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Beans33 · 01/02/2011 21:14

Here we are x

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SummerLightning · 01/03/2011 09:44

does your DD always take her socks off? It's driving me potty! Don't remember DS doing this but I suppose it would have been summer so maybe not so annoying!
I am putting her in dresses and tights a lot to avoid it but she has loads of cute trousers so don't want her in them always.

waitinggirl · 01/03/2011 10:40

here's the birth story - it's long...

Just to say that madam was up in Suffolk with dad and ladyfriend, so we didn?t have to worry about her.

Wed 5pmish. Was at a friend?s house for tea and felt some period pain like grumblings. She got all excited thinking I was going into labour ? she has a history of friends coming round and going into labour. Anyway, there was nothing like contractions, just grumblings. Went home, dh came home and i told him i thought something was up ? bless, but he got really quite tense, really worried about not having had enough sleep to get through it. I texted kate, my old friend and doula, to say i thought something might be starting but wasn?t sure yet. She texted back to say keep her informed. Also, that she was out that eve at a big awards ceremony for her dad, but that she?d have her mobile surgically attached to her, and wasn?t drinking and had a change of clothes, so not to worry.

Around 9pm i decided i needed paracetamol, and at 10ish they started becoming contractions. Poor dh spent all his time timing contractions ? i don?t think he knew how else to help. I could see him getting so tense. I texted kate who called back and said she was on her way. She got to us about 45 mins later. I was coping with moving around and it was perfectly doable. Once kate got to us, she put dh to bed in the spare room and spent her time with me ? she was amazing, mopping my brow, talking to me, lighting candles, putting music on/off. I started shivering like an idiot, and even though i didn?t feel cold, she said i was. So she popped me in the bath and showered me with warm water for what felt like ages. I loved the bath and felt i could stay there forever, but she wanted to make sure i was going to get some rest, so wrapped me up in towels and popped me back into bed. And then for an hour or two, dh was sleeping in the spare room, i was in bed dozing between contractions, and kate popped herself into the bed next to me and did some dozing/doulaing as well. It was a really magical time. I don?t know if a ?proper? doula would get into the bed too, but it was great that we?ve been friends for a such a long time, that it didn?t feel weird at all, just really intimate and magical.

Around 3am the contractions started getting a big stronger and i put the tens machine on. I felt i needed to get out of bed and lean on my chest of drawers. Dh woke up at 3.30 feeling way better and ready for anything. Suddenly my waters broke (on the blinking carpet) ? not like a massive gush like with R, but only a bit, and suddenly the contractions got way worse and i know i started making lots more noise. I started panicking a bit and dh rang the hospital who said to come in. So i?d been labouring at home for about 6 hours ,and we all set off for the hospital at 4ish. Now it became hell. The journey only takes about 15 mins, but there are speed bumps galore in north London (not to mention once you?re through the gate at the maternity ward entrance FFS), and i never realised how painful those could be. I was on all 4s in the back of the car with my head shoved on kate?s lap, desperately wanting it to be over. The word epidural was already in my mind.

We arrived around 4.30am, booked in, and we were led to the same room in which we laboured for madam. It was really comforting. But I was in so much pain, i really thought i must be in transition already because there was an urge to push, and i thought i might die if this didn?t stop soon. When they examined me i was 3-4cm. So guess what the girl who has made such a fuss for the last umpteen weeks about NOT WANTING CONTINUOUS MONITORING did? Screamed ?get me a fucking epidural?. Honestly, i apologise for boring you all with it. Just goes to show, eh?

Kate later told me that she considered trying to pop me in the bath instead, as it had been such a great experience for me before, but she realised i was dead set on an epidural and that it would probably take too long to fill.

So there i was, lying on a bed, strapped continuously to a monitor ? i got the epidural (which mysteriously last time i was convinced worked immediately, but this time seemed to take ages). I was also taking gas and air, which didn?t make me sick like last time, but nor was i really aware of what it did do for me, but it was something to do, i suppose. Once the epidural kicked in, dh, kate and i (and our lovely mw) had a lovely 4 hours of dozing in the room, chatting, and waiting for dawn. Apparently the contractions were going ?beautifully?, the baby was doing well and all was great. Everyone who had examined me told me the baby was ?a good size? ? i.e. massive. This slightly stressed me, understandably.

