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InmaculadaConcepcion · 11/11/2011 20:19

Pull up a comfy chair, grab a cuppa and a piece of cake, switch the monitors on low and let's PARTY.....!!!

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PenguinArmy · 06/02/2012 19:06

I went to the supermarket by myself for some quality time. As it was snowing and late there was hardly anyone there, so I did loads some trolley riding.

scones the babies are still at that portable age where you can do mostly what you want. With the toddlers it's all about them, sitting down when you want to is a bonus.

StoneBaby · 06/02/2012 19:24

Amazon is doing an additonal 20% off on the shoes range. I bought a pair of Kickers boots for myself for less than 30 quids (20% + no VAT + free delivery) Grin

I'll go back to see if I can get some summer shoes for DS.

BabyGiraffes · 06/02/2012 21:34

mous all okay with you? Just saw the news (German) and the pictures from Eastern Europe are scary.

LeMousquetaireAnonyme · 07/02/2012 06:24

BG we are OK! just almost housebound (no school because of the winds). But we are in the capital the rest of the country have more problems, I wish I could go to the sea side though! Any lasting snow in wales? I have to force DH to call MIL to have fresh news

PA that is rotten! hope you get better soon.

scones I think it is totally normal to feel as you do. I do feel a bit guilty because I let DD2 have more leeway. DD1 was a very high maintenance baby, toddler and still is at 7, a day with her is exhausting and I needed "me" time. DD2 is easier, she potters around happily and require less input (actually she despises it most of the time).
I agree with PA too, a content baby is easier than any toddler.
I do like IC, I am out as much as possible to make days less dull. (when it is possible Wink)

BBB I hope you still had fun! lots of hard work! I hope it was excitement which made your DD2 sick.

Bethy I would have think that not being coeliac was good news too. I guess now you have to find what is the problem. Hope DS2 is getting better. tartans or not?

Bearcrumble · 07/02/2012 09:23

Hi all. Posting on kindle so will be brief.

Sorry about sickness and tiredness PA and Bethy.

Happy birthday Sam.

Scones yes i go a bit funny if i dont see people most days. Luckily there are still lots of groups and things to do and friends in a similar position near me. Am reconsidering moving to the country.

Pregnancy going fine. Bit of heartburn and reflux now.

We are at center parcs. Fed ducks and rabbits and geese and squirrels from our cabin this morning. Snow on the ground but paths clear so ok for cycling.

BigBadBear · 07/02/2012 09:30

scones that's completely normal! It's really full on being a mum, and sometimes you just need a few minutes to recharge your batteries and brace yourself for the next load of stuff you have to do. That's how I feel anyway. I love my DDs very much, and most of the time everything ticks over very smoothly and we have a lovely time, but sometimes it is bloody hard work, and the sheer fact that I am always "on duty" (especially as my DH is erratic, at best, in his behaviour, veering from super dad and husband to having a sulky teenage boy) means that I sometimes just need a few minutes to catch my breath.

mous glad you are OK.

PA hope you are feeling better.

beth I am also confused about your DSs health. Are they OK?

I did have a nice time at the wedding, thanks. I'm sticking to my guns on the fact that DD2 is fine apart from a cold that sometimes means she has a build up of mucus in her throat, which occasionally can make an unwelcome appearance when she is eating.

I am knackered though. I didn't manage to do any work yesterday (though I did potter round and get quite a few chores done), had a really early night and am still tired. Grr. Very frustrating.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 07/02/2012 13:55

I hope it warms up for you soon, Mous - must be getting cabin fever!

Shoes sound good, SB!

BBB sorry to hear you're feeling knackered, but glad the wedding was fun.

Yes, Bc, I wouldn't fancy the rural idyll with two very small children for the reasons you mention! I love being in a city with loads of toddler-suitable activities within easy walking distance. And there's always the park if we want to be surrounded by a bit of green!
I just cracked open the Gaviscon the other night (thanks BG!) - I'm getting a bit heart-burny in the evenings at the moment, although nowhere near as bad as it can get in later pregnancy. Most unpleasant. How much longer have you got, now?

I had my booking in appointment this morning. The midwife and student midwife were both very nice (and very patient with DD, who was getting bored and demanding! They let her play with the stethoscope). They took the date on my reassurance scan very seriously (a week ahead of my LMP calculation) and say I should get a dating scan booked for about a week's time. Apparently, they like to be as close to 12 weeks as possible. So hopefully, not too much longer to wait to see if things are still going okay.
I'm now enjoying mooching through my Bounty folder. I'd forgotten the fun part about getting loads of freebies...

