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[HazleNutt]

It's time to move to Post-Natal clubs.

[Alexandra6]

She's finally asleep! She's on me, I'm in the most uncomfy position ever, have an itch on my ankle I can't reach, am terrified to move or even reach for the tv remote and can't sleep like this...but the main thing is she's asleep and not crying at last! Can someone please come and switch my tv on and bring me a strong drink and chocolate!

[HazleNutt]

wow alex that must be so incredibly tough! Hope DH came home soon after that to scratch your ankle.

V only woke up once last night. Whereas I woke up every 2 hours anyway because I'm so used to it already

[Alexandra6]

He got home at 3.30am - but don't worry I wasn't still in the same position staring at my ankle manically! I put S down in her babybay around midnight and she slept until 2.15, then we were up for a couple of hours as she had a feed and fell straight to sleep on me but I could hear wind in her and see it on her face so she woke up as I was trying to gently wind. I've had about 4.5 hours sleep, hoping for more after this feed if I can get her down to sleep again.

Bet poor DH is going to have a rough day at work today! He changed from his suit into a t-shirt when he got in and I watched him putting it on twice, realising it was back to front each time with a frown, and then giving up and passing out. Tricky things, t-shirts

[MotherOfCleo]

These babies are tiny little sleep stealers....well apart from V who was a very good boy. H had 4 good nights of one wake up a night and an inital sleep anywhere from 4 an a half to 6 hours, the last two nights hes been back to waking every 2 hours, its like torture! It's made worse by the fact I know he can sleep for 6 hours, I'm so glad its Friday as that means my OH does his one night duty of the week tonight and I actually get to try and sleep.

[ZombiesAreClammyDodgers]

cavort, mother, janey - I'm well, thanks! Have a 5 mo dd. Long story short, pregnancy went great, birth was horrific, but I'm up for doing that again!
Sleep- ah.. There are days and there are days..

[ZombiesAreClammyDodgers]

mother do you have twins? Respect..

[HazleNutt]

V's room has been wallpapered and we'll be assembling the furniture this weekend, hopefully bed will be delivered soon as well. He does always sleep the best in the beginning of the night, when we're not in the bedroom yet, so maybe his own room will improve the sleep as well?

[janey1234]

Hopefully hazle, that's exactly what happened to M after a few nights of hell .

He slept well again last night but woke up at 6am full of the joys of bloody spring, laughing and screaming. Cute, but far too early.

Alex, loving your DH. He's hilarious when drunk

Zombies - horrific birth? I'm sorry Still, impressive you'd be prepared to go through it again! TTC #2 any time soon? I've got to wait 12 months due to c section, and then am getting married, so having to wait until sept to try again...

[ZombiesAreClammyDodgers]

Heck no that shop is shut for now though normal service may resume soon!
I am hoping to start TTC again end of the year, maybe beginning of next year. Not sure DH is exactly on board yet not sure he's gotten over the sights and sounds last time round

[HazleNutt]

zombies we have a secret Facebook group if you would like to share the photos of your DD. My DH is broody as hell, whereas like you, I'm not that enthusiastic about doing the labour part again. Even though mine would probably be considered a good one would have bene, if the effing epidural had worked

[Alexandra6]

Hi zombies we haven't met but congrats on your baby! I'm thinking of ttc again in Sept when my baby is 10 months old, for a few reasons (struggled to conceive before, DH is 38, he's keen on another, good to do the baby stage in one go). I won't be ready for the newborn stage again but not sure I ever will be!

[BlearyeyedLol]

Hi zombies I don't think we've met. I'm lol. I took a break off mn at the beginning of pg but been back ever since. If you want to join our fb group pm me your full name and I will add you
Another shocker last night. L is definitely jet lagged and does not want to be alone. Brought her to my bed at 4 and she then slept until 9:30. Is it a horrible thing to let her do that??

[Alexandra6]

lol was talking to a friend about that over lunch yesterday and she let hers (now 1.5 and 4) sleep in with them sometimes - she thinks do what it takes to get sleep instead of stressing about things being "wrong". Interested to hear what other people think. My MIL was also saying she took DH's dummy off him at 2 and he cried and was so upset for days - she did it because she thought it was "wrong" but looking back she wishes she'd just let him have it as he only used it at night and at the end of the day, who else sees or cares. Although I did read a good idea on here the other day about sending the dummy off to the 'dummy fairy' and a gift and certificate comes back.

[HazleNutt]

lol, baby sleeping, you happy, baby happy - does not sound like a horrible thing in any way.

[Cavort]

Lol of course it's not horrible! Just do whatever the hell you need to do to get yourself enough sleep!

Zombies we need details! Name, DOB, weight, picture, labour/birth story are we talking properly horrific or just averagely horrific as is the typical nature of most births?

Alex you are so nice feeling sorry for your DH at work with a hangover when you probably don't feel much better yourself!

Hazle that's good news on V's sleeping... not so good that you kept waking up! I am the same though, if E treats me to a good night and doesn't wake up until late (like last night, 4.30) I am usually awake waiting for her to wake up.

[janey1234]

Agreed lol. Can't tell you how many times I've brought M back in with me into bed to get him back to sleep. Whatever works for you both is the right thing to do!

[HazleNutt]

Also, I have been using some aromatherapy oils in bedroom in the past couple of nights when he has slept better. Might be a coincidence, of course, but in any case it smells really nice. This one, if anybody wants to give it a try (I don't have the diffuser, just put a few drops here and there):
www.amazon.co.uk/Pranar%C3%B4m-Nature-Prana-Mixture-Diffuser/dp/B009UU5XKI/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1391173696&sr=8-7&keywords=pranarom&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

[MotherOfCleo]

zombies twins? god no, just the one is enough at the moment

I agree with cav we need full gory details! Congrats on your little girl, hope you'll join the fb group so we can see some pics

[ZombiesAreClammyDodgers]

Thanks! Will pm my name to you.
Do you guys speak there too or only share pics?

[Alexandra6]

Thanks hazle I'm going to order some, I like trying things like that (I'm into hippy shit as janey says)

[Cavort]

I am not into hippy shit, but I am so knackered even if you said you had practiced satanic rituals or voodoo and it had worked in getting the baby to sleep better I would be up for giving it a whirl. I might order some, certainly won't do any harm.

Zombies the FB group tends to be a bit of both.

[janey1234]

You do indeed love hippy shit Alex, but I'd happily give that a go! M's room still has a vague smell of new carpet, even though it was fitted eight months ago, and worst case it might shift that. Best case more sleep! Thanks for the tip hazle.

Alex I totally have the taste for wine now having spent a lovely afternoon in the pub with you. Given DP's train is delayed, do we think it's acceptable or unacceptable to start on the wine without him, once M is in bed? I fear I will be straying into bad mum territory, but it is a Friday and in the old days I would have already drunk a bottle of wine in my lunch break

[janey1234]

Oh and M is definitely a keeno - need to teach him to play hard to get. Not sure grabbing a girl's face is the way to woo her. Apologies again to S!

[Alexandra6]

I've had another glass of wine next to me since I got in, didn't occur to be that was bad mum behaviour oops DH is home though now to help although not sure how helpful he'll actually be with his hangover! Sophia is overtired but won't nap, hoping she drifts off soon so we can relax!

[HazleNutt]

DH out here as well and I'm certainly having my Friday wine (we try not to drink during the week, so I've been missing my old friend Bordeaux).