They checked me again after 4 hours and i was at 6cm (better than i?d ever been before) and Corinne, my mw, was convinced i was going to give birth vaginally to a baby boy. Suddenly something was spotted on the trace and the baby wasn?t doing quite so well ? the doctor said she was happy to let me go a bit further and check again in a couple of hours. Then she came back in again and said her consultant wanted to talk to us ? this wonderful consultant came in and gave it as it is: i had blood in my urine and in my liquor, the baby was beginning to get quite distressed and because it was a vbac, she didn?t want to induce the labour with syntocinon and would highly recommend another cs. She said something isn?t right in there and better to be safe than sorry. And then the whole team left the room to give us some time to talk about it and make our decision. I suppose i was a bit disappointed, but i felt i?d given it my best shot, that i?d had an experience of labouring at home with a doula (where i have honestly never felt so pampered ? lying in the bath, i felt like Cleopatra), and i was faintly terrified of trying to push out a ?good size? baby. So we went for it.

The operation itself took forever compared to last time, because there was some sort of problem contacting the team, and i was really uncomfortable as the epidural top up topped up a bit too much and came into my lungs and arms and hands. I also had a sudden ridiculously blocked nose, which meant breathing was really really hard. But they did the operation, the baby was born and we heard s/he cry a little bit, so were pleased (R never made any noise in the operating theatre as she refused to breathe for ages). Hilariously when they cut through the umbilical cord, lots of the blood spattered on the ceiling and on dh ? they later asked him to cut the cord again nearer the stump, but he tried and tried, but he?s a lefty and those scissors are made for right handed people, so he couldn?t do it. We were told she was a girl who weighed 7lb 5oz, so who knows where everyone got the idea of a ?good size? baby from ? it might be she was lying high and was wrongly positioned. As the consultant stitched me up, she asked if the first cs had been tricky or if i had endometriosis. I said no to both, although the endometriosis might be undiagnosed as my periods are a bit mental and painful. She said it was very mucky in there and my next pregnancy should be an elective cs conducted by a top consultant as it might be v tricky.

And then we were done. It turns out both our babies were born just in time: they were both pretty poorly with apgar scores of 2 at 1min, and both rallied to 8 at 5 mins. I lost 1litre of blood which narrowly missed needing a transfusion. I cannot fault the hospital ? i was initially terrified of going on the postnatal ward as i had such a hellish time last time, but this time it was fantastic ? had an individual midwife to talk to each time, not just a random collection of people as with last time.

So there you go... and Georgia is gorgeous. And dh said having kate there made all the difference. He says that this traumatic cs experience, but done in a very different way and with kate with us, has somehow completely cancelled out the previous experience which sent him a bit doolally. Hurrah!

MomOrMum · 01/03/2011 10:51

Reporting the arrival of the last Feb 2011 baby! A DS2 to keep Spot's DS2 company (Spot, your poor DS2...have only skimmed but am so sorry the wee man is in such pain).

Marcus James. Arrived with no warning yesterday morning. First contraction at 7 am, baby in arms at 11 am, home by 4 pm. A fast and very furious labour - no time for pain relief other than TENS! I am bruised and battered (and stitched) but feeling a hundred times better than post-section.

He is gorgeous but 100% nocturnal. He was awake and on the boob all night and now sleeping all day. Will try to get some pics on Facebook soon, for those of you on there.

Midwife here so gotta run but will post more soon!

Beans33 · 01/03/2011 11:16

Bugger me! A love birth story from WG, followed by a lovely announcement from Mom - oh yay! What a happy February.

SL - yes, DD2 rips off her socks and it drives me insane. Plus yes, she manages to get her little mitts on everything. She terrorises DD1, who is a bit of a wetty anyway, by stealing her Sheepy and any other toy that DD1 is hanging onto. So mean. But I love to watch it. DD2 is just so keen to have a go at everything. She is v active and nosy. I love it!

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Beans33 · 01/03/2011 11:17

(PS Meant lovely birth story, not love!) Well done WG and Mom - I've got warm fuzzy feelings! Loving the names from everyone. Middle names a go go - Emily is DD2's middle name and Mom, James is DH's name. Love Marcus and Georgia too!

xxxx

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LadyThompson · 01/03/2011 11:39

Mom, that is marvellous! Love the name Marcus. Thrilled for you! Many congratulations darling. Can't write much as lying in bed with food poisoning and am a spewing, pooing mess Grin Good ol' Egypt. Other than THAT still a nice hol.