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BabyGiraffes · 07/02/2012 15:56

scones I think you feelings are quite normal. I love my two dds completely and unconditionally but my relationship to them is quite different because they are very different characters. dd1 will always be very special because she was my first and I spent so much time with her one to one when she was little. And I will always be very close to dd2 on a different level because she was much easier to give birth to and look after, much cuddlier, and I felt much more laid back as a mother, too. I find them both quite unique and fascinating but also at times infuriating. Needing a break is only natural because small children are hard work! Smile

BabyGiraffes · 07/02/2012 16:02

your feelings... my fingers are too long for typing on a netbook! (dd2 is watching the iplayer and hogging my computer. Small treat for her as she is running a bit of a temperature and full of cold)

BabyGiraffes · 07/02/2012 18:01

I love the way dd2 appears to speak in capitals a lot. Just got 'OH NO! Where's my BUGGY GONE?' Grin It only took her until today to realise the doll's buggy is no longer in the kitchen (dh shoved a few random ride-ons and other toys into his car boot before dd2's party on Sunday to actually have space for guest in the kichen... He hasn't got them out again - I think he quite likes the kitchen so tidy)

PenguinArmy · 07/02/2012 21:45

We were watching/listening to some songs on youtube and DD saw the icon and then demanded the 'abcd' song. Took me a while to work out what she was asking as was sure she hadn't heard of ACDC Grin

BabyGiraffes · 07/02/2012 21:48

PA Grin

bethylou · 07/02/2012 22:21

This threatens to be long as I attempt to comment on lots of the interesting things you've been posting lately (while I've been mopping up vomit/offending bosses etc..) and also to give a proper update on where we are up to. Feel free to skip the entire thing. (Maybe as I only post about once a week, I can be a little forgiven for one long post a week rather than several concise ones?!!Hmm)

So.. PA I hope you are feeling better now. Feeling under the weather with two LOs is definitely no fun at all. In answer to your question, I always carry a pack of treats that the DSs can have whenever we go out and exchange them for the ones they can't have (and then dispose of the contraband quickly - into my mouth!!Blush) From about the age of 2 and a bit I was telling DS1 that '...' would make his tummy feel poorly at the moment (in case he grows out of it), but that '...' would not. Now, aged nearly 4, he told the man in church at Christmas, who was offering chocolate coins, (in the one place I hadn't thought to take an exchange) that he couldn't have one and waited until we got home for a replacement. It is possible to buy soya- and dairy-free chocolate I believe, but you'll need to search for it and you might think your DD has not had enough of it previously to miss it. I go with haribo sweets, but I know that's not an option for you.

Scones I have felt like you on a huge number of occasions in the last two years. I always thought BBB sounded like a wonder woman, and she has confirmed above that she is! In my house, I can honestly say that often it is bloody hard work and occasionally things run smoothly (gives inane Grin!!) I'm sure IC might have something to say if I try and hang it on having two DSs, rather than two DDs, and it could just be their characters (and obviously, we've been tested on a few medical fronts too). In all seriousness, I regularly need to get out and away (and have occasionally considered whether the DSs and DH would even be better off if I didn't come back Sad). Like PA said, going to the supermarket counts as a treat after a long day, and I pretty much loathe going there!!! Despite the above, I can honestly say that having two DS is finally starting to get easier (medical stuff not withstanding). I actually sat in the hairdressers last week while one had his haircut on the chair and the other played independently without running for the door/weeing on the floor/pushing over another tiny client!! Just occasionally, I might now finish a conversation with a mum friend at playgroup, but usually still come home totally worn out!! I know that might not give you much hope at the mo, but I hope it will show you that your feelings are entirely normal - well, as normal as I am!!

IC Glad to hear you are feeling quite well, but with a few reassuring symptoms. Sounds like you are doing well too BC.

BBB I will be hoping fervently that DS2 has not read your DD2's idea of vomiting at weddings!! It has crossed my mind and DH has suggested just taking an extra packet of wipes. He was clearly being 'funny', so I might just use his kilt to mop it up if the eventuality occurs!! As for tartan trousers, I've rebelled and gone for shirt, trousers and tie for DS2 and the same combo, with added waistcoat, for DS1. I think the MIL will cry when she sees them and forget all about wearing tartan. My FIL is considering wearing them instead apparently, but I'm not sure he should, as it feels a bit like he's trying to muscle in on the wedding party (or is off to test out his golfing skills following the meal!!).

SB loved the cake pic, as I said. I'm starting to get nervous about how to make a George pig cake for about 20 people. I made Lightening McQueen for DS1 last year - will add a photo next time I've got the camera lead handy.

BG Loved the birthday photos and glad DD2 enjoyed the long birthday celebrations. We're having DS2's party on Sunday and the guests are aged 1-5. Pary bags are proving to be tricky due to that!

