July 2009: Only &*%$ days till Christmas!

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hey all! Thought I'd start.

Hi everyone,

Daytimes are getting as bad as the night times here and night times are getting a whole lot worse :(. Noah just wants me all the time lately, won't go to dh and if he has to stay with him while i go out he just screams. He settles pretty quickly once i've gone but it makes it hard on me :(. Every night he's coming in with me now and just will not lie back down once he's awake. As I walk into his room his arms are straight up for me to pick him out of his cot. I can't believe i've let it get to this cos i always used to say 'oh i'd never let Lewis in my bed' But then again Lewis slept through in his own room from 7 week old. I just don't even know if my previous plan of getting dh to deal with Noah on his 4 nights off at somw point will work with how he's been with dh, he only wants me :(. I wouldn't mind so much if he went straight back to sleep in my bed but he doesn't always. He sometimes just lays there awake, tossing and turning for 2+hours. Or the last few nights he's been asleep but a vwry unsettled moving about sleep that involves me getting punched and kicked and not sleeping. I just want him to sleep in his cot. The other thing that winds me up is that on a Friday when he sleeps at my parents he sleeps all night with no probs.

Well done if you made it to the end of that ramble. Sorry :o

Hope everyone is ok :)

phoenix: he's a monkey like becca. Managed to get her sorted but it did involved alot of crying. The fact he sleeps ok for your parents shows he can do it and has different expectations. He knows that they won't take him into bed and thus doesn't bother trying. It is REALLY hard but it is worth the effort for a few nights (or in the case of rebecca a week or 2) of being harsh to get your own bed back. It obviously shows he's smart too as he's worked it all out buy that means he's smart to work out when you are serious with it. Hope it gets sorted. Sympathise with the wriggling, kicking thing. Becca did that lots and still does it in the morning if she wakes early.

QF: Mixer taps are the spawn of the devil. if you raise the shower head up the cold pressure is greater than the hot so it gets colder the higher it is etc. had no shower when we lived in leicester and I was pg with beth. Even at 9mths had to haul myself in and out of a bath every morning for a wash.

Oh yes the little sod knows exactly what he's doing :o. How did you do it with Becca Ali?

Well every time we put her in her cot to sleep she started wailing and standing up etc. had tried 2 weeks of going and shusshing etc and it was just getting worse so one night i was just like ENOUGH of this nonesense!

We put her down and she cried and cried so after 15/10 mins (i timed it on the clock!) I went back and cuddled her then left her again. This led to MORE crying ad so left her 5 mins longer than last time. ETC that night she woke and cried and timed it again. Was so tired I physically couldn't get out of bed due to all the night wakings etc. Was just about ot give up (9.5mins!) when she sudddenly went to sleep. That was the moment we had a break through. After that it took less and less time for her to settle in the evening (down to 5 mins crying each time) and same in the night.

Now after a few weeks of this she's going down quietly for her naps and bed at night.

I will say also that we reinstated her bedtime routine a bit more. Made sure she gets milk, teeth, sleeping bag, song (1), lights off. And stuck to it because was always more stru=ict about keeping beth's routine the same but becca's was a bit slap dash as we were making sure beth's was still happening.

Ironically, beth has taken to getting out of bed in the evening. Last night was night 2 (after a previous incident where she cried so much she made herself sick!) She was frog marched to bed (she's 4.5) and told that if she got up once more she would have her new lip balm confiscated and no matter how much she cried I was not coming back upstairs. It seemed to work :) I think she's only started it recently after all the problems with becca so hopefully now she's settled they will both return to normal.

In other news, been looking at holidays... ouch at prices. Phoned my sister to see if they wanted to share a cottage as we used to do with my grandparents when we were kids. basically go on holiday together but do stuff separately unless we all wanted to do the same thing. Worked well back then and her husband said he'd see what she said as she was out so I'm hopeful as they are poorer than us so might not get away either otherwise and Julie's job means she has to take hols in the summer hols so price a problem for them too.

it's so expensive holidays when you are stuck with school hols. We are going camping to keswick when there is a christian covention on. It will cost us 300 but that includes all our meals in a communal tent and kids clubs in the morning time off from the older 2! We do have to do 1 day in the kitchen but not bad for 7 days!

QF ooo are you doing keswick convention? We did that when I was a kid. last thing I went to was soul survivor with youth BK. Not ventured to anything since though going on church weekend away. adrian plass is speaking. Well looking forward to it. Hope you have a good time.

ARGH Tristan is the worst sleepe9r ever. Phoenix I know how you are feeling. DH and I hardly have a life as he wakes on and off from midnight to 5am and wants to be in our bed - and then back in his cot - then back in our bed. It goes on for hours............he really needs to be in another room but we can't afford to move so we are stuck. Sorry for the moan but it is driving us beserk.

Holiday we have just booked a 9 day trip (incl the flying days) back home (San Francisco). It has cost us a bomb and I have to get a leave of absence for DS1 as it is during the school term. I am not being reckless and just pulling him out for a holiday - it is by grandfather's 80th bday celebration - but I fear the Headteacher's reaction. It is hard as I am from another country and this bday is a big deal. My grandfather helped raise me (my mother had me very young) and I hate to say it, but who knows if I will see him again after this trip. I am not looking forward to the scolding I will get. DS1 is only 5 - not like he is doing exams or anything full on. {hmm]

Jetli how's your bum btw? Lol. Ahhh. I forget all those lovely aspects of pregnancy. You must not have much longer.

QF Ali Patchy Baby hi!!!

Who fancies a new title for this thread. Something about spring and hoping our toddlers will be sleeping through?

sleeping through thread sounds good. Alfie has a cold so back to frequent waking and restlessnesss :( I think it is just yet another development stage as all our toddlers seem to be up to it
Fin also keeps trying to get up at 4 or 5 in the morning which is waking the whole house I feel dead on my feet today as a result
I can't start a new thread on my phone but how about something like toddling towards 2 and a full nights sleep!?

Love that suggestion QueenFee so started new thread here if the link doesn't work (cos I've done it on iPhone) then it's in post natal clubs :o

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