WG, I loved reading your birth story, thank you so much for posting it. I do so hope the PILs aren't too gruesome. A kiss for your lovely new girl.

Spot, I wish I could do something for you. Not surprised you feel failed by the medicoes. Is there anyone you can get to lobby on your and B's behalf? So worried for you.

Trace - you can always talk on here. It's a safe place where everyone is on your side. Try not to bother yourself with thoughts of how you think you 'ought' to feel. It's an unpredictable process, I would think. Just keep focussing on any chink of light, and know that it won't be like this forever.

Very glad to hear that JB's little one is making grand progress and also at the blooming of Jump's DD2!

SL, I totally identify with your thoughts about your DD and weaning, think my little nipper is going to be the same.

Must go...love to all xxxxx

SummerLightning · 01/03/2011 11:57

Awww lovely. WEll done wg and MoM. So many new babies! Your doula friend sounds ace wg. I had the same "Oh it's all going well, looking great for a normal birth - oh actually it's not, we'd like to give you a CS" experience wg. I also felt disappointed but vaguely relieved!

SummerLightning · 01/03/2011 11:58

oopsie with the bold there!
I only meant to bold your name, obviously.

zoejeanne · 01/03/2011 12:09

Wowwee, just getting all teary at WG's gorgeous birth story, and then we get a birth announcement! Huge congratulations Mom, what a lovely name and at last we have another boy! Any teeth this time? (it was your DS1 who had a tooth, wasn't it?) So much good news I'm a bit of a soppy wreck now! Smile

Yuck at the food poisoning LadyT, what a bummer. Have DP or the girls picked it up? I hope it clears up so you get some well time before the end of your hols

zoejeanne · 01/03/2011 12:10

And now I've done it too Summer!

vagolaJahooli · 01/03/2011 12:36

Wow well done mom, snuck him in just in time. Hooray for another boy.

Also well done WG and thanks for the birth story. Also what a wonderful thing to hear from DH about this experience cancelling out the other. Def sounds like there was something going on though doesn't it, I'm sure smug flower child lady will tell you that it was your fear (didn't she say that last time?) But blood in your wee and the amniotic fluid is not good, fear can do a lot of things to mess up labour but it can't place blood where it shouldn't be. Shame they took so long with the surgery but otherwise all went smoothly which is good. I'm glad you got to be at home for so long, can you see why some sandal wearing homebirthers like staying there, its nice. I remember one of the most uncomfortable scariest parts of DS1's labour was in the bloody minicab stuck in midday London traffic on the way to the birthcenter. Anyway well done WG you successfully brought another little girl into the world. I bet will all seem a doddle compared to what you have coming your way in a few days.

Sorry about the dodgy tummy Lady. Of all the DV risk countries I've been to, Egypt was the only one where I picked up the runs.

sybilfaulty · 01/03/2011 13:39

Well done MOM, how lovely to have another wee boy. I am a bit Shock at the speed of it though. Mind you, in Kings one wants to stay for as short a time as possible.

WG, lovely story, you all sound so happy and relaxed. Hope you are all settling down to be a family of 4.

Oh bad luck, LadyT, so sorry about your dose of the trots. Hope you soon feel better.

We accomplished our black swan moment this am. Lucy looked lovely and seemed to enjoy it. I was a bit surprised at how worked up some of the other mothers got though. One had to go for a walk to calm herself down, another got all angsty and "do you thnk they've finished yet?", yet another was telling her daughter to be brave. This was a presentation class where they all came out with a certificate so failure was not even possible. I hate to think what they would be like when it's something which actually matters.

JamInMyWellies · 01/03/2011 13:44

Huge congratulations MOM how fabby!

WG what a fantastic birth story made me well up a wee bit. Hurrah for a better exp and well done you!

We watched OBEM last night and I have to say DH and I are now thinking about No.3. Shock

Right back to it dog to walk, meals to cook, house to clean, sigh does it never end?

KiwiPanda · 01/03/2011 15:09

Oh what a lovely moment to drop in! Mom huge huge congratulations, I love the name Marcus too (first love of mine Wink) - short and sharp sounds - well, better than long and slow!!

And WG loved the birth story too. Sounds like you got really brilliantly taken care of.

