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StuntNun · 18/03/2013 08:40

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1707618-November-2012-The-thread-where-it-all-starts-to-get-easier-Pretty-please

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PetiteRaleuse · 21/03/2013 13:37

But isn't that wrong pig that they should have that constraint? GPs are great but they can't be great at everything, and I am sure they know that. But having to withhold care, or pain relief in case of labour, for financial reasons sucks. I fact it is wrong that they have to worry about so much finance and paperwork in general - I don't think anyone becomes a doctor to have to play God when deciding if a patient should get specialist care.

PurplePidjin · 21/03/2013 13:37
Brockle · 21/03/2013 13:42

I would say he was number 3 bp Smile. I agree PR it would be nice to spk to someone who specialised in children. I have never had an appointment like that were the knowledge is so sketchy that you feel better off checking mumsnet Smile I think I will see the hv's next week. thanks ladies Smile

BigPigLittlePig · 21/03/2013 13:52

I know when I worked in a gps, every 2 months there was a meeting where the number of referrals to different specialities were discussed. One month, the number was "too high" - now part of that, surely, should be that the patients need to be seen by a specialist, rather than inappropriate referrals - but the practice managers advice was simply to cut down on referrals I didn't listen one jot

It's part of the reason why I like working in a hospital - there seems to be less of an obsession with budgets/referral numbers, probably because we're not run as a business in the way that GPs practices are.

Speaking of which, we're off for jabs Sad

kissyfur · 21/03/2013 13:56

I would like to extend sweary Wednesday too please

Today I have fucking had enough! I am so fed up of trying to work out what is wrong with LO, why she is always screaming, why she won't feed. I'm fed up of health professionals who don't know enough about what they should know about. I can't stand the sound of my own voice anymore, telling DD1 to be quiet so I can try and feed LO, who stops feeding at the slightest noise, then screams and screams. I don't know what the solution is anymore and i just want to run away from the constant noise. This isn't fair on DD1, and LO seems so unhappy.

Sorry totally me me me but I had to get that off my chest

I updated the other thread about how my appt went with the tongue tie lady today, incase anyone is interested.

Brockle · 21/03/2013 14:03

I'm listening to the foo fighters and cooking a spaghetti bol. whilst Y sleeps. does wonders for the mood Smile I recommend it.

PurplePidjin · 21/03/2013 14:07

PR my GP only has 72 (of 10 or so) GPs who do 6/8 week checks. As a woman of child-bearing age, one is my assigned Dr although i haven't always seen her. She invariably runs 30+ minutes late because she doesn't give a flying fuck about appointment times etc. When i went for my implant i was struggling and R was out of sorts so she made me come back after morning surgery and saw us instead of a lunch break.

I'm still waiting for that phone call from the hv, however Hmm

When i get stabilised i might write to the practice manager with all this. Complain about the shit hv and fulsome praise for my GP...

I am thankful for apple danishes and crochet chats with friends. And dp who is going to make chilli non carne for tea tonight.

PurplePidjin · 21/03/2013 14:07

72?? Wtf?? 2 out of 10 gp's at the surgery!

PetiteRaleuse · 21/03/2013 14:16

That's great. I know it's a PITA when they run late but I have always been grateful when I have needed a bit more time with a Dr and not been rushed out.

My OBGYN is always running late as he gets called out to EMCS or women getting to the end stage of labour and needing intervention. I used to sit there waiting and seething but since my EMCS I have not minded waiting an hour, or even, on one occasion three hours. During my EMCS I thought about all the women waiting for him to come back and figured that I would never complain again.

My former GP in France also takes masses of time with patients. He doesn't have an appointment system you just go and wait. And wait. And you arrive and the waiting room is empty and you think yay, it'll be nice and quick. Nope. An hour later he finshes with the patient who was in there when you arrive, and because he takes his time and takes the time to listen and explain he picks up on stuff that someone in a hurry wouldn't necessarily notice.

At my mum's practice I think they have 10 minute slots. It's not long enough for a lot of cases. I'm not blaming the GPs there are just not enough of them and not enough resources.

Passmethecrisps · 21/03/2013 14:28

I really like my GP practice. It is on the uni campus so almost all patients are students. I wonder if because of this they are more all the ball and just seem to know what's what. I remember going for a consultation about contraception years ago and being given a huge range of options, pros and cons etc etc. Cosmopolitan at the time were running a big campaign about the poor service young women get with regard to contraceptive options. It made me realise how lucky I was. My GP isn't perfect but he certainly has no problem admitting he doesn't know things. When we took P in when her reflux was just kicking off his response was perfect. He didn't know what was wrong, he had some ideas but she was a tiny baby and was clearly poorly so straight to hospital. The OH GP we saw the night before said she had colic.

Years ago I went in with an eye infection. I told GP that I had googled it and thought I had X. He asked what site I used, agreed that it was a good one and agreed with my own diagnosis.

I think I drive him mental now though.

