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InmaculadaConcepcion · 24/05/2012 19:07

New thread!!

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StoneBaby · 27/07/2012 16:05

You have all my sympathies for the pooing in pants but there's a light at the end of the tunnel! DS now poos in the potty or toilets (3 weeks after going napoy free)

NK2b1f2 · 27/07/2012 16:46

SB I hope so! She doesn't seem remotely bothered and just goes and gets herself new pants...
No going back now I guess.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 27/07/2012 22:03

Hiya!!

We're moving in on Wednesday. Meanwhile, FIL has been busy today repainting and preparing to lay our new lounge floor, while MIL has been cleaning, vacuuming and doing some taming of the verdant wildness in the garden. Bless them.

Thanks for your offer of help NK!! Very sweet of you.
And good luck with the potty training, it sounds like it's going in the right direction, anyway.

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StoneBaby · 28/07/2012 07:27

Hiya IC great news that your ILs are helping you to get ready. I hope the move goes well on Wednesday x

NK2b1f2 · 28/07/2012 09:54

IC Sounds fantastic - happy moving day next week and great that your ILs are helping!

Well, I think dd2 is now officially toilet trained! Quite impressed it took two days only. She takes herself off to the loo or potty and then comes to us pleased as punch to be praised appropriately. (Not totally happy for her to try and tip the contents of the potty into the loo rather enthusiastically... she always misses!) This morning she's done two big wees on the toilet already and is now gone out with my brother to buy a few things. Yesterday we had one wee on the floor and one poo in her pants, but I am hopefull for no accidents today...

StoneBaby · 28/07/2012 13:33

NK yepee.

We've been baking today as DS was nagging pulling the chair to the kitchen, he really enjoys leaking the spoon while we make cakes Blush

When you go to the swimming pool with uor LO, do they stay warm while in the water? After 5mn DS starts shivering, teeth clapping (I don't know how to expalin it or if there's a phrase describing it) and today his lips turned blue Shock Water doesn't seem to be too cold and we are active in the water!

NK2b1f2 · 28/07/2012 17:29

dd2 has been dry all of today and quite independent in her potty use, with only one mishap when she forgot to pull her pants down while using the potty Grin

SB I've only taken dd2 swimming once so far, so will be interested if others have any advice.

ClimbingPenguin · 28/07/2012 18:42

what is the temperature SB? with DD as she doesn't have a large amount of fat, she used to really feel it. the pool was 30 which is OK but for babies should be warmer. She wore a wet suit that had arms, legs and was fleece lined. she now seems to do OK in a more normal sleevless, legless wet suit, body warmer type thing. I think she just got used to it plus got a bit older.

IC good luck

NK glad potty training has gone well.

BC hope things are going alright

we are back from ILs which wasn't too bad but we were more than ready to leave. On the plus side DH saw a stereotypical conditional style of (grand)parenting so is more on my side with how I would like to parent. it is amazing how many things warrant a good girl. We have also ended up a situation where DS sits between me and DH for dinner and DD inbetween them so suggestions on how to avoid that when we visit around Christmas, especially as they seemed to get worse with every meal. If their home made shepards pie was as emotionally loaded as it was, I dread to think what Christmas dinner would be like.

speaking of which I may have brought DDs xmas present already if I can hold out that long

also DH got offered the job, so looks like we will be moving in a few months. Negogiations are still on going with salary but we think he will take the job.

NK2b1f2 · 28/07/2012 18:58

CP does that mean you'd all be moving to London? Scary (well, it would be to me... Wink

ClimbingPenguin · 28/07/2012 19:05

not london central, we couldn't afford that. Probably East London, close to the M25. That way I'm only just over an hour away my family. DH is worried about me and that is his reluctance to move, but we have made a concession that if we find a climbing wall nearby then it will be OK. Need somewhere with 900 rent a month and 2000 a year commuting costs to make it work, think I'll start a thread once it is all certain.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 28/07/2012 19:15

Congrats to your DH CP!!
It would be good to be closer to your family, especially your mum I reckon.
Good luck with finding the ideal place!!

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StoneBaby · 28/07/2012 19:27

CP hugs but good that your DH realised the issues with his parents. I hope you'll find a solution with the new job situation.

NK yepee on the pt and Grin at the accident.

DS has an upset tommy but thankfully he now tells me when he needs to go (this resulting in having to run in the supermarket to reach the loo on time!)

StoneBaby · 29/07/2012 09:32

CP the pool is probably in the mid 20 temperature no higher. I'lm now looking for a neoprene wet suit on evay (trying not to pay a fortune)

ClimbingPenguin · 29/07/2012 21:13

our pool is 29 so yeah mid 20's is pretty cold for toddlers. Saying that the teacher is attempting to wean the 2 year old off wetsuits, so we have reluctantly agreed to step down to a more normal one. Although if we move, we will cancel the classes anyway.

