FEB 2010 Terrors sometimes, angels at others - yep, they're properly two now...

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New thread!!

IC glad to hear that DD is okay. Bless her for her reaction afterwards.

CP I don' know if you've still got some of our old threads saved, but I'm sure if you could flick back through them you'd find me having down periods of time when mine were little. Having two close together is sooo hard (and yours are closer than mine). Plus, I had a number of friends around me so you really have done it the hard way. I hope your HV gets back to you soon and helps you to get back on track. It sounds like you and DH are coming up with some good practical ideas too. In the meantime, do use your current frame of mind to completely fly off the handle at MIL in a way that you wouldn't normally do and let her know what a stupid woman she really is. (I'm not making light of how you're feeling, I just think your MIL really has it coming to her and you are so accommodating - may be now is the time?)

SB liking the nappy action. DS2 was climbing the filing system at work today. We've had a regression on the potty training in the last couple of weeks which has been really annoying, but he had a dry day today so we've really praised (and rewarded) him for it in the hope that we can get back on track.

My Thursday went well with both boys. A 90 minute bike ride round the park seemed to knock some of the over exuberance out of them! DS2 has claimed DS1's strider bike (now that DS1 is on 2 wheels) and managed to ride it for about an hour - a lot more than DS1 ever managed! He kept shouting, "Look at me!" to all the folks we passed and regularly turned round and followed other children on their walks instead of staying with DS1 and I!

BG your DD2 sounds like fun too. DS2's latest phrase is, "It's not fair!" usually uttered before collapsing in a heap on the floor wherever we are!!

How are all the poorly LOs today? dd2 is very tearful and doesn't want to do anything at all. She gagged on her cereal this morning and has bad breath so I am suspecting tonsillitis...

poor thing

DD didn't wake until 6:30 and then napped 9-10. ILs are taking her to town for a fewhours so she should just sit in the buggy and watch the world go by. fever but not too bad. at least i know she has a bug rather than anything else. hopefully they will be sensible won't have her out too long

surivaly i thought about that but I don't want to them knowing I am struggling. I am already doing better just by vocalising stuff and I am starting to see things that I have been doing that were a bit fuzzy and ill judged in hindsight e.g. i haven't really been giving DS enough bf's in the day which won't help night sleep.

Okay, gross alert here... dd2 announced she needed a poo and wanted to use the loo, so I put her on but nothing happened. Then she sat on the potty, again nothing. So I put her back in a nappy and sent her off to play. Two minutes later she appeared naked, offering me her very full nappy . Taking off her nappy had resulted in rather a lot of transfer down her legs... Yuck. I think potty training is starting from today and I have had a little chat with her hoping she remembers that poo in the nappy is for me to deal with, not her!

Bleugh BG!
Here's hoping your DD2 doesn't have tonsilitis, ouch....

Sorry to hear your DD is still a bit poorly, CP.
DD woke up very hot in the early hours - but didn't make a fuss. I needed to go to the loo and as I went I heard this little voice saying "Mummy, can I have some water in my green cup..?" Very cute!! After supplying the requested water, another dose of paracetamol and some "more gentle" (head massage), DD went off again just fine. This morning she woke up seemingly back to normal, ate a hearty breakfast and lunch, but her temperature has gone up again (I haven't measured it, can tell from her body heat) and her eyes have that slightly glassy look again. That said, she's in good spirits and not overly clingy, so whatever it is doesn't appear to be affecting her too seriously.

Ha, famous last words....
DD's temperature went up again after her nap and although she managed to eat a bit of fruit for supper, she's otherwise off her food. Temp seems to respond to cooling measures (lukewarm bath, paracetamol), so I'm not unduly worried. I have a suspicion it might turn out to be roseola (your DS had it last year, didn't he SB?) seeing as it tends to start with mild upper respiratory symptoms (DD's sniffley cold-let, which started earlier in the week), then produce a high-ish fever for a few days. The rash comes out when the fever breaks, so I won't know for sure until/unless that happens. Anyone else's LO had that bug?
Of course, I could be misdiagnosing, but we'll see.

How are your DDs CP, BG ?

IC yes DS has roseola when he was 6 months old (if I recall well). It was 3 days of high temperature (39C+) and on the 1st day without fever the rash appeared and lasted 24 hours. I can't remember if he had any cold symptoms before hand. But I think there may be a bug/virus around as DS had fever during the 4 days of Jubilee weekend (I thought it would be chicken pox) and nothing came out. Fx she'll get better soon

DS chest infection doesn't seem to clear despites the ab. He is coughing less but he's still whizzy but the ventolin helps.

BG we need to make sure that my DS forsn't email your DD2 to give her tips on nappy removals

i'm planning to use bribery this weekend regarding poo and potty use as his only accident per day is caused by bowel movements

bribery has worked well for us. It is not a technique I like but I rationalised it by the fact that from DD's point of view there is/was no reason to potty train, it is purely because I want her to. However she was easy enough to wean off it, plus we explained that if she does poo's in her nappy or pants then she might get sore which seems to strike something with her. it seems we're averaging one wet accident a week counting two wee's in quick succession when IC was here as one. We said that after poo's or wee's in potty it would be chocolate milk time and we have been letting her have it ad hoc so it wasn't purely associated with the PT. For the most part she would ask for the milk and we'd say after potty time (in the same manner we would say banana was for after sleep etc. or juice was when we got to toys). not really sure what point i am trying to make here

Both DCs have mild fevers, a bit snotty and were unsettled. DS also has a cough but none of them are that bad so far

sb your DS really does suffer from them all doesn't he.