Hope you are both getting some sleep, albeit at the wrong time of the day ..!

spotofcheerfulness · 01/03/2011 15:17

Wonderful news, mom, you sound v chipper, congratulations, and great to hear B will not have the total pick of the 2010/11 newbies. It would go to his head for sure.

And lovely story WG, so many good things, the build up sounded wonderful, and even the good care on the PN ward is really nice to hear.

Lady am sorry you are a little bit pooey, I was the same when we went to Taba a few years ago. Are you able to sunbathe nice and still?

Took B to GPs yesterday and he's whacked up the Omeprazole and brought back in the Ranitidine and Domperidone so will see...

vagolaJahooli · 01/03/2011 15:28

Spot, I hope you don't mind but I asked an old colleague of mine who lives in Brighton, about healthcare around there, she doesn't actually work in Brighton but has heard the hospital is usually ok, but she did say she had to change her GP a couple of times until she found a surgery she was happy with. It looks like your GP has suddenly started being a bit more helpful but if your not completely happy, maybe consider changing to a different surgery.

Sybs we are a ballet family (not me I hated it) my brother is a professional dancer so I am very familiar with ballet mums. Swimming mums are also very similar breed.

waitinggirl · 01/03/2011 20:56

Oh mom Oh mom oh mom, that is fantastic! Well done you! Fabulous name-I really wanted it for a boy, but dh is called mark and he thought it wd be too egotistical. Oh, and we ended up having a girl. Great news! We too hVe a fabulous daytime sleeping babe who wants boob all night. I'm with you!

Rubena · 01/03/2011 21:57

Really quick as have just skimmed. Hello from dh ipad in Cairns! Bit rainy and very humid but great to be here. Ds took over being the sick one after dd but on the mend now. Huge contests to Mom and hope you feel better soon Lady.

TheInvisibleHand · 01/03/2011 22:49

Hooray for MoM and little Marcus, that's lovely news!

WG so glad to read your story and that you all feel good with it. I know for me, both times I felt it wasn't so much about the kind of birth I had but that the situation made sense to me (even if it was a scary CS). And of course you have the gorgeous G - love the FB pics.

LadyT - hope your holiday is not completely wrecked by the bug. Sorry - I know you really needed a good break.

Syb - Am following your ballet stories with fascination and fear! DD (nearing 4) has been in littlies ballet classes for a couple of terms now takes it all very seriously and is convinced she is going to be a ballerina when she grows up. It has already involved a quite ridiculous investment in kit. All very cute, but not sure I could cope with full blown balletomania....

trace to add to what everyone else has said, don't for one minute worry that we think what you have to deal with is any less "real" than everyone else's worries - don't feel you need to hold back on that score.

spot - I do hope the meds do their trick. Poor little man and poor you.

Busy here, but I guess that's life. DH understandably concerned about MIL - still not really come downstairs a couple of weeks after her fall and the blood tests show unexplained anemia so they are going through the motions to see what it could be - first thing to knock off on the list is the possibility of cancer, which has spooked them all.

DS has turned into the world's politest 2 year old. I thought I'd share.

DH (carrying J): J would you like to come down and walk?
DS: No thank you daddy, carry please.

And do you think he got away with it Wink?

urbanewarrior · 02/03/2011 08:08

congratulations mom Grin great names and so quick - blimey. Hope you're getting lots of rest. lovely birth story wg - your friend sounds like a very special person. am so pleased that it's been easier for your DH this time. I know I go on about this but I think there's a tendency to underestimate how hard it can be for the man to have to watch all that's going on - properly stressful. I probably bored you with this already but when I was in labour with DS my Mum (who was with us throughout both times) phoned my Dad and in conversation said she was finding it a bit fraying on the nerves and my Dad (4DCs) said "I told you it was difficult" so loud we could hear him 10 foot away. V funny.

LadyT hope you recover quickly. And Sybs Hmm at ballet mums. Am glad L enjoyed it.

DS has picked up on comic relief and yesterday announced that he was going to get people to sponsor him to do 5 forward rolls and give the money to children who don't have any books or racing cars. Awwwwwww. And in v English way I am slightly embarrassed about tweeness of this.

Trace - just echoing what everyone else says. Please come and talk to us. One of the many things I love about knowing all of you and having this is that I think it's a place I can always turn to. And we'd never get fed up of hearing about how you're getting on. Try not to be too hard on yourself. xx

Artichokes · 02/03/2011 08:36

Wow MoM! Congratulations. What a fast labour. And only a few days ago you swore you wouldn't have a Feb baby. Little Marcus clearly had other ideas. Lovely name btw.

