December 2010 - Merry Christmas new babies!

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Hi, I couldn't see a post-natal thread but as we grow in numbers we'll need a place to chat!

All good here... Jude is now 5 days old and such a wonderful good baby. Mind you he must think he's been born in the Arctic as it was -16 outside this morning in Edinburgh. Brrrrrrr - Its not always this cold Jude .

How's everyone else getting on?

Wholelottalove glad the injections went ok. I hated to see Bob screaming. Hope William and your DD feel better soon. crazykat hope you feel better soon too. frenchfries22 One of my NCT people said her daughter didn?t bat an eyelid when injected. Perhaps it?s the technique used by different nurses? I am still co-sleeping. Bob still goes to bed about 11pm and sleeps until gone 6am at the moment. We have no routine at all and I totally sympathise with the worry reading about routines can cause. I have managed to get Bob to nap in the day (if I am home) but it?s never at a regular time.

Hi Miffster , the silent reflux sounds really hard going. I can?t believe you are leaving the country so soon. I?ve not even started expressing so don?t know if Bob will still take a bottle. I?m going to wait a while longer I think.

Hi 1lumpor2 sympathies to you too about the reflux .

chooster thank you for the reassuring words 

CJMommy hope you manage to avoid any stress about DD?s weight. A health visitor told a friend of mine that her baby was starving which I thought was totally out of order. Bob is still gaining well (12lb 3 now) but I have had two health professionals tell me to think about weaning from 4 months which I really don?t want to do so I hope I am not going to get loads of pressure when the time comes. How is the chicken pox going?

WhatWillSantaBring sorry you are feeling down, the bleeding can?t have helped I am sure. Wow at your norks though!

maxpower MIL is coming over in April as her second grandchild is due in March. I will see then how things will be but I hope a second grandchild takes the heat off me an DH a bit. FIL has started to take a real interest in Bob (MIL and FIL are divorced ? he lives about 15 miles away) and comes over to see him regularly which is lovely but I wish he would give more notice. He tends to call the day before and I feel bad if we have other plans. DH has not had a close relationship with his dad since his parents split so it?s a bit strange having him here so often. I?m also waiting to see what?s happening with accommodation for mil because last I heard she thought she was staying here but it?s just not possible, at least not for 2 whole weeks.

I spent all day waiting in for a delivery and it?s really tired me out. I don?t like just sitting in the house with a baby, much prefer to be out and about. I know now I could never be a SAHM and I am going to have to sign up to more stuff to keep me sane during the rest of my maternity leave. I feel a bit frustrated with DH because he?s been out twice this week and because I am breastfeeding I feel resentful that I can?t go out. Really he hardly goes out and in principle I don?t mind when he does, it?s just pissing me off that I don?t have that freedom and won?t for ages. On the other hand he probably thinks I spend all week going out for coffee while he is at work (which is kind of true). I do wish he would have Bob for longer stretches of time though, just to give me a break and I am also irritated by the state of the house.

I have used the Moby wrap a bit more, though I have to wait until Bob is asleep to get him in it without a fuss. I worry that I am doing it all wrong as he often cries.

We took Bob to the hospital for a check up, a routine thing after his scare as a newborn. Turns out one of his testicles hasn?t descended so if it doesn?t come down he may need an operation.  I hadn?t even noticed! I just hope it comes down by itself. I?ve researched it on Mumsnet and apparently it?s simple enough but I really hope it doesn?t come to that. Everything else was fine and they are cautiously optimistic that he is fine and will continue to be so.

Hello everyone, sorry it has been o long since I posted. I never seem to have time to catch up properly so end up not even trying.

Another tummy sleeper here too as was his big sister, i think as long as they can lift their head, are sleeping on a firm, flat surface and using a sleeping bag the risks are significantly reduced. Also, make sure the room is fairly cool so overheating isn't such a problem.

Miffster, sorry to hear you are having such a tough time, has the GP suggested anything other than gaviscon? Malcolm was prescribed gaviscon for reflux, but the reflux wasn't nearly as big an issue as the constipation it caused so I stopped it. However, the GP that if gaviscon worked, we should come back straight away as there was other stuff which would be even more effective. Sorry, I can't remember what it was called.

Things are generally going well here, it's frustrating and tiring and miles harder than I expected but very rewarding too most of the time!