Bribery doesn't work on either of mine unfortunately. They give me a scathing look and laugh behind my back

IC I hope your DD is better. It was DD2 with roseola last year. No cold symptoms that I recall. But hers was atypic as the fever lasted more than 3 days.

No bribery here either. DD1 would have laughed at me too BG and DD2 is no where near understanding what it means.
Although the teacher says she is not way behind .

Not much improvement on the speech. She is trying hard but it is almost all gibberish. She has few new words there, here, down, hoppa, doi, pogone (pop corn ), pizza... But most of the time she says it once and that is it. Sometimes she comes up with a full sentence "Klaus, eat that onion" to a friend of ours (well she did have a piece of onion in her hand).

She loves the school though! but I have no way to know what she is doing unless I ask the teacher. (a pity it is too expensive and far away for next year)

oops DD2 is awake and poorly (39 C last night) so I have to go before having to answers anyone, sorry for me post.

PA, BBB, BC and scones. (and BG's DD)

Issues with poo here too probably due to the fever FX.

so I now weigh 48-49 kg but my BMI is holding at just above 20. Do you reckon I just attribute it to having two young ones and bfing or bother with a GP? I was looking to give blood but just as I have reached the time where I think they accept it, I don't weigh enough.

CP are you underweight for your height? BMI of 20 sounds fine to me (but then I'm lucky to get mine up from 18 to 19...). I weigh 60kg but am somewhat taller than you (by about a foot if I remember rightly ). Sounds like I wouldn't be accepted as a blood donor then...

Mous sounds like your dd2 is really enjoying her time at school and what a shame it's too far away and expensive to carry on with. But fantastic to hear from someone experienced in child care that despite her speech she's not behind!!!

mous for the next few days, sounds like some good things in there

yep, the weight itself isn't that bad, just that I use to weigh 55 before kids and it was pretty static, although I weighed 52/3kb before DS and I eat four meals a day.

only have 30 mins more contact with the ILs before they go home

CP yepee on only 30mn left If you're worried about your weight, you may to speak to your gp or even hv (but you're bf and running after an active toddler and taking care of your DS)

mous good news that the teacher is not worried about your DD2 speech. DS still doesn't make sentences, just words put ogether but no 'proper' sentence.

BG how is your DD2 doing?

We went swiming this morning and DS really enjoyed it, which prove me that I need to carry on taking him there to build his confidence (only problem is that the pool will be closing for 3 weeks at the end of the month and that the replacement pool hours aren't that good )

hold the congratulations! She doesn't talk at all to the teacher (10 words for daily use), but is very expressive and do try to communicate . The not (too) behind is compared to multilingual children which the teacher is used to. She would be in the UK system the teacher would be horrified of my neglect!

Good on you CP

Mous - the being expressive and trying to communicate is the key though! I think she's getting ready to launch herself speech wise and then you won't be able to shut her up again

Sounds promising, Mous!

Well, DD's been much better today, no sign of a rash and her fever seems to have gone for now (fx that's it...) so I guess it was just some unnamed bug doing the rounds. At least, I hope so as we're at the PILs today hoping to get out to a friend's party for a couple of hours later - I won't be comfortable leaving DD if her temperature shoots up again (that said, I'm armed with paracetamol just in case. She slept through last night, which must be a good sign....)

IC Have a lovely night out!

CP I am also lighter than before children. I don't think it is anything to worry about unless you also feel unwell. You are running around after two LOs so no wonder you burn those calories quicker! Did you survive the last few minutes with your ILs without incident??

dd2 was pretty okay today but quite clingy (attached to dh mainly). She also took off her nappy four times... usually to tell me she'd done a wee and would like a new one. Now if I can get her to tell me BEFORE she does a wee then we'd be getting somewhere.
Barely been outside today due to persistent heavy rain. dd1 is furious that it is summer and not sunny and I share her frustration. I'm hoping for a few nice days in August or else we'll all need VitD supplements and a SAD lamp!!

I think you're right, now if it can stabilise so i buy some new clothes :)

the ILs got a good send off, although apparently DS has wonky eyes. I managed to make it work for me so got some 1:1 time with both children and me and DH took DD out this morning for some muddy puddle splashing, feeding the darks and a go in the park. think we managed to mostly handle it just right and DCs are mostly normal again.

IC the only night me and DH have had out DD had a high (40 when drugs wore off) fever but we went anyway as they were with my mum hope you have a lovely time.

Just had a great evening in front of a log fire (yes in July- it was that or putting the heating on), watching a video (an actual video! We live in the dark ages in our house )

BG

I lost it a bit with DS yesterday, I knew he needed a poo so put him on the potty with the promesse of chocolate if he did a poo, after 2mn he got up, run in the kitchen having a tantrum as he was not allowed chocolate and after 10mn came up to me saying 'caca'. I was so cross!! as I did tell him he needed one... Sorry, just needed to let the steam out

CP

IC I hope you had a good night.

No nappy incidents so far bit dd2 has been howling most of the morning except for a few minutes when I offered her a wine gum just to get a moment's peace . We can't work out what her problem is exactly but it makes me a bit weary about working tomorrow.