Tomorrow morning I am going to stay in, which is a novelty for us. They have nursery for 2 hours in the afternoon and I wasn't really happy with the last settling in session. However if only for a month or maybe two, I will have strong words about what I don't wish to happen. Especially since they can't use the argument that they will have to get used to it.

NK2b1f2 · 29/07/2012 22:36

dd2 did one wee on my lap today... quite a surprise for me! In her defence, she has been poorly all day and was running a temperature of over 39 at the time.

CP Sounds like you and your dh are quite realistic about the positives and negatives of moving. Smile

IC Good luck this week!!!

SB Will also be looking for a wetsuit for dd2 - it hadn't even occured to me, so thanks CP to mention it!

Bearcrumble · 30/07/2012 08:30

IC Good luck with the move. So glad it's all gone well so far - the vendors sound so nice.

SB I think babies and toddlers don't hold their heat as well as adults so pools that seem ok temperature wise to us are a bit cold for them. I remember thinking I was so clever booking DS swimming lessons in the hospital hydrotherapy pool because it was warm but he screamed his head off and we had to stop them anyway...

I think DD might be a bit more confident about water - she loves being in the bath with me.

Hope your DS's bad tummy gets better soon.

CP Well done to your DH. Good luck with your move. There is a lot to do with kids in E London (Museum of Childhood, nice parks, lots of surestart centres etc).

Glad your DH was aware of the issues with his parents and your children. Re where DD sits at dinner - maybe tell them that she now needs to use her cutlery herself (so they don't shovel food into her) - could say Nursery said to do this so they don't see it as your values vs. theirs? You or DH could tell them that she eats less the more what she eats is commented on - and you want her to eat more so could they please turn a blind eye and not mention anything about her eating habits and definitely not that 'one more bite' stuff because then she digs her heels in.

NK Well done DD2 - that was easy!

It's sunny this morning so we will go to one o'clock club today.

DS had a lovely time at Camp Bestival with DH. I was rubbish though, really didn't enjoy being alone with the baby. Went out with my mum for lunch on Friday and we rubbed each other up the wrong way a bit. Went out with non-parent friends for lunch on Sat and couldn't wait to get away and was home alone Sun - just feeling bored and guilty for feeling bored as I'd looked forward to spending quality time just me and her. It didn't help that she's started the 4 month sleep regression and I stayed up to watch the opening ceremony (which I loved on the whole). Decided to take her for a walk in a sling yesterday afternoon and got stuck in a massive thunderstorm with no coat or umbrella. She didn't seem to mind the rain.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 30/07/2012 14:06

Aw Bc sorry to hear you had a bit of an off w/e.

I loved the Opening Ceremony. I didn't see it live (no telly) and hadn't really considered watching it until I saw some of the highlights on the internet. Thought Danny Boyle and co. did a generally awesome job.

I'm 36+1 today - the day I had DD! Every time I have the slightest tummy twinge I think "Is this it? Is this it?" Grin
I have a feeling Jesus won't be in quite such a hurry as his big sister.
I'm booked in for ELCS on August 29th (40+3) in case he hasn't arrived by the normal route by then. But I'm hoping even more for a VBAC now as I've discovered the hospital I'm booked in doesn't do immediate skin-on-skin after a CS. Okay, it's once you're stitched and out of the theatre, so the delay is only about 40 mins, but I'm mindful of that early alert window when it's ideal to try for a first feed. Big improvement on the situation I had with DD (didn't hold her for more than 10 hours after my section, thanks to ridiculous Spanish hospital protocol) but I still feel disappointed about that.

The redecoration is going well and the new house is smartening up nicely (not that it was too bad, just lived-in) - can't wait to get in there, although it will be a bit chaotic to start with. Smile

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ClimbingPenguin · 30/07/2012 14:44

IC will they let DH hold him for skin to skin so that he stays alert? I ended up not having DS until nearly an hour but he was on DH and stayed awake etc (they bodged the stitching and tbh I was in too much pain with the afterpains to hold him in the first bit). That's what I was worried about as well as DD was hard to feed and you had it worse than us. DD I didn't try to feed until after the theatre stitching at which point she had gone into that shutdown sleep thing they do if left alone.

BC i think we put too much pressure on ourselves when we have alone with anyone DH or DCs and it is quite normal. i sometimes think I have more high needs children as otherwise we would sit there in silence Blush

InmaculadaConcepcion · 30/07/2012 16:37

Good advice, CP - I'll request that if they absolutely refuse to put him on me. Thanks! x

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StoneBaby · 31/07/2012 11:51

Well we're home today as DS had some temperature (now gone) but he's clingy still. So we've made a clay pot this morning that I'll let DS paint once dry.