Take care all.

Yesterday we moved the cot into the nursery, a the girls were getting too big to share one cot. It also meant they could wear their sleeping bags. I had a rubbish nights sleep though, they both went down at 7pm and Florence slept until 2pm, but woke at 3.30,5 and then was fully awake at 6am. Vivienne slept from 7 - 5 had a quick feed and went back down but I am so tired!

good to hear from you Pjen

lavita congrats on moving the girls into their own room, but sorry you had a rough night

DF I swear I could have written so many of your posts after I had DD! My FIL is a real handful but after DD was born, he suddnely became much more human. It's strange the effect that grandchildren can have... When I was on mat leave with DD I had to make sure I had at least one thing to do out of the house every day - I'd have gone insane otherwise. It's also entirely normal to resent your DH being out of the house so much. I think what men don't get is that we understand that while they're out at work and we're at home with the baby, it's not like they're down the pub with their mates, but the fact that the only have themselves to worry about is the big difference iyswim. TBH unless you could actually swap with them for 3 months they'd never really get it.

Had to go to the drs this morning. Matthew started grumbling when we got there because he wanted to be out of his car seat but it was practical for me to get him out as I wouldn't have been able to hold him when I saw the nurse, so I left him be. Cue fab receptionist who came over, got him out of his car seat and cuddled him for 20 mins, even while I was in with the nurse. She was telling people arriving that she was training the new receptionist I really like my GP practice!

Glad to have survived my first half term and hopefully DH will pass his resit on Weds then life may get back to some sort of normality!

Hello ladies....

Thank to all of you for lovely get well wishes... Sophie was sick for a full week followed by green diarrhoea! Poor thing... the poo is still green but at least not runny... Anyone else having spinach poos? On top of that, we went to a party last week and then a person there has now Schingles! I am so terrified that we now get chicken pox!!!

DF my MIL is coming over for whole two weeks too and then my SIL is coming for another two weeks after that. I like my in laws but I don't like having visitors in general. We get so many visitors and it is really tiring... I just had visitors for two weeks straight and with a baby it is NOT fun... they went out everyday and took DH with them out on wknd while I was home bound with LO. I did go out a bit but had to come back after 2-3 hours as LO would get tired... so unfair!!!

maxpower such a nice receptionist! wow....

Lavita great job on moving the babies... I still can't... secretly I love to sleep by her and am obssessed to watch her through the night but I do understand in your case that they will have much better sounder sleep and very important to move them. How is it going now? Are they still okay? Let's meet up girly with Strix and whoever else we can bring along... long time no see...

Sophie is now 4 months and today we went and bought a bright colour swimming costume as we are starting swimming class on Friday!!! So excited.... Can't believe that I am taking her to pool as I am such protective mum but oh well hopefully it will be fun :D

Hello everyone...

DF Know what you mean about being resentful of DH doing stuff. I get kinda jealous when my DP "pops out" for a swim or a pint with the lads. It takes a bit of getting used to...the fact that you can't just pop out quickly or on your own. Maybe when DD is older/on bottles, it'll be easier...
Delicate subject... but how is Bob's testicle?

Lavita I bet your girls look real cute in their sleeping bags. Do you dress them identical? I hope you've had a better night's sleep.

maxpower Awww... babies bring out the best in people.. what a lovely receptionist :) How did your DH get on in his resits yesterday?

PJen No spinach poos here - still English mustard colour and consistency... Good luck at the swimming lesson tomorrow.

Thanks to all who gave advice about sleeping positions and osteopaths. We decided to give the osteopath a go. DD has had two sessions and we;ve noticed a change so very relieved now. We put her to sleep on her left side now and she doesn't seem to mind. also doing more tummy time but she still doesn't like that.

I've had a lovely but busy week as it was my birthday.. wasn't looking forward to it beforehand.. not quite sure why.. but it turned out good in the end and spent the week meeting with friends for lunch and cooking for family in the evenings and at the weekend. and MIL came back from six-week holiday so she really noticed a big change in DD.
Thing DD may be starting to teeth (I know!! ....she's only 11 weeks). She's drooling, has red cheeks and stuffs her hand in her mouth and she's not napping for long during the day... or could it be something else... maybe a growth spurt...

hope everyone is ok and not down with horrible colds and flus. wasn't it freezing today? when is spring going to...spring??!!

hiya, hope all mummies and babies are doing well :)

looks like spring may be here at last as the sun is shining and its not completely baltic like yesterday!