Pikz · 21/03/2013 14:45

Brockle get daktarin, we went through 2 lots of nystatin which did nothing. Also sterilise everything with Milton, the steam steriliser doesn't kill it.

LO really on mend now, back to 8oz bottles and laughing. I am shattered. Think his illness drained my reserves.

Contradictionincarnate · 21/03/2013 14:48

poor kissy I can only read that far back on train ...I have escaped!! dd is with mil time for retail therapy! ...not that I have the cash!!
brockle that sounds fab! they have to sleep first though!!
have to enjoy these precious moments!! freedom or cooking!

Kyzordz · 21/03/2013 15:03

Oh kissy sounds like you're at the end of your tether :( I wish I had something useful to say :( will hunt out the TT thread if e gives me a minute!

BigPigLittlePig · 21/03/2013 15:08

I can't stop eating mini eggs.

PetiteRaleuse · 21/03/2013 15:44

Mini eggs Envy so unfair.

kissy hugs

PetiteRaleuse · 21/03/2013 15:45

Bloody France. No mini eggs here.

ValiumQueen · 21/03/2013 16:09

kissy hugs x I will pop over to the thread shortly x

Well, I kept a few people waiting in clinic today I can tell you! I saw HV and told her my concerns and theories and what I wanted. Last week we had agreed that if J was not better on formula she would give me the lactose free stuff. Today she said she could not prescribe this, nor could the GP, and I would need to see the dietician for a specialist px. She does not think he has intolerance or anything and showed me the NHS chart for diagnosis. Vomiting and weight loss was the only symptoms he was missing. I said I was not happy, and would ask the GP, so I did. She had no clue about lip tie or lactose overload.

The GP also had no idea about lactose overload or lip tie. He listened to his chest on my request. It was clear as I thought. He thinks cough and wheeze are because J drinks his milk fast and he is used to a slower boob. He was very kind, and was clearly concerned about my mental health and exhaustion. Part of me was wondering if the men in white coats would come bursting in, and I said to him I was not a neurotic mother, just concerned for my child, and not wanting to leave it any longer, having done what the HV said.

He asked how I felt about stopping feeding and was very caring. He wants me to see HV weekly as they are the experts. He has referred to dietician, and given me a px for lactose free formula, but wants me to keep an open mind.

ValiumQueen · 21/03/2013 16:22

I feel they gave me the px to make me happy. Not sure I care tbh. I was open and honest, saying I was sad about stopping feeding, and utterly shattered after 5 months with no sleep. GP said my research differed from his knowledge, which was a diplomatic way of saying it I thought. He acknowledged I was an experienced mum and knew J best. He said he saw a happy, well fed baby. I said he did not see him at 2am after he has been screaming for 1.5 hours.

I have a px for 2 small tins of SMA LA or sommat.

PurplePidjin · 21/03/2013 16:25

Are you pleased with that, VQ?

TheDetective · 21/03/2013 16:44

I was about to go all batshit then til I read they gave you the px VQ!

I'm glad you stood your ground.

I saw the woman with kids! consultant this afternoon and told her the whole tale. She told me that I did not need her skills as I had done absolutely everything they would have suggested. She said I clearly knew what I was doing thank fuck for YW eh? and that if it was working, stick with it. She bought up CMPI before I did. She has given me a prescription for formula. It is being delivered tonight. O has reverted back to his usual games so if by the morning he is still the same, we will start it. She said to keep with the lactose free unless problems begin. She thinks he has an intolerance where as I still don't think it is. But she has given us the prescription so we don't have to piss around with the GP if it comes to it.

Pleased that I am doing the right things for O. Not so pleased that he is fussing abs going long times between feeds and reducing the amounts again. Angry He has been on the LF for a week now. Damn it.

ValiumQueen · 21/03/2013 16:45

Not really pp but it seems my experience is pretty typical. I know he does not have a major allergy, but surely if formula makes a baby wheeze and cough, makes their skin break down and gives them abdominal discomfort affecting their sleep, then that is worth treating?

Does anyone else's baby wheeze and cough after a bottle, with a compounding effect? Lasting for hours after? Am I being neurotic? Should I admit myself? (Only half joking on the last one)

Clarella · 21/03/2013 16:52

well done vq. no you're not imagining it. I wish I could line you all up at the door of the amazing lactation specialist I saw today in her home while poorly for free.

I'm taking the no dairy thing more seriously now after poo pooing it.

thankful for Facebook and LLL

TheDetective · 21/03/2013 16:52

Yes, he coughs with feeds. And after. Not for too long but he does. Also he is always snuffly. Snotty nose but no cold.

PurplePidjin · 21/03/2013 16:54

If you were doing it on purpose they'd call it abuse Angry in fact, withholding medicine and treatment is abuse under the UN Rights of the Child Angry

TheDetective · 21/03/2013 16:55

I notice while me and VQ have been busy this afternoon - it has been quiet!! Shock