Dec 08 Mums - Onwards and bloody well upwards!

[Beans36]

How's this? Thought I'd just press on with it!

ola ola ola

first of all: many thanks to those who replied to my post. good to know i'm not alone, and also good to get different perspectives and ideas.

and secondly: jam got it right! fuck a duck, beans - wow, well done, congrats and all that stuff. how exciting!!! so thrilled for you - i think a third at this time might be utterly wonderful for you and your family. good luck! oh, and i also had a colonoscopy a while ago (mainly because i had started to eat beetroot and didn't realise what it did to your wee and poo - duh) and it was the first time i ever had pethidine (before i had dd1, that is) and, my, it was lovely!

aubs - i see beans isn't the only one -well done, lovely - good luck, when are you due?

and zj - how worrying for you both. i hope you get to a doctor's asap and that you know what is going on soon.

still lurking quietly...

Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck. I go and wander off to turn forty and what happens, Beans goes and gets up duffed! Well done my lovely. There is always drink to be had & excuses for waiting, but if that beautiful baby wants to come into the world, it is always the right time. Hooray.

ZJ, hope you get some reassurance soon. DH has twice had ball balls. Both times is was an infection.

Hons sorry about the poo. To be honest fresh blood down there is usually ok, it's dark old blood thats the problem.

Yes Rubes niece arrives and promptly took her to Barcelona. We are there now and just had a brilliant night out celebrating my 40. So much fun, even DH getting pick pocketed for ?40 couldnt dampen our night. Was brilliant. Clever DH found a lovely vegetarian tapas place which was super yum and did the best gin & tonics (they had a g&t menu!) Then we went for a Barcelona wander and visited places we had been to in our yoof. Then we found a great bar that did blow your head off Mojitos for ? 5!

Sorry, was the swearing too much, too many F-bombs? I blame the Mojitos.

You're not 40 are you Vag?

DD has finally mastered sitting up by herself. Does this mean she might sleep?

And we are off.

Eyebrows threaded, check.
Chin hair plucked, check.
Legs waxed, check
Sparkly dress and heels packed, check
Children read the riot act, check

Ready for THE wedding.

God im knackered already.

Wahooooo, Jam ! Have fun!
I went to a black tie do last night with new pals. Was v nice, but hard not boozing as don't know them well enough to dance when sober and was trying not to draw attention to my sobriety.
Should I be not drinking at all? I did have a glass of wine last night and will find it hard to have none at all, I suspect!!
I remember nothing about up duffery!

Blinking Nora Beans!!!! Congratulations!!! (And 37 is not old )

Back to wallowing in norovirus misery now but just logged on to lurk and saw your lovely news xxxxxx

Congrats Beans! - That didn't take long. And no, 37 is not old.... I'm 38 which is still young right? (not up duffed by any stretch - I share JJs secret fear!)

Lovely night at Lady's, with spectacular company and amazing food - yet again!
DS's birthday tomorrow. Cannot believe he is 4! x

Have a fab time Jam. I didn't realise you were taking the boys with you. Will they come to the actual "do"? Either way I hope you can really let your hair down (what is left that has not been plucked or waxed away).

Beans my take on alcohol and pregnancy is that you can drink a little. I have a glass of wine about twice a week. There was a recent study that claimed that the media wrote up as claiming that even moderate alcohol intake stunts childrens' IQs. Funnily enough I was discussing this study with a friend in a local coffee shop a few weeks back and laughing about how I would be giving birth to a simpleton when they guy at the table next door politely interrupted and announced he was the author of the study and it had been totally misrepresented in the media and we had nothing to worry about from the odd drink. I took that as a sign from above that I should continue!

Kayz that is pretty advanced on your DD to be sitting unaided. Isn't she under 6 months? Maybe her sleep was off due to a "developmental leap". I vaugely remember people suggesting that to me every time one of the DDs went all wakeful.

Sorry to hear about the norovirus Kiwi. I live in fear of it at the moment. Has your whole family had it? Nightmare.

Glad to hear that Rubes and LadyT had a lovely night together. I admit to being a little jealous.

Is your DH's scan tomorrow ZJ? There seem to be lots of comforting stories on this thread. Let us know how he gets on. Thinking of you still. Oh, and I am glad we might get to meet in London in the NY.

I hope you are still enjoying Barcelona Veg. Did the boys join you on your great birthday night out or did you get a sitter. Your FB pictures give me wanderlust.

Before I depart let me share this little nugget from totally eccentric and hard to predict DD2. Tonight, after we put her to bed, she started crying and called us back up. We both entered her room to see tears streaming down her face. DH asked her what was wrong and she said "What if when I grow up it takes so long that all the beautiful mens are already married? What if there is no lovely mens left for me because I take so long to grow???". Seriously. This is a child who has never heard me, or anyone I know, talk about this kind of thing. She has actually thought it it herself. And was properly upset about being on the shelf aged not-quite-four. Dear God what will the teenage years be like?

Aub DD will be 6 months on the 20th. So not that advanced I don't think. But it didn't make any difference to her sleep. She was still awake longer than she slept.