Steno we have gnawing fists and loads of dribble here too (also 11 wks)but no red cheeks, i hope for the sake of my nipples that its not teething! and happy birthday :)

pjen how was swimming? we went for the first time today too, it was great! no tears and it appears to have knackered her out so a big success.

on a less positive note i got 2 baby books from the library yesterday about baby sleeping problems and they are terrible! I felt crap after about half a chapter of 'your baby shoud be...... and 'don't do this....or this...or this.' etc. etc. so they will be going back sharpish.

Also at yoga on Tuesday isabel was not a happy bunny, she generally doesn't enjoy lying down and so has to be picked up A LOT, and after i'd been struggling for a while the teacher came over and said something like she wouldn't be suprised if i was close to depression because of how demanding isabel is :( it really shocked me and made me feel like everyone must think isabel is an unhappy baby when i was just thinking all babies were like this.

max how were the resits?

lavita hope the girls are doing well in their own room :)

stenogirl snap! Bea is the same, HV said could be but teeth may take time to come through. She likes to chew things alot, also 11 weeks.

Bea has now dropped to the bottom percentile for weight, that's three since birth. She was weighed yesterday 8lb 9oz and still in newborn clothes, getting lots of use out of them. Still breastfeeding and topping up with a botgle as recommended, just feeling a little worried if she doesn't pick up, weekly weigh ins at the moment. Decided to loaf in bed with Bea and chill out.

Hi All,

Firstly - DH passed his resit - thank goodness! Really pleased for him though, and it means he gets a few weeks without having to study so he can really enjoy spending time with us again (without the guilt that he should be studying instead)

Pjen good luck with the swimming. I delegated all swimming responsibilities to DH as I'm terrified of water and don't want the DC's to pick up on it. It has the added bonus of meaning I get some down time on my own as well Glad Sophie's feeling better.

steno glad the oseopath seems to have helped. Some babies do hate being on their fronts, so I wouldn't worry about it.

kitty sorry you were so upset by the yoga teacher's comments. Some babies do need the reassurance of being held - in my case, DD was happy to be left lying down for ages at a time, but Matthew wants to be cuddled a lot. I think baby books can be helpful for finding suggestions of things you can try if you're struggling, but don't give them too much weight. You know your baby and you'll work it out together.

kellestar have a good day lounging

Matthew's teeth have been bothering him for a few weeks now (he'll be 11 weeks on Sunday) and today he developed the red cheeks to go along with them. Bless him, he doesn't complain though, just chews his hands and dribbles a bit.

Wish me luck, I'm going to the hairdressers this afternoon - an activity I loathe and detest!

How nice to see the sun....

Kellestar We're in sort of the same position. DD is 10 weeks today and is dropping off 9th centile. She was 8lbs born and now only 9lbs 6oz at weighing last week. GP has reported it to HV so have been asked to attend clinic on tues. i still want them to look into a posterior tongue tie though. She does have the symptoms and when she was 3 weeks old, i asked the bf counsellor to have a look. She said she may have but only small and wouldn't do anything about it as it shouldn't affect feeding . I also asked the GP to have a look last week and she didn't saying it was not relevant to bf and wouldn't treat it anyway!!!

Frankenfanny here. Have namechanged as my DD1 is too nosy.

I guess everyone is so busy with the wee ones not much time for posting here.
C,mon if we can't discuss baby poo here where can we .my DD has normal yellow BF poo but it is sticky like PVA glue....never had that before! and she poos all up her front and can pee up in the air like a boy!

I have been v tired and not much to report. Baby is getting big, trying to sit, chew hands and grab things. She is quite drooly, hope she does not get like her big bro who soaked his bibs and clothes! Had a dream she had 4 teeth but hopefully not a reality for a while...

maxpower congratulations to your DH!

I see some of you have been letting the baby sleep on their front. Mine sleeps better That way too, but I am worried about it so try to keep her
on her back...wondering if should let her go on her front?

