January 2013 Part Two: Coos and smiles but not always so much sleep...

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Our first thread has almost finished so I thought we'd need a new one!

Am exactly the same, pascha. A natural hourglass, but my tummy is squishy after 2 babes in quick succession. At least it's still somewhat flat. Just need to lose the flab and tone and it'll be fine. I hope.

The leggings are stretchy and forgiving on my figure at the moment, ESP with a long vest over the bum and a top over that for some feeding modesty.

I really rate the wonder weeks. Have the book and app and it's spot on.

Dd went to bed at 9:30. She won't go to sleep for the night unless I'm on our room in bed feeding her ... So tried earlier tonight and she went. Know this probably means a second middle of the night feed, but it's a step toward getting our evenings back :)

I cant get him to like peepo yet :'( he hates his vest and clothes going over his face so he tends to wince like we are mistreating him if we play peepo.

Im still living in leggings too pascha. Darent even try pre preggo jeans, tops are fine though and i finally got a decent nursing bra (bravissimo seamless one) instead of wearing those croptop ones... Dp said my boobs looked a lot perkier... Im only 30 (well 31) how dare my boobs look not perky

Also at figleaves! Bastards!

I will get it sorted Bunty. I went for the Panache Sophie bra in the end. Put everything front and centre just where it should be . I really wanted the Anita underwired bra but it fit really badly on me and doesn't go small enough in the back anyway so they went straight back.

I don't actually own any leggings that I could wear outside the house. Maybe I should just invest in some?

I'm killing time on here in the living room with Daniel asleep on the sofa next to me to give DH a head start on sleep as he is up at 6am for work. I'll give it another half an hour and if Daniel stays asleep I think it will be safe to go up.

creepy maybe 4 or 5 days? she was all smiles this afternoon but still had a couple of meltdowns.

birdies we are getting squeaks and squeals and oohs here too.

lora try playing peek a boo with something very light and translucent, I use a summery scarf.

First awakening at 3am, so that's 6hours between feeds - longer than I thought it would be, as she usually snacks from 6pm to 11pm. Fingers crossed!

Have ordered my wonderfit jeans, some maternity vests (for the extra stretchiness to pull for feeding) and black leggings from asda. I am holding out hope they are indeed wondrous. Will report back when I pick them up after Tuesday!

pascha I still have the Sophie from DS - it's a great bra. I do love my Anita, though, although I currently have it on the tightest hooks as well . Usually a 32hh, and had to get a 34hh, and pull it on the tightest setting, and it still doesn't fit. Think proper bras and a bra conversion kit may meet soon (courtesy of DMIL as I am shit with a needle )

I 100% recommend leggings for use outside of the house. I am now a veritable connoisseur. I even have patterned ones - the shame. They're really nice though. They're my going somewhere leggings.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen ...

Bunty check out the Emma Jane longline feeding vest, great to go over leggings.

Also Bunty how much is your dd drinking when you give ebm bottle?

I don't think my little madam is ever going to have a long sleep, she is like clockwork 8-11,11-3,3-5 (don't feed at five but won't settle in crib so take her in with me to snooze until 6.30/7

Have a good day all

Thanks lost

Madam would happily eat until she's sick, but if she's just getting a top up if I'm nipping out for an hour I'll leave 2oz. If I was leaving a full feed I'd leave 3 I think. Kellymom has an expressed milk calculator which you po on how many times they eat and it'll tell you roughly what they need for a feed of expressed, including minimums, maximums and averages.

They need about 24oz per day breastmilk. So, eating 8 times a day, that's about 3oz per feed.

I freeze in 2oz bags so there's less chance of waste.

Bunty.. Patterned leggings?

Dp has officially pist me off. He doesnt help if its passed his bedtime (after ten) or even before 8am. He as done ONE night feed in ten weeks no excuses cos dexter has bottles at night. He cant even wash the bottle properly i went to get one out the steriliser and they had milk on the teats and in the bottles! His excuse for letting him cry this morning when i went loo was 'well i dont have any milk' i said all hre needed was comforting and picking up ffs . Cos he stops crying cos he knows hes going to get some dinz. Im getting beyond hacked off with him and i dont know how to make him help. Its not because im tired that im worked up cos dexters started sleeping like a dream. Tips welcomed. May have a welll behaved baby but i certainly dont have a well behaved d-sodding-p

These ones. They're lovely, honestly!

I am 5'8 and a wobbly ATM size 16 14, and they're really flattering.

DH is also rather annoying at times. Dd was sick yesterday, requiring an outfit change. I handed him the baby, the clothes and a nappy, whilst I put away things in her room. I got shouted through as she was hungry. As I explained with a face - I wanted him to change her whilst input things away, as when I came through all of 2 mins later, I could then feed her and she would sleep. I didn't want to waken her to change, or have her sleeping in sicky clothes.

