November 2012 - sleeping through yet?

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It's a hard area in the boob, think u got it from carrying LO round a shop and squashing my boob for too long

I got it! Not u obv

detective love your epic post. More please. You have got me thinking about getting a swing now, but not sure if we have anyspace for it I was actually wondering when to get the DH booth back out, DS1 loved it and O loves to be up looking around.

I don't think I know 160 people gt hope you have lots of fun.

Hope you are ok evil I think we are all thinking about you.

Just gone down to the kitchen and DH has opened the slider food cupboard and loads of tins have fallen off the back shelf (the knobbers who fitted the kitchen/landlords have put the racks in back to front so there is no backs on them and if you open too quick stuff falls off back, like I have time to take all the food out of two ceiling to floor cupboards and turn them all round. Hollow laugh) and he hasn't picked them up. Grr. He has taken my delicious shake mixer to Costa with him, presumably to put DS1s smoothie in. So I can't have my breakfast. Ad there is a big fuck off foot print on the hall tiles.

I felt cross and then remembered I have been asleep since before 9 pm last night he did do the 10:30 feed, and get up with O at 06:00, fed him, sorted out the poo, got DS1 up, sorted out a poo, gave him cereal and took them out to Costa. So I am lucky right? He is a good boy really.

Except for the tins. And the beaker. And the footprint.

Not the DH booth the DJ booth.

DJ Booth

My other Saturday morning whingy is the TMI one.

After bleeding since Christmas on Femodene I gave it up in the week after being persuaded about the mirena coil, some of you have said it is ok so I am going to give it a go. So now I have my period because I stopped the pill.

Is like a massacre.

I think this is why I have been so tired in the last 24 hours. Is like the tiredness that you get when you are first pregnant not the never sleep tiredness you get with a new baby

I have really really really had enough with bleeding and if I bleed with the coil I will just have a strop and get them to take it out.

Sorry to be a thread hog!

Some of you were chatting about weaning.i would be interested in hearing what you think. I have been invited to a talk at the Children's Centre. Not sure whether to go or not.

I know that they will push baby lead weaning as it is the current fashion. But I have a loyalty to the old fashioned start a bit earlier and take it slower. Start with baby rice add in pear, root veg and so on an then as someone said start giving them the same sort of stuff you have minus salt. I have done three like this and it worked well.

My problem with baby led weaning is are you setting a precedent that they can have whatever they fancy? They don't know what they need and that is our job as parents sure.y to bring them up and guide them. They could end up having a really limited diet if they are allowed to have what they like.

I also found using standard weaning and some relevant baby toddler cook books, they enjoyed stuff I would never have thought of or had myself.

If I go to the talk I may end up getting in a row.

What do the rest of you think?

Soph I think I prefer what seems to be the old fashioned way of doing it.
DH is a very fussy eater. So really want to mk sure LO doesn't pick this up.
I just want to know when to start. What to start with. N when to introduce new foods. May buy a recipe book?

Shall we do the guess how many ppl at my wedding game?
Keep in mind 160. Are close family n pil close friends. Also what I consider to be close family u may not lol. Ie dads cousins. Hehe.

Sophia I thought baby led weaning was more to do with the pace of when you give food, looking out for signs they are ready rather than them liking or not liking food. I could be completely wrong though. I think when they are 6 months they would eat anything. It's when they get older the trouble starts. My LO is only 14 weeks so I have a bit of time.

I am excited for the weaning to start but it also means that he's half a year old and that its the start of a new chapter and its all happening too fast already. That I'm not excited about.

Over here we follow different rules and guidelines about weaning.from about five months we start giving very basic purees. With DD1 I did carrot, courgette, pear and apple. After a month so at 6 months we started adding stuff. We didn't follow BLW (don't get me started on that). I basically pureed what we were having, but keeping her vegetarian for a couple of weeks, then introducing ham, chicken, salmon and beef. Pork came last. By 8 months she was eating lumps of soft stuff like bananas and omelette and sliced ham. By a year she was eating everything except of course for choking hazards. I never used baby rice or anything like that. Found it much easier to batch prepare and freeze portions for her. She has never touched ready made baby food, even though I have offered it on occasion.