I know babies dropping off in weight is worrying but hopefully they are just petite- I have a DD who is the smallest in her class so I have worried about her since she was a baby but she is just made that way.

kitty how thoughtless to make you feel bad about cuddling a little baby when she needs it . I expect Isabel just needs up to see what is going
on!

Hope to catch up some more soon but my keyboard is knacked and can only steal DHs iPad on a rare occasion. Hope everyone is well and getting more sleep .

finally prised the laptop out of DH's mitts.

kitty I have started reading these books with detachment, gleaning little bits of info that maybe useful. Our PN group have a box of books you can borrow, lots of books on sleeping, including a DVD. I've had a read through of them all and they differ in opinion so much. GF made me sad, not my kind of style at all. Hopefully you'll find a book that 'speaks' to you and helps. It's just a case of trial and error.

Have you got a mum's yoga group, they are sometimes much more open to baby's and needing to comfort. I think every baby needs comforting at some point, Bea can be quite demanding for cuddles now and then.

Maxpower congratualtions for DH, must be a big relief to you both and now you can relax for a while.

Franken DD's looks like chip shop curry sauce, quite seedy and the same gloopy consistency. It also smells quite tangy. It's put me off eating curry sauce, but not DH :) DD also manages to fountain like a boy. She is odd as she got it all in her face the other day and started lapping at it. :0 She will lick anything.

Went to an NCT sale earlier today and really chuffed with my bargains. Picked up a chicco polly high chair for £20, been watching them go on eBay for £60+ in our area. A few toys, clothes and a bumbo. I am such a bargain hunter, I have been looking forward to it for weeks :)

Bea is just going to be a slim baby, she's in the 25th percentile for height, so some things are quite short on her. Mini Mode seems to be the best fit for her at the moment. Asda and Next are big around the neck and waist. Can anyone recommend any more brands that are slim?

Colic is still hitting at 6pm and she'll keep going 'til 9ish. The only thing that seems to work with her is a warm bath with either of us and we let her have a float and kick about. Dentinox and gripe water don't seem to help at all, I did 10 days of each and no change. I hope she'll grow out of it soon, she's 11 weeks now.

Still waking her for her 2am feed, I don't feel comfortable with her 'going through' until she's at least 10lb.

Hi there 93pjb, nice to hear from you.

Congratulations to your DH maxpower and hope the haircut went ok.

Pjen I definitely don?t envy all those visitors you have coming! How did the swimming go? I want to do swimming with Bob but it?s so expensive.

stenogirl I am hoping to get Bob onto the odd bottle of expressed milk but not for a while. His testicle is still undescended. A GP friend of DH?s says she sees it a lot and they do usually come down. I hope Bob?s does.

I wonder too if Bob is starting teething, it seems too early but maybe it?s the beginning of a long process?

KittyBump Every time I read a book about babies I end up feeling like shit! I really must try to remember that it?s ok to trust my instincts. Most of the women from my NCT group seem to have their babies in some kind of routine or at least they are doing very well at getting them into their cots!
I think you should ignore the stupid yoga teacher, what does she know.

kellestar and CJMommy One of my NCT Group has a baby who lost weight at first but once she got him gaining again it all seemed to get easier. Hopefully this will be the same for you.
Kellestar your DD?s poos sound just like Bob?s.

Nice namechange frankenonsense do you think DD is stalking you! Bob has gone from pooing lots every day to only pooing every couple of days; when he does it?s explosive and DH gags and has to pass him on to me. I don?t mind dirty nappies but I am a bit squeamish about drool and dribble which is unfortunate as Bob has been dribbling and chewing loads lately.

I too went to an NCT sale today but got there late so didn?t manage to get much. I wanted some interactive toys and a coat but only managed to get a few toys. I met up with my very pregnant sister-in-law, She?s having an IVF baby too and she has a week until her due date. I can?t wait.

