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Circumcising boys - has anyone got experience of this?

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Marty8542 · 22/09/2014 21:43

Hello all,
My husband and I have recently returned from the US, where our first son was born. As is very common in the States, our son was circumcised as a newborn, as a matter of routine.
We now have a second boy on the way, and he will be born in London. I just found out today that if we wanted our son to be circumcised, we'd have to arrange this ourselves and get it done privately on an outpatient basis. I've done a little looking online and can see that there are a few private clinics that offer newborn circumcision to parents who chose this for their sons.
Before I decide on where and when to get this done for our second son, does anyone have any experience or suggestions as to how best to chose which clinic, which method, at how many days old, etc?

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NerfHerder · 22/09/2014 22:43

OP, are you against FGM?
How can you not see that circumcising boys is just as bad?

SuburbanRhonda · 22/09/2014 22:44

Of course you don't have a problem with it devora.

No one is threatening to cut your genitals, are they?

gamerchick · 22/09/2014 22:45

Look OP as It's pretty obvious you've posted for an argument but in the interests of face value.

If you want to mutilate your son then organise and pay for it yourself. If you can't be arsed to teach your child how to clean himself then organise and pay for it yourself.

There no point in bickering on here where the practise is alien to the vast majority.

gamerchick · 22/09/2014 22:48

And the cleaning argument really perplexes me.. I can only imagine how many dirty dicks there are being shoved in all sorts of holes because the men are under this illusion that they don't have to wash much Hmm

SuburbanRhonda · 22/09/2014 22:49

Agree, gamer.

And why the OP has convinced herself that her son will be incapable of washing his own penis as an adult is bewildering.

Anotheronesoon · 22/09/2014 22:49

If you had a girl would you circumsize her? Poor baby. I worked at a private clinic where this was done. I have never in my 13 years of paediatric nursing heard tiny babies scream so hard. Of course by the time we handed them back to their parents they had slightly calmed down. I'm sure if parents could see their babies subjected to that mutilation they would not do it. I didn't last long in that nursing post! Neonatal medicine has for a long time operated on the understanding that babies feel pain and upset. It's a pity these private doctors seem to ignore this and parents continue to subject their children male and female to this unnecessary procedure. Shame on you.

Marty8542 · 22/09/2014 22:52

Wow Rhonda, and a bunch of others of you, you are tedious. I think you need to be a bit more cosmopolitan and culturally with it in your outlook, and show a bit more respect.
If you disagree with circumcision, as you clearly do, then that's fine, we'll agree to differ. But I think you need to realise that I have no interest in being converted to your way of thinking, and have no intention of converting you to my way of thinking. But I do think your hyena pack hounding is somewhat bullying and pointless. You are basically hijacking the thread for your own purpose.
Well here you are. Rant away all you like.

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PenguinsIsSleepDeprived · 22/09/2014 22:54

Cosmopolitan and culturally with it. Or accepting of mutilating a baby's genitals.

Same difference really. Hmm

FoxSticks · 22/09/2014 22:55

A bit more cosmopolitan? Confused. Yep we are all just a bunch of bumpkins over in the UK!

ItsNotEasyBeingGreen · 22/09/2014 22:59

you are tedious...

Maybe but I'd rather be tedious than be responsible for the mutiliation of a baby. I really am hiding this thread now. Because I believe you have started this thread to have an argument, you are getting more absurd with every post. I'm not even convinced you have children if I'm being honest.

As a previous poster said. Try google, it's not hard to google, I'm sure you can manage it. Maybe look while you're there for the reasons circumcision is not such a good idea.

SuburbanRhonda · 22/09/2014 22:59

OP, please explain what is "cosmopolitan" about cutting a baby's genitals for no sound medical reason.

Do you think FGM is also cosmopolitan?

Genuinely interested.

ravenAK · 22/09/2014 23:00

Google does reviews.

If you actually wanted the opinion of randoms on t'internet on where's good for genital mutilation in London.

onelastfling · 22/09/2014 23:00

New born baby boys are perfectly formed. Why would you want to chop something off, that their bodies are meant to have?
If boys weren't meant to have foreskins, they would be born WITHOUT them.

Unless it's for medical reasons, It's a form of male genital mutilation.

ElephantsNeverForgive · 22/09/2014 23:01

My DF is Jewish, she wants to bring up her DSS in her faith (her DH isn't Jewish, but respects her faith is very important to her).

He was circumcised as a tiny baby (properly by a doctor), but had complications afterwards.

She says she got really icy disapproving looks in A&E until they found an African doctor who clearly came from a culture where circumcision was normal.

I don't approve of circumcision, but I utterly respect my DFs desire to pass on the family traditions that have sustained her through grief and mental illness.

ElephantsNeverForgive · 22/09/2014 23:02

DS not DSS

SuburbanRhonda · 22/09/2014 23:03

Are you actually saying your friend found the thought of mutilating her baby comforting, elephants?

Confused
usualnamechanger · 22/09/2014 23:05

You need to contact your local synagogue and look for a mohel who is a doctor too. Get one with lots of years experience even if it's more expensive. There is a risk of bleeding so you need to be able to get to the hospital ASAP .

sunflower49 · 22/09/2014 23:05

Cutting a baby's most sensitive area is barbaric-they scream in pain and shock when It's done.

I'd rather teach my son to wash than chop the end of his penis off, thanks.

Wait until he's older and can make the decision for himself. Babies are born perfect, they don't need bits of them chopping off 'because other people in the family do it'.

wingcommandergallic · 22/09/2014 23:06

Cosmopolitan and cultural tolerance has its boundaries. Genital mutilation happens to be the other side of that boundary.

For decades FGM has been tolerated because of cultural ignorance but authorities are finally doing something to stop it.

The only experience of circumcision people in the UK will have is medical or religious.

Just out of curiosity, how do the men in your family know their penises all look the same?

SuburbanRhonda · 22/09/2014 23:07

Still interested to know whether the OP supports FGM as part of her "cosmopolitan" outlook, but somehow I don't think we'll be getting an answer to that one.

PumpkinBones · 22/09/2014 23:07

Reasons to be circumcised:

Medical as previous poster mention, as in actual abnormalities with foreskin.

Planning a career in pornography.

UpInTheAirAgain · 22/09/2014 23:09

I actually think it should be looked on a form of child abuse. After all if I decided to pull of my newborn baby's fingernail in case he got dirt under it, I would expect to be charged with that, together with the person I may have paid to do it! Although if the fingernail got infected and needed to come off medically, that would be a different matter.

Utterly absurd.

AlpacaMyBags · 22/09/2014 23:12

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OscarWinningActress · 22/09/2014 23:13

I don't know about religious or ritual type circumcision but the routine, newborn American kind is done using a local anaesthetic. It's performed in the doctor's office or the hospital, it takes about two minutes and there's no 'chopping off' of anything and no blood. It's a little bit of skin that gets pushed back. My babies were more distressed by their infant vaccines than they were by circumcision. There is SO much silliness on here, simply because it's 'unknown' in the UK but there are millions of circumcised males living happy, healthy lives, both physically and sexually in different parts of the world. DH thinks it's hilarious that MN thinks his Mom 'mutilated' him. He's too pretty happy with his penis Grin.

And of course it's cleaner. You don't have to do anything to a circumcised penis.

onelastfling · 22/09/2014 23:13

Those babies must be in agony having it done, but can't do anything about it. We're not talking about having a needle stuck in them, ie ear piercing, this is an actual piece of skin being sliced off!
Please somebody medical come on here and tell me they anesthetize the area first Sad