Oh Kayz, poor love, I feel your pain. Not fun. DD2 is up so much in the night at the moment, the thought of another fills me with horror at present! I know I'll come round though. Maybe it's something to do with being been on 20th June... although 2 years apart. Hopefully your DD will have cracked it by this age though!

ZJ, really god luck with the scan if it is tomorrow? Please let us know how it goes? Am thinking of you a lot. DH is having a full body health check through work soon and I live in fear as his family is so riddled with cancer. And I suppose recent events foe me have left me in fear or everyone's mortality!

Speaking of which, off for 24hr ECG this week. Suspect they're not going to be impressed I'm up the duff! Oops.need to cancel smear test too. Hurray! Pinhole investigation next week too. So many people poking about in me! Should try to enjoy it! Hee hee! In laws are having DDs for the night on Weds. Love them for it!

PS RT, thank you for tips on booze! Feel a bit better now. Am going to switch to decaf coffee sometime, I suspect! But not yet... Need caffeine hit with sleepless nights. Off to get frolic acid this morning! God, it's so weird. Sort of thought I wouldn't get pregnant again!

AND ZJ, reading back, my post to you doesn't sound that caring! I'm so sorry. I'm sure DH has nothing to worry about. My lovely ex had a lump in his danglies and it was a benign thing which just went on its own.
I so know what you mean about loving 95% of him if it came to having one off. A friend of our family's lost a testicle to a cricket ball when he was 17. I snogged and had a bit of a fiddle with him once and couldn't notice he only had one ball and he has gone on to father 4 kids!! I hope that doesn't sound flippant or anything, I guess I'm just trying to say try not to worry as a) I'm sure all is fine and b) if it is removed, it need have zero impact on anything!

Thinking love and good luck at you both xx

Thanks for all your good wishes re DH, you have all reassured me so much - I hadn't realised lumpy bumpy balls were so common. I have my hopes pinned on an infection, as Vag suggested, as DH has had a temperature all week like he's about to go down with man flu He is remarkably calm, and that also is making me feel better. I will update. Oh, and talking of our nether regions, the swab from my ouchy cervix has come back clear - phew. Blimey, our bits are knackered, aren't they?!

Beans I did the making one drink last thing in the first trimester with both mine and wasn't rumbled. I think the official line is no drink, but I believe in moderation. Baby will be fine

I'll cone back to everyone else later - must try to look interested in DD1s gym class. Happy birthday to Ben, and anyone else today (Tom? I must consult the list)

Ummmm. Just did another pg test and it's negative, but no period or anything. Confused. Will shut up about it soon, but any ideas?

That is very weird Beans - although I suspect you're more likely to get a false negative than positive. What made you re-test? Did something not feel quite right? Are you going to do another one?

ZJ thinking of you today. And v glad you've got the all clear up the doo dah.

T's birthday not for another week! But given the way he's acting, you'd think every day was his birthday, the entitled little sod.

Actually, could do with a bit of advice - T is being simply hideous at the moment - rude, back chatty, aggressive to B given half the chance. I feel like I spend most of my time telling him not to do stuff or punishing him for it. He's got so much anger, I don't know how to deal with it - and of course it pushes my own anger buttons so we end up screaming at each other.

He's not like this with anyone else but me, DP and B - he's sweetness and light at nursery and with other people.

Also, B has a grey front tooth (I suspect from where T has knocked him one). IT isn't hurting him and I assume the nerve is dead, but do you think I should take him to a dentist?

Aubs that is heartbreakingly sweet about DD2. DO you think she's got it from TV or something? Four year olds are so eccentric. Like Hons's DD and the rabies. Maybe we're all born mad and get socially conditioned to appear saner as we get older.

Kayz, with you on the sleep. Sadly B has been walking for over a year with no appreciable difference to nights! Hope she's just going through a phase...

Happy Birthday to Ben!

As far as I know you can't actually get a false positive but you can get a false negative. How far along are you? Could you be further than you think? Once you get past a certain point in your pregnancy tests will show up as negative anyway.

Off to wite notes LadyT style for a decent catch up, I know there is lots of say that I have not got round to doing.

Right ho

ZJ hope your dh is ok. Well done him for paying attention to his balls and for getting himself checked out. Glad your cervix is all in the clear :)

Beans I once had a Dr appoiintment that involved a finger up the bum and a vaginall swap. It was great I tell you. First appointment of the day too, bet the Dr was thrilled . Probably jsut bad piles. Hope your ECG goes well too.

Hello WG! Know what you mean on the sex front. Small children are hard, they take their toll on relationships. It gets better though. I feel so busy all the time often when dh hugs me it jsut feels like he is getting in the way. We too need to get back on track .

School talk- go with your gut. That's all you can do. Visit them, ask questions and just see what has the nicest feel. That will probably be the best choice.

Hons glad your dd is better, blood in teh nappy must have been so scary!

Rubes I'm of your date with LadyT, sounds like fun.

Jam hope the fancy pants wedding was great fun!

Vag Barcalona sounds brilliant. I must go back there at some point, not been since I was pg with ds1.