Bob went to sleep around half nine tonight, usually it?s 11. I have him here in bed next to me but am considering starting to put him in the crib to see if he will sleep there. I love co-sleeping but maybe I can do a bit of both. Once he is asleep he is in such a deep sleep; he slept through a fight in our street (I raced out to help someone who was getting beaten up) so maybe he won?t even notice that he?s not in bed with me. I am also going to try to get up earlier with him in the hope that he might start going down a bit earlier.

kittybump that was really insensitive of that teacher to say that to you :( Babies need lots of cuddles. If we can't cuddle our babies now, when can we? They grow up so quickly. Are you going to return to that class or find a new one?

maxpower that's brilliant news about your husband's resits. :)

kellestar What does Bea chew? I've tried a teddy comforter thing and a toy but DD doesn't know what to do with them and prefers hand but the skin on her hand is getting dry and raw...
Re: clothes... read on another thread that
Gap = really small
H&M = about right
Mothercare = about right
Asda = fat/wide babies
Tesco = really big
Next = big
M&S = big

frankenonsense My conversation topics these days are 3-dimensional: poo, naps and boobs

DD's poo looks like English mustard, sometimes Dijon and smells like Brewer's yeast tablets. They're explosive like Bob's, DuelingFanjo! I can hear her poo from another floor!

Don't know whether we're on a 12-week growth spurt or official teething, but DD is only napping for 30 mins at a time and was up until 11.30pm last night. we're officially knackered here...

Hope you're all having a good weekend. :)

lordy! not been on for a while - taken me a bit to catch up on all the news.

Baby books: threw them away after two weeks! Honestly, talk about making you feel like a crap parent when, in reality, no two babies are the same and frankly, what works for one won't necessarily work for another. I think it takes quite a significant size of ego to presume to tell others how to bring up their babies.

routine: back to 3hrly feeds here. DD made a decision about two weeks ago to sleep through the night, like, 12hrs. dropped two feeds in one hit....am not saying this to p*ss people off and its nothing DH and I have done. She just did it...

poos: yellow/mustard/sometimes dark yellow - blummin' loads of the stuff, frankly amazed its not ended up in her hair. The washing machine has been on pretty much everyday this week. sigh. been experimenting with washables and impressed by the lack of leakage in comparison with disposables. DD now has a recognisable 'poo' face (plus the unmissable squeltchy sound)

weight: some babes are small, end of. if they are in all other respects well/healthy then what's the worry? don't be pushed into doing stuff against your better judgement/instincts esp. weaning.

teething: when does it start? DD very drooly and lots and lots of hand chewing. also noticed bright red cheeks on occasion.

been super busy here - out and about with friends, had a filling at the dentist last week and lots of trips to the vet with a sick cat! hoping for a quiter time this week. DH also super busy at work and not around much which is sad. gorgeous day here today, veg seeds on the go and hoping this might be the start of spring

Not caught up properly but just wanted to say to cj your dr isn't right posterior TT can impact on BF. Personally if you want to continue I'd consider seeing a private lactation consultant, there are some links on a tongue tie support thread I started on the breast and bottle feeding board - will bump for you.

Also, kelle if you are worried maybe you could post on there too for some advice? Tiktok and others are v good, or I would suggest calling one of the BF lines. I think some babies are destined to be small, but falling through 3 percentiles might be a concern. How often is she feeding? Was it you who IIRC was saying she's not feeding for long stretches overnight as obviously they're improtant feeds for supply etc? I might have got confused with someone else. Anyway, I'm not an expert but I would really recommend getting some advice from the NCT or other BF helpline or the BF board here.

WLL she feeds regularly and well, taking what she needs, it's just not converting into weight. But she's so active and always on the go when she's awake. I am being referred to a lactation consultant through the NHS so shall see where that gets me.

I've been hit with another cold, just when I get on top of things anothern one seems to hit.

Loving these clear but cold days, wrapping up warm and going for a walk, it just feels much better than those miserable days.

I have made some of my pancakes, we have for tea, pancakes stuffed with ham, mushrooms and ricotta, with ratatouille and cheese on top/around. Baked in the oven it's just delicious. I've already made up my sweet pancake batter and prepared the options, fruit salad, snickers spread & ice cream. I love pancakes, my Mum hated them so we only ever had them pancake day and me and my Dad would go all out. He's coming over later for some.

Steno she mainly sucks her hands, but I've got some teething toys/rings for her as well. She finds the coldness really funny and it makes her giggle, she makes us laugh as she goes at them like I would a nice ribeye steak. She also likes to gum her bunny's ears, they were saturated the other night and his tail also gets a good gnawing too.

kellestar DD was weighed today - has gained but fallen another centile; now 3 since birth. We've been reffered to GP (policy so i'm told) and seeing a LC on friday Re: TT

WLL I've been following that tread, thanks for the advice. Hoping for some answers on friday.