As for the health of both DS:
DS1 is now waiting to go back to Birmingham for a follow up. The samples they took were all clear. This means that it is likely to be IBS or something along those lines. We have removed the gluten again from his diet (along with the dairy still) and he is gaining weight again, has not complained of achey legs, has no more conjunctivitis etc.. He is still lethargic at times but is not currently anaemic. The dietician last week worked out DS1's body mass index. With his recent weight gain, it is just on the borderline for being normal (at 14). He still looks like a famine victim, but seems to be heading in the right direction. Putting him back on his old reflux meds has lessened his complaints of tummy ache at meal times, helps him to eat more than 5-6 mouthfuls at a meal and he hasn't regurgitated any food/water since Christmas Day (when they both did it!!)

DS2 has been sick 17 times in the last 3 weeks I think. He is starving hungry and has put the weight back on that he lost in the first week. He is cutting one of his back four big molars. Teething used to make him more sick, although he seemed to deal better with each set. Consequently, until they are all through, I don't think we will honestly be able to rule that out as a cause. Apart from that, he definitely is not digesting foods with skins (e.g. grapes, cucumber, roasted parsnips, sweeetcorn etc..) which seem to sit in his tummy for up to 10 hours, with tummyache, and then make him sick. The first batch of incidents followed a 10 day re-introduction of dairy, but we'd need to try it again to clarify, as it seemed more like a bug, although the rest of us didn't catch anything. On Saturday, I think it was pure reflux, but obviously a 2 year old's dose!! He's back on his reflux meds too, which is helping, but not entirely keeping things under control. He has also been referred to Birmingham. He has still only slept through the night about 10 times and usually wakes us between 2-5 times, often in pain and complaining of tummy ache. The health visitor is going to send out her nursery nurse to 'help' with the sleeping. However, I'm confident that we're not doing wrong things (and I can't leave a boy in pain) so I'm not holding my breath for a miracle cure. So, BBB, as you see, I haven't really got a bloody clue what's going on, but I'd quite like to step off and go to a spa for a few days to try and regain/retain my sanity. Smile I swing from thinking we're having a really hard time, and trying to be kind to myself and DH, to remembering the families with whom I work who put me to shame with what they cope with (and telling myself to get a grip!)

Anyway, if you've made it to the end, have some Wine. Sorry to take up so much space at the end of the thread.

BabyGiraffes · 07/02/2012 22:52

beth as far as I am concerned you are a saint to keep things together with two poorly ds and holding down a job...

bethylou · 08/02/2012 07:04

Thanks BG. I think it's more a case of just putting one foot in front of each other most days-little thought involved! Today has started at 3.50a.m. so I will be very glad to reach 4.20p.m and half term!!

PenguinArmy · 08/02/2012 08:12

Beth I always look forward to your posts and funnily enough they never seem
long when you're reading them. I agree with regarding sleep and medical stuff, my mum says I probably would have slept through earlier if I hadn't have had the medical issues I had at the time.

I'm still ill, in fact yesterday I felt even worse as had tummy pains as well. I nearly cried at playgroup as I was so tired. DS decided two hourly feeds with being awake afterwards was the way to go.

bethylou · 08/02/2012 09:04

Thanks BG. I think it's more a case of just putting one foot in front of each other most days-little thought involved! Today has started at 3.50a.m. so I will be very glad to reach 4.20p.m and half term!!

bethylou · 08/02/2012 09:08

And now my phone has gone from not posting at all to posting twice to make sure you get it! Sorry!
PA I'm with you on the 'crying' tired. Hope you feel better soon. Don't forget to nap when the dc do.

SconesForTea · 08/02/2012 10:19

IC thank you for the recipe clarification. I told him I wanted concentrared apple juice, not apple jiuce from concentrate

Thanks for your responses on the time-off thing. I'm in no way donning a hair shirt, but I think my aversion to looking after DD1 (which s s what it amounts to sometimes) is 'worse' than all of your (plural) desire for a bit of me-time. It's like I enjoy having DD2 so much, I would honestly like to have just her for a while. It's a bit hard to explain. I feel burned out. And very guilty for not really wanting to be with DD1 very much. Ah well. She gets the lion's share of the attention for most of the day anyway!

BBB with you on being knackered even though I 'shouldn't' be as DD1 is sleeping better at the moment although she did wake up screaming at 5.30 this morning and refused to go back to sleep. Poor DH dealt with her though, I just had nothing left to give (what is wrong with me?!).