Kayz well done your dd on sitting up! Sleep will come eventually, there is a lot going on in that brain of hers.

Arti your dd is so cute! Bless her. I'm sure there will be a lovely handsome man for her to marry when she grows up.

Spot boys get a bit of a testosterone surge around this age (4-5 ish) which makes them pretty aggressive, lash out etc. They kind of act like a mixture between a toddler and a teenager. Happy days . Oh and take the grey tooth to see the dentist but it is probably fine, so long as it isnt' causing any trouble it will jsut stay in until it falls out naturally when the adult tooth comes through. They jsut leave "dead" teeth in as they act like a space saver. Ds1 has one from flinging himself off a scooter at school. I had one too. So did my father. Says a lot about my family!

Do girls get a hormonal surge like boys do? Dd is vile at the moment.

Ds2 still not sleeping and is all coughy, snotty again. Dd is coughing too and has a sore throat. She is so hoarse I'm amazed she can still speak at all.

Cocktails were great though, can't believe it has been over a week now! Oh well I'm seeing the MN lot again for cake tomorrow. I like cake. It makes all things better. Dh is going out next weekend for the rowing club christmas do, he has made arrangements to spend the night with a friend within walking distance of the pub and his uni mate who moved away recently is coming back for it so there is talk of vintage port and cheese after the meal. I suspect dh will have a sore head in teh morning . He can't get too rat arsed though because he will still be coaching rugby in the morning so will need to get back here to pick ds1 up first!

Village Christmas quiz next week. Baby sitter booked. Bring it on! The prize is always between us lot and another team so it gets a little competitive these days .

Oh and I really should sort out convincing dd to have a hair cut. She has never had one and she has a huge, thick long mane of slightly curly hair. It is beautiful of course but the child is a scarecrow, he hair never stays tied back for long and gets so tangled! I had to cut a big knot out yesterday so she now has short bits and the front that won't stay behind her ears She says she wants it really short (the same as one of my friends) when she is grown up but she doesn't want a cut now!

Oh Spot, that's tough. Poor you. I'm afraid I only have girls, so no words of wisdom from me. Although girls can be fairly bloody. Have two extra ones coming to play this afternoon. Joy.
Have left a message for a midwife to call me, so will let you know what they say. Fingers crossed I find out! Have also asked DH to bring home another test with him from work!
Indith, loving your catchup. You are v good!
I can't be any further along as last period was 6th November... Although it was pretty short lived. Hmmm. But Friday's was a digital one and said 1-2 weeks. They're pretty accurate, I think.
Right have to do pick ups. DD2 has her 2.5 year check today. Can't believe she's that grown up! X

Beans Was the 2nd test a diff brand? It might be less sensitive. Maybe try and get a sensitive one like first response.

ZJ Thinking of you and DH today.

I wouldn't waste money on more tests. You are pregnant and you mostly likely have your dates right. If there is doubt the Dr/MW can always arrange for a test to be done or an internal early scan.

I too have to go pick a child up. I don't want to because she is a stroppy mare and my baby is all snuggled up asleep on me and I don't want to move!

Hello All,

Firstly big fat HAPPY BIRTHDAYS to all those I have missed, including the grown ups! Vag Happy big 4-0! Hope you enjoyed Barcelona? I went there for my Hen Do!

Beans the test thing is a bit odd, although I wouldn't know much about it. Was the test you just did a cheapo?

Spot I have done loads of reading on 'pre-school' boys...obviously given DS and his bad temper. I did read a really good article which was pretty reassuring about their anger/temper...I'll see if I can find it. It was very American, but still good. Yes, boys do have a testosterone surge around this age (when will DS's ever stop....) which accounts for lots. But I think they are just generally pushing boundaries and exploring what is and isn't acceptable. DS certainly is! The hardest part is trying not to react with our own anger/frustration. Which is virtually impossible for me at times with DS. But with DS he really has seemed to be respond to me the more I react to his bad behaviour in a calm way. I try to ask DS what makes him cross, which most of the time is a waste of time, but occasionally he will tell me he is cross because of x, y z...and at least then we can talk about why he shouldn't hit/push or whatever.

Actually, when I think back DD wasn't aggressive at 4 but bloody hell she was moody, and wouldn't listen and would sulk if she couldn't get her own way, refused to go to bed. In fact if I searched back through our old threads I do remember once saying she was really hard to be around...while DS was all cuteness and lovable at 2. Ha ha...oh my how they change!!

I guess what I am trying to get at (and I really should listen to my own advice) is that this is just a phase, and they will come through the other side. Until they do we have and each other to get us through.

ZJ Do let us know how DH gets on,am thinking of you x

jam How was the wedding?

kayz Sorry the sleep still ain't happening...it will one day!

Indith Thanks for the haircut reminder. I have just booked me and DD in for the end of the week, she can barely see through her fringe, and I am starting to frizz out with split ends. Whatever happened to the days I used to go every 6 weeks, and have beautiful products to put on my hair? Oh yes children! Nowadays the elastic band is my best friend, and hats in this chilly weather