I used an older version of this book for ideas www.amazon.co.uk/Annabel-Karmels-Complete-Toddler-Planner/dp/0091924855/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1357978863&sr=1-1

I know Annabel is considered the devil on here but I liked her.

I have nothing against some of the ideas behind BLW but can write an essay on my full opinions on it.

Hehe gt I've been to a couple of Asian weddings so I'm guessing if you are having 160 at baby event ur wedding would have been 500?! 250 each side ... That's not considered that large either ? now r you the type to have a 'large' wedding... Ok in revising my guess to 650!!!
Oh also gt do you have a local sure start centre? The one in my area has a free weaning session .

In regards to weaning, I was told by nct ppl to only start at 6 months ?! But a friend made a good point, she started weaning at 4 months when her little one showed interest in her food. Sounds quite sensible right? I mean every baby is different and develop at different rates so who the baby does not need food until 6 months?! Ok so it's not essential but if thee can and start to show interest then why not?

kissy must try unblock ASAP as mastitis is not great. As u may have seen from my yesterday post I had a complete meltdown from it.
Try putting a hot compress (warm water flannel or hot water bottle) in the area before feeding . Then massage it. then whilst feeding massage it pushing it towards to nipple. Also maybe changing latch position of baby may help. If it starts getting tender and you get a temperature the. Go to the docs immediately as it will be mastitis and you may need antibiotics to clear it.

The new antibiotics makes me feel sick. Doctor warned me about it. U was actually sick 3am in the morning .... Ah the memories of morning sickness!!

PR thanks for book suggestion. Was just about to ask if anyone had used any books!

That game didn't last long Candy ur a mind reader. Spot on 650 ppl. DH has a big family. So 250 from my side n rest was his family.

Im being very naughty DH is at work n I LO in bed . DH is very against this. At first it was a safety issue as he is a VERY deep sleeper (think pushing shoving slapping NOT waking him) n then a few of his friends were very envious of our crib sleeper as their LO won't leave the bed. So now he is paranoid LO will get into a habit if even put in our bed once. But shush. In enjoying watching him sleep.

Although i live in Essex I grew up in greenford! My parents still live there

Oh damn it- should betted money !!!

Or few packets of baby wipes :D

The book was good for ideas for us too actually. I don't know what the new version is like though.

Going to cinema and lunch with a good friend today. Grandparents on double duty. Really looking forward to my day out, going to see Les Miserables. Looking forward to it. Don't want parents to go back to Greece, wish they lived nearby.

I didn't know Anabel Karmel was the devil, I used GF ( also a friend of Satan) and Anabel Karmel mixed together and went really slowly from about 16 -20 weeks.

gt I would second that book suggestion mine is well thumbed. Her pasta book is very good as you move on as well.

I was going to use annabel Carmel book.

I understand the principles of blw but I don't understand when they start using cutlery. I also understand the idea that up to a year old they should be playing and discovering food then at 1 magically start eat three meals a day. I know it's all a gradual process but I think that while playing and discovering foods is all well and good, learning table manners etc. Is also needed.

I need to look more into it

Gill Rapley has good books on BLW. Haven't fully caught up with the thread so apologies if this is not what you are talking about.

One slidey cupboard sorted.

Periods suck. Can I get pregnant again just to stop the periods?

A bit of comfort for those that aren't breastfeeding... Remember when my boobs didn't reach my waist? Nope, me neither. I'm sure they were pert ten years ago.

So another baby and then a boob job for me then.

There's plenty of scope for playing with food and exploring without following the BLW guides. BLW is a name given to what is largely common sense (re the food) mixed with some vague pseudo pop psychology which basically puts the 'power' into baby's hands. With clever marketing it has been built up into a fashionable but ironically closed minded parenting method. Some, but of course not all, BLWers go all evangelical about it and refer to puree as mush, with a disgusted expression, conveniently forgetting that many animals chew their food for their young and that puree is really just an artificial way of doing that.

I'm going to stop now before I offend anyone. But a combination of solids and exploring and puree is how babies have been weaned for generations. And the gag reflex theory is all well and good, but the way it is reinterpreted and repeated by so many people on here is actually quite scary.

I really will stop here. It works for some people and that's great and has encouraged some mums to be brave. But rather than glorifying it with a great name it's as well to think of it as introducing bigger bits of food.

And breathe.