IC how is the move preparation going? Good luck for tomorrow

bc

ClimbingPenguin · 31/07/2012 12:16

bg how is your DD doing? sorry i forgot to ask earlier, hope you don't think we have ignored you.

LeMousquetaireAnonyme · 31/07/2012 12:39

NK how is DD2? BS DS?
IC good luck with the move tomorrow

StoneBaby · 31/07/2012 13:03

mous sorry to hear you're still worried. No screaming fit here so I can't help.

DS new phrase is 'wha's that?' it starts to drive me nuts.Blush

SconesForTea · 31/07/2012 14:25

Welcome back Mous (and can we have our weather back please?). Are you OK? Do you have any answers to the turmoil yet? DD2 does have massive crying tantrums yes. They come on very suddenly and usually over something so minor I am Shock that is disintegrates into a screaming tantrum so quickly. They are distressing. When they are that bad I tend to hold her and try to calm her down. The less bad ones (when I can tell she is trying it on) I try to ignore.

Best of luck with moving tomorrow IC. It sounds like your ILs are doing a fantastic job helping you Grin Of course DON'T carry anything but I expect you'll have your hands full with DD (unless you've sorted childcare for her?). I am living proof that moves can go smoothly (although you wouldn't think it from the moaning I've done Blush). FX for you.

Re your VBAC, do you have to have ELCS at 40+3 or could it be later? That hardly seems overdue to me (having 42w pgs as standard!). Hope your JF behaves himself, stays inside for a few more weeks but doesn't outstay his welcome!

bc . I thought I would love my Tuesdays without DD1 (she goes to ILs from about midday to 6pm) but in fact I have been getting very bored as I can't just get on with the things that need doing, as I have DD2, and I get lonely. I think the key is to spend time with people when they are not napping (nap times too precious to share!!!). I am heading out with my DSis later to get ice cream, and so looking forward to it (even though it is drizzling miserably). Hope your DD decides to sleep better soon. I was absolutely determined that DD2 would not regress at 4m but of course she did. Much better now though but still has ups and downs.

NK how is DD2? Get well vibes to her.

SB re the pool, mid twenties is absolutely freezing! Shock Even for adults let alone children! DD1's swimming classes were in pool heated to 32, when they lowered it to 30 we all complained, it felt so cold. I could not cope with mid twenties. Fleece lined wetsuit sounds the way forwards. Brrrrrr!

CP congratulations to DH on the job! You poor things though having to move again after having just settled. How are you (personally) feeling these days? Did you get any additional support from HV team?

We're all fine. DH and I cycled (with DDs in DH's trailer), with my dad and sis, to watch the Mens Road Race on Saturday in Surrey. The girls were good as gold although it took us 2 hours to get there instead of the 1 we'd thought. DD1 loved watching the helicopters circling the race and DD2 is just such a happy soul, I can take her anywhere. It was a lovely, fun, family day out and I'm so happy I didn't veto it as too much to do here (we have work starting on the kitchen next week which means the entire kitchen must be packed up and dismantled by this Saturday - erk! - we have a long way to go).

DD1 has started having wee accidents after going for about 3 weeks without any Hmm and also pooing in her knickers if we refuse to give her a nappy. She is poo-obsessed (wants to look at hers in the nappy if she does one at night, or DD2's if she does one) but point-blank refuses to do them on the potty or toilet.

I am being stricter with DD1 in general after deciding that she really does relish having boundries. Little things that before I thought "oh does it matter" like her sitting on her chair to have dinner, now I am insisting, and lo and behold her behaviour is improving. Basically I am parenting more like my parents did. Does it always come to this, I wonder?

BigBadBear · 31/07/2012 15:01

No advice mous, sorry. We have the odd tantrum, but nothing too bad. I think language definitely helps them, otherwise they just get frustrated (not that there is anything you can do about it).

NK how is your DD2? Well done on potty training!

CP congratulations to your DH. London is great, really.

BC glad your DS had a good time with your DH. It is odd when you only have one of your DCs instead of all of them, in my opinion. I crave time with just one (or none Blush) but when it happens, I find myself at a loss for what to do.

Exciting times IC! Good luck with the move and the imminent arrival of DS.

Sorry to fly in and out but I have so much work to do, it's not funny. It's my own fault really, as I have organised so many trips away over DD1's summer holiday that I have much less time than normal to do my work (not helped by MIL's op). Good job we didn't get Olympic tickets really Grin