He also moans about being a waiter if I ask for a drink whilst I'm feeding (what do you do when I'm not here blah blah blah), and gets a flea in his ear for that too. I can't remember him being so bloody annoying with DS.

However, on the whole he's a good un. I think men are just a bit clueless tbh.

He still says I'm gorgeous, so he gets forgiven for a lot ;)

Here's hoping we only have a couple of grumpy days left too. She's having quite restless sleep at the moment too, grunting and hitting the sides of her crib. All this while she's fast asleep.

Ah the 'what would you do if I wasn't here' pisses me right off! My DH is also under the impression he can't comfort Nancy because he can't feed her. If he got off his phone for 5 minutes it might work! He is good most if the time though, he's been the chef and shopper for 8 weeks. But yes, men are useless!

Creepy I'd stopped doing the skin to skin but yes I'll try it when DS is grumpy n restless on an evening. His colic is much more controlled now thanks to comfort milk and infacol but he's still very grumpy 5-8 time on an evening

another one here with an annoying dp. on top of the crimes listed, he counts time spent bfing as sitting down doing nothing.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds the Anita bra sizing odd. I bought one off eBay and it didn't fit at all. I ended up getting a panache Sophie which is lovely but I miss underwires.

Creepy i tell dp he is best to comfort ivy as i smel of milk and thats not necesarily what she needs! Generally he is quite good but he knows as he works nights he doesn't get the crap sleep.

Right these wonder weeks is there 1 at 11 weeks? Ivy sleep has gone to pot the last couple of days and she has been cranky too. Now properly asleep after being a nuisance all night she was quite smiley while we were getting ready for school run tho.

House still bloody cold, am fed up now :(

apple there is a wonder week around about 11 1/2 weeks 'the world DF smooth transitions' iirc.

bunty I would look horrendous in those leggings. You must have lovely long slim legs!

I don't feel tired today, hooray! Am still wearing X in the day though, still haven't solved that one.

bunty would you bother buying the wonder weeks book if DD is 11.5 weeks, is it worth it now?

DH is annoyed whenever he sees me on my iPad. Which in fairness, is quite a lot. But still, it's not as if the rest of the time I'm sat doing nothing. He does do his fair share though as well as working. But when we're both tired we're pretty horrible to each other. Yesterday I told him i wanted to divorce him. Today Im not tired so I love him again

Thanks Bunty just googled. It says to work from due date? But that only makes her 8 weeks!? I did see there was 1 at 8 weeks though so maybe thats our problem

Birdies dh says same about me on phone but its only really when i am sat feeding

I wish, birdies! maybe I am deluding myself ;) DS calls them my jammies

Tbh, if you have the app, I don't think you need the book. I have both, but have only looked at the app this time round as its good to have an at your finger tip reference to see if there's a reason they're being grumpy toads not themselves.

apples I reckon it could be the 8 week one then!

X doesn't like being flat on the floor for tummy time so I've discovered this works really well - worth a try if any of your babies don't like it much either (you just pop them on and hold leggies like a wheel barrow and rock back and forth!). It'll be good for when they start crawling too, so lots of uses.

www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/toys_and_nursery/baby_and_preschool/124152137_elc_follow_me_farm_rolling_toy.html?hnav=4294903839

Anyone else got any good buys? Hmm I know that wont help me reduce iPad and spending time but I love a bit of online shopping

Oops, link should work now

www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/toys_and_nursery/baby_and_preschool/124152137_elc_follow_me_farm_rolling_toy.html?hnav=4294903839

Yes I noticed that Birdies

Bunty those leggings are truly revolting. If you look good in them you must look stunning in anything else

My latest buy was this to line the carseat but its so pretty I haven't got it as far as the car yet. Dan just falls straight to sleep in it.

Sorted out the Figleaves thing. Forgot that while I sent back five bras, I ordered four more in another couple of styles and a second Panache Sophie and the difference is £12. Oops. Oh well, at least I got the email explaining before I roared at some poor customer service bod on the phone

DH has noticed as well, hence his hatred of my iPad time :) Slightly more worryingly, I almost know his credit card number off by heart

Boori cotbed arrived today, am pleased, I think it was bargainous!

bunty must have a model-like figure and is just being modest. I could only see a Rita Ora-esque woman looking lovely in those!!

apple do you still have no heating in house?

Birdies ds1 had something very similar was thinking of getting one for Ivy but she seems to like tummy time but possibly only because shes the centre of attention when she does her push ups :)

Gas man finally arrived this afternoon, tinkered with boiler and we now have the luxury of hot water and heating!

Must dash Ivy bottom just made an alarming noise :(

Hahhahaha Rita ora - no!

I must look shit and people are polite ;)

Both my babies are tucked up in bed sleeping. I shall no doubt get the smug slapped off my face at 1,3,5,7 etc ... But it feels v strange ATM not to have teeny on my boob knee.