And WG, I loved reading your birth story. I am so glad that it had it's lovely moments and overall felt like a healing experience. It seems a bit much that you have to house your ILs so soon, I hope MiL behaves. Are you very tired after the blood loss. I lost not much more than you and needed transfusions so make sure you rest and eat lots of iron.

Lady, so sorry to hear you have Delhi Belly, or rather Sharm belly. I never got ill in Sharm but once got a terrible bug in Cairo. I blame the Egyptian money, it was the filthiest stuff I'd ever seen and of course you handle it as you pay for food and drinks. Maybe your DD1 was wise to go on hunger strike.

We move in 48 hours. The packers are in. The house is in chaos. Work is manic. And DH chose this moment to invite house guests to stay for two nights. He thought it would be fun. Like a group camping trip apparently. I love you DH but sometimes, just sometimes, I want to smack you over the head with a medieval instrument of torture.

JumpJockey · 02/03/2011 08:47

MoM huge congratulations! super speedy, hope you're adjusting ok to the surprise! and what a lovely name, unusual and very classy :)

WG thanks so much for sharing G's story, it's wonderful that dh feels so much more positive now. and your friend sounds like an angel, you said she's not a 'proper' doula but has she done it for anyone else? (I only ask as S's godmother, mother of miracle baby M, is expecting again in August Grin and looking for a doula, and she's in east London so a bit far for my lady but your pal might be able to...?) I love the picture of you two in bed riding the labour waves.

Lady hope you're feeling better soon and maintaining continence Wink

Avo - good luck with the move!!! How about one of these for DH and his 'brilliant' ideas? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knobkierrie knobkerrie as used by the zulus at Rorke's Drift, brutally efficient and also contains the word Knob Grin

right dd stirring, catch up later lovelies

JumpJockey · 02/03/2011 08:48

darn stuffed up the link, here it is again

for unhelfpul DHs

Beans33 · 02/03/2011 09:30

Morning all

How are you doing? Lady - we got the squits in Dahab when we were there - Immodium was a life saver. Particularly as we were doing our advanced PADI diving course!!!

All well here. Invis - I am glad they're investigating your MIL. It's horrible not to know and I'm thinking of you. We're in similar boat here with MIL too. She has a "mass" on her bowel, which she's having removed on Tuesday so they can find out what it is. It's all a bit scary as it's growing and the chances are it's cancer again. Poor lady. She nearly died of it 8 years ago, but pulled through. Luckily it's been long enough that she can have chemo again if needs be. If it had happened 3 years ago, she wouldn't have been allowed to have it again. But we're all hoping it's a benign tumour, but it sounds decidedly ominous, to be honest. Feeling rather low about it all.

My Dad is ok and finished his radiotherapy yesterday. He now has a few weeks off til his operation on 12th April, which he's dreading. He is going to be pretty crippled after it as they are having to remove a large part of his upper leg flesh and it will take months for him to recuperate. The worry is that they will miss some of it and it might come back, so they are taking out a lot. They're promised him that he will be able to play golf again, but said he probably won't stand on the foredeck of his boat again. He is cramming in the golf now and doing lots of walking while he can. All a bit depressing.

On a lighter note, we're off to Barcelona this weekend for DH to do the marathon. Leaving the girls with one set of Grandparents each. DD1 with inlaws and DD2 with my parents. Will be v nice. But SIL is having to go down to her parents' on Monday to look after DD1 as MIL had her op on Tuesday and we don't fly in til midday and have to go via my parents to collect DD2. All rather complicated really. I am looking forward to a few days off, but I think we'll both be rather nervous about the outcome and results of MIL's operation on Tuesday. Poor DH is v stressed about it.

Ho hum. Sorry, bit of a miserable post. Generally all well, though!!

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sybilfaulty · 02/03/2011 16:55

Oh darling Beans, so sorry things are so tough. Poor MIL and poor Daddy. It must be such a frightening time for you. I have to shoot off now but will give you a bell tonight or tomorrow when I am working. Am keeping everything crossed for good news for MIL and that your pa stays strong. Lots ot love.

Off to get kids. Back on later. Hope all well.

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