OOPS! Sorry for typos - trying to pump at same time!!

Thanks for your good wishes.

Kellestar sorry to hear you're poorly again. I really sympathise as after I went back to work after having DD, I was ill for 6 months straight. It gave me an tiny bit of appreciation for how crappy life can be for people who live with permanant health problems. I'm hoping I won't have the same experience when I go back to work this time (fingers crossed)

rudbekia it's great when they start sleeping through isn't it? Just a block of unbroken sleep makes the world of difference. Hope your DH gets to spend a bit more time at home soon.

re teething, babies can have symptoms of teething at any time from birth until they all come through. I found that DD would have some symptoms of teething for a few days at a time then it would settle. IIRC she started having symptoms at about 10wks and didn't get her first tooth until 11 months. I think Matthew will be quicker getting his teeth as you could see his top front 2 teeth under the gum as soon as he was born.

Had a lovely walk round some local gardens with DH and Matthew yesterday. This sunshine is glorious, I hope it lasts.

Anybody get their census yet? I discovered 2 questions I couldn't really answer for Matthew - one was about what language he speaks (erm does goo-goo-gaa-gaa count? ) and the other was where did he live one year ago. I rang the helpline who said put English as that is what he will speak and just put my address down for the other one. Interesting that he can be considered to have been living somewhere 9 months before he legally existed

Not caught up properly but just wanted to say hi to all and great to hear of better sleep and some more routines taking shape - not that thats so important though... These things happen in their own time DF, the most important thing is that you are enjoying Bob . Sleeping with them is lovely isn't it. I love my bed side cot as I've got the best of both worlds, my own bed to stretch out in but my little Jude bear right next to me .

Jude is fab! Doing really well... not sleeping through but doing nice long stretches at night. I'm heading to friends overnight sunday / monday with just Jude and it will be lovely! I'll miss my 2 big boys but nice to spend some time with just the wee guy.

Anyway, bed for me! I've been wanting an early night all week and I always find something to do!

Met up with a good friend from work (who's also on mat leave) yesterday. She was telling me her birth story - baby needed resuscitating for 30mins after she was born - just made me extra grateful that my delivery was so straightforward this time round. Anyway, she and baby are really well and it was lovely to see them.

DH has the weekend off which is a rarity so I'm hoping the weather will be ok and we can take DD to the park together.

kitty DD1 was just like that, I don't think I put her down for the first four months of her life. Don't worry about it, some babies like being held and others (like DS) like being in a bouncer.

Took Kira for her first jabs yesterday (should have been second but she's been ill). She really didn't like them and let us know it all evening. Thankfully she slept okay last night but she's got a bruise on each leg from the needle.

I'm looking forward to july and mt uncle's wedding, I can't wait to see my dad's side of the family - last time I saw them was at my wedding two years ago. It'll be nice to get chance to talk to them instead of having to try and speak to everyone.

We still haven't got much of a routine but Kira generally has a feed between 7-8pm and then sleeps until anywhere between 2-5am then gets up about 6-7 properly. Hopefully I haven't just jinxed it I'm starting to feel a bit more human and not a zombie.

met a really annoying woman in the supermarket today. DS was grizzling at the checkout because he was tired, so I was leaving him to drop off to sleep. Woman joined the queue behind us and started fussing over him. That was ok, I'm quite used to it. During the next 5 mins she proceeded to insist that he needed a dummy (he does have one but it was in the car), that he shouldn't have been wearing the cardigan that he was wearing as the zip would rub on him (no, it wasn't) and that he had colic (er, no he doesn't). I was trying to be nice and just kept saying that he was tired - to prove I was right, he fell asleep while I was packing the shopping - oh, which she also tried to interfere with! What really got me was that at one piint she said, "well, you know best" in a tone of voice that clearly implied that I didn't have a clue what I was doing with him By the time I was finished I just wanted to yell at her to piss off and leave me alone - very unlike me I can assure you

he he, I get 'ooh it's time for a feed by the sound of it' a lot. Usually just after I have fed him and when he is grizzling because he has wind or is tired.

I'm also getting a lot of 'is he good?' and 'is he sleeping through?'.

I'm feeling a lot more relaxed about my choices to co sleep now, it works for us so I will keep it up :)