no further poo issues. Unfortunately I am bloody shattered after a week of being cooped up with the pair of them. The weather seems to turn every time I'm almost ready to escape the house. I'm waiting for the distributors of my buggy to send me some decent raincovers to replace the ones that came with it, which is not dissimilar to one of these. Dreadful. I'm getting a single cover for each seat, which I think is better than an unwieldy double sized thingumy anyway. Plus the car seat adaptor for the baby was only sent out by the retailer today so I couldn't even be bothered to go shopping (very unlike me), because it's such a faff to get the carry cot in the car as well as the kids and the buggy and then get them all out again at the other end.

I did make a marvellous discovery last week though. When it's not pissing it down with rain, it's only two miles to Wood Green so it's walkable. I've always been lazy and hopped on the bus before. So two miles there and two miles back, up and down hills, whilst pushing about 40kgs of buggy and babies has to be good for me, surely. I bloody hate Wood Green, BUT the H&M there is completely fab, I just found out. How did that happen? Instead of the usual jumble-sale scenario which makes me walk straight back out the door of most Hennes branches; it's really well laid out, spacious and neat and tidy. Yey. Small things really are exciting me these days.

I had to laugh the other night. DH was making overtures towards me - complimenting how quickly I'm getting my figure back (he must be really frustrated because I'm three stone overweight still...) and generally getting frisky. Then he asked when I can get a new IUD and I said, "in about 4 weeks" and he goes, "Ah, let's just leave it til then shall we?" The thought of another accidental baby put him right off. O is the result of being "quite careful" as opposed to "bullet-proof". Not that I'd change anything for the world, but three under three would not be my idea of fun.

Ooh, nearly fell out with the HV yesterday. Wasn't even over any "advice". Just that she was sitting there with my notes in her hand, looking at me with a blue babygro-clad O in my arms, taking down details and when she asked O's name said, "Oh, I thought it was a boy you had." Yes it was, you farking cow. Just because you've never heard the name before, doesn't mean you can be rude about it. Blardy small minded people. I just nodded blithely to everything and thought, "I'll weigh O on the kitchen scales thanks. I don't need people like you poking their nose in."

The midwife signed us off today and her colleague, who has been doing an orientation for the last while, is really broody. TI said she was in the wrong job if she was trying to be un-broody and my midwife said that usually it's a turn off to having kids, because you see women at their worst right after the birth, with eye bags down to their knees and crying because they can't cope and then she goes, "But I shouldn't have brought her here with me. You're disgustingly together every time we come. It's no wonder she wants to have a baby." Nice to know I can fool some people anyway. Told them they should try calling round at bathtime to see if they feel the same way.

twelveyeargap · 22/08/2008 21:51

Cross posts Lupins. I'm really sorry about your Dad. What's wrong with him?

SKYTVADDICT · 22/08/2008 22:20

So sorry to hear about your Das Lups.

I've not been around much. Four kids is blardy hard work even when you are not supposed to be doing much!

DP went back to work and my mum has been every day but I am still shattered. Have been uniform shopping today, after visiting the hospital again with DD2. She now has a walking plaster for 3 weeks when it should come off.

L has been asleep most of the day and not fed since 7pm - do I wake him now or just go to bed and see what happens. I haven't woken him yet (always used to do with C) but I can't see a very good night ahead.

C threw up spectacularly (sp?) in the car earlier and I have just remembered we haven't cleaned car seat yet - bound to stink the car out by tomorrow!

L put on 14oz in one week so b/f going well so far .

I am feeling so very tired I have better get me and the DDs to bed

twelveyeargap · 22/08/2008 22:27

14oz in a week! What exactly is coming out of yer boobs?

Sorry you're not getting the rest you need.

Hey, SOH, are you watching QI? It's particularly funny this evening!

Lupins71 · 23/08/2008 09:13

SKY blimey thats some going 14oz, stop drinking miracle gro!!! Hope C is feeling better soon, fingers crossed we both get some much needed sleep very soon

TYG the bloody cheek of the HV, we had a very similar thing when we had our house fire - there I am in my pj's with pink babygro baby in pink grobag and blanket and firebloke goes eeer love you and the little lad get in the cab, grrrrrrr

My dad apparently has lung cancer and has told my mum he has 12-18 months, I was pretty upset when she 1st told me but now I am going to wait for the other test results before I resign myself to the truth, he as also said he wont take any treatment

DP has viral infection and spent all day in bed yesterday he still isnt up today, I really feel like Ishould be more sympathetic but my heart is so lacking any entusiasm towards him atm he is just doing my head in - I think he knows this too, he did ask me the other day if I was going to trade him in and I said no - I was just getting rid of him!!

I have asked my uncle to get onto the solicitor to see is there is any way of an advance and it looks like there may well be which would be a real god send

DD as had an eye infection some sort of allergic hayfeverish thingy, she just has to have some syrup

DS has 1st jab the other day and reacted with a foul mood and really off colour for almost a week

Haave a lovely w/e all will chat soon hugs to you all xxx

ShowOfHands · 23/08/2008 09:47

Lups, I am so sorry my lovely. Please let us know how things are in a few days if you are able. Anything you need?

I'm unspeakably cross at the Olympics today so will attempt to distract myself with some lovely poetry...

Heard a carol, mournful, holy,
Chanted loudly, chanted lowly,
Till her blood was frozen slowly,
And her eyes were darkened wholly,
Turn'd to tower'd Camelot.
For ere she reach'd upon the tide
The first house by the water-side,
Singing in her song she died,
The Lady of Shalott

I adore it, just adore it. I wrote an essay on it as an undergraduate and ended up being able to recite the entire thing. It's beautiful. I also had a great love affair with Christina Rossetti's Goblin Market at he same time. M loves it too although I must point out that I don't read it to her for the moral lesson it contains (as was originally intended), it has a wonderful cadence. She finds it mesmerising. TYG, I am in awe of anybody who has a newborn and a 15 month old. The idea of a baby as well as M makes me want to cry. I think it's the conflict between the two separate bundle of needs that is the hardest, you're right. The calm, on-demand, physical closeness needed by a newborn and the structured, independent chaos craved by a toddler. It all equals hard work. I think you must be doing crazily well to even post something that lengthy. My hv turned up after the birth and said 'Mathilda, that's unusual for a boy'. Still says she's a boy in her red book. I was 3 days post section though so I just stared blankly at her, blankly at the baby and went back to mainlining gingerbread.

QI is the highlight of my Friday evening. That's worrying, no? Even more worrying is Mock The Week being the highlight of my Thursday evening. I don't watch much else though. I tried to get into that Tudors thing and it was dire.

Sky, M put on that much a week and look what happened. 14 kilos she weighs. 14 kilos. You sound like you're doing really well. Start lifting weights now. You'll need the muscles I warn you. TMAM'll tell you, they just keep growing...

This weekend it's 2 years since M was conceived. Which you all really wanted to know I'm sure. DH thinks we should mark the occasion by making another. He is wrong. And has been told. How does anybody ever have more.

Although, we could call it Araminta.

Nah, no way.