Bc if you have a good network of friends where you are and there are plenty of toddler groups and other things to do.... Stay where you are!! IMO the last thing you need on top of a new baby is relative isolation. Have fun at CP Smile

BG Grin I love the way DD1 gives each word equal emphasis, rather than DAH-dah-DAH-dah as English is mostly spoken. It sounds so sweet and I'll be a bit sad when she starts speaking properly (I've said that before I know).

bethy I've just read your post and ((huge hugs)). You have had SUCH a tough time. It makes me hang my head in shame when I moan about DD1 and she has had none of the issues your poor boys have had (and is a girl and therefore easier to boot - sorry IC - whether through nature or nurture, it does seem to be the case!). You do, do, do deserve that spa break. Can it happen? I'm not sure what work you do, but coming from the perspective of my family and other child/toddler families that I know, I would say you have a VERY hard time and you deserve a blimmin medal.

PA Sad it is so hard when there's no-one you can call on to help out for a couple of hours. I feel like that as my ILS, although round the corner, are not very welcoming but if push came to shove I could pick up the phone and ask for help. Really hoped you'd have a better night Sad Does DD nap in the daytime at all anymore? If so, you are going to bed too right? And as soon as DH gets home you hit that sack (with DS).

The Military Wives song was on the radio this morning and DD1 was transfixed. As soon as it finishsed she asked for 'more wherever you are' so I found it on YouTube and played it to her (umpteen times). It still makes me well up every time goddammit.

BigBadBear · 08/02/2012 10:21

beth you ae much more of a wonder woman than me. Your poor DSs with their health, it sounds so difficult to manage and must be so frustrating. Glad your DS1 seems better at the moment, at any rate, and that you have a referral for DS2. I agree that the sleep issues will resolve once the health issues are sorted out, but it must feel a long hard slog at times. Oh, and enjoy the wedding!

PA sorry you are still not well. I've been crying tired at times too, and have had to tell people to not ask me how I am for fear of bursting into tears. It's normal, especially when you're tired. Hope you feel better soon.

I'm feeling much better after a couple of early nights. I have just baked DD2's birthday cake, and will probably put pics on FB after I have iced it tomorrow (though don't expect wonders like SB). We are having a little get together with some of her toddler friends, ie. the younger siblings of DD1's antenatal group after lunch and before school pick up, so that will be nice.

Next week DH is off to the US for work and I am going to Brum with the girls to see my family. He's going a bit sooner than expected as I got the date through for my ovarian cyst removal, and may need him around to help me with school runs for a couple of days.

SconesForTea · 08/02/2012 10:23

On an entirely different note: I have real concerns about my next-door neighbour and I'm not sure if I should act on them. She is lone parent to 3 DCs aged 3, 7ish and 9ish. A few months ago she got a bf, he seems to have moved in and we hear a LOT of shouting and swearing from him at the DC. Really unpleasant Sad Yesterday I thought she'd left him as he was on the phone to someone (presume her) asking where she was, threatening to hurt her when he found her, it was awful. SO loud, DD1 started to repeat what he was saying. From what he was shouting to her I gathered it was his last day with her before going to prison (but can't work out why not remanded in custody then?) but I've just heard him shouting next door again just now. Lots of bangs and crashes yesterday too. I suppose I'm worried there's DV going on Sad and the only thing that stopping me call SS is they will know it's me that's called and (am I being really hysterical?) what if he hurts my DC?

BigBadBear · 08/02/2012 10:24

scones THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU. You are tired as you have two children under two years old. It's normal. And will get better, I promise.

BigBadBear · 08/02/2012 10:26

Scones that sounds hardcore with your neighbour. Do you know her? If so, could you pop round with something (something that has come into your garden or left outside your house by her DCs?) and just check she's OK?

PenguinArmy · 08/02/2012 13:08

scones I could in all honestly imagine feeling that way that DS was such a angel. When one is easy compared to the other it's easy to feel that way. I', sure DD2 will turn into a terror difficult phase and how you feel will swap. My DD is relatively easy atm, I'm enjoying it while I can.

I got to nap yesterday as DS basically didn't sleep all morning so they slept at the same time for once. Otherwise he generally sleeps in the buggy inbetween places. He also has a thing where at lunch it's hard to put down once he's asleep but not in the late afternoon when DD is up Confused

BigBadBear · 08/02/2012 13:50

I don't know that girls are easier than boys, I just think it's different (I'm undoubtedly offending IC in another way now, I realise). From my experience, boys seem more physical, which can be challenging in one way, but girls often know how to push buttons emotionally, which is difficult in other ways. And I think you learn to manage with whatever you are dealt.

I'm currently reading (yes, reading! I've finished my big editing job (400,000 words in six months Shock, so can face reading again :)) Divas and Dictators (!) to try and get to grips with DD1's behaviour. I realised that I have a few tools in my armoury for the toddler stage, courtesy of Penelope Leach and Toddler Taming etc, but I'm lacking at the primary school age, so bought another couple of books. I also have How To Talk So Kids Will Listen And Listen So Kids Will Talk.

PA glad you got some extra sleep yesterday.