Could you please find time to watch this film?

[Jane444]

Hi I'm new to this forum and I think the implications of this film are incredibly important for not only this generation but future generations. All I ask is that you find some time to watch it and if it effects you to share it with your friends and family. Thank you.

Haven't got time now as I see it is quite long but will try .

Thanks, yes it is quite long ill just explain a bit about it. It's called The Obama Deception and aims to expose the inherent corruption and hidden controllers in the American political system that is not only endemic in the Democratic party but also the Republican. Although this focuses on US politics the implications are far reaching and include our own as well as many other governments. I know you all have busy lives but I think this is so important its worth finding time for and I hope you can.

It's not exactly news that US politicians are subject to influence by big business and lobby groups. Starts with the mammoth amounts of cash it takes to get elected and then those who have supplied the 'patronage' want something in return. Rumsfeld was in it up to his chin. It's also not a surprise (or shouldn't be) if politicians promise something to get elected and then have to water it down or change it completely once in power. The banking crisis put the current administration on the back foot, for example, and I'm sure a lot of things that got done in the haste to fix it would not have happened in other circumstances. Obama is at the end of his honeymoon period and the danger of him offering so much hope and change was always going to be that if something amazing didn't happen pretty quickly to improve lives, then he would be on the end of a lot of flak whatever he did. The medical-care debate was an example of the polarisation and inequality in the American society. At one end, people dying because of poverty... at the other, people who think sharing wealth around is akin to communism.

Our own government is also subject to outside pressures of markets, lobby groups and big business. But we have a very transparent system of financing politicians and politicial parties, and getting elected is not as expensive or as complex a process as in the US. We still have a press that are unafraid to shine lights into uncomfortable areas e.g. the MP expenses scandal. It's also a less polarised type of politics... there's more consensus than we think.

And if the coalition government hasn't learned the lesson of being too close in the 'special relationship', trotting obediently off to war etc., then I shall be very disappointed.

The point of this film is much more than the corrupt puppet back and forth politics we see here, in the US and many other countries and what much of the public knows about. It's basically saying there is a bigger agenda behind it all with far bigger interests than even individual corporations. Watch it and judge for yourself, I personally found it very enlightening and it very much rung true but don't take my word for it.

Well I wouldn't recommend watching this video. It is just another conspiracy theory rant really. Apparently Obama is engineering a world dictatorship, and the financial crisis was planned. Not much different to those nutters who think that 9/11 was a CIA conspiracy (note I didn't watch all of the video, as it is two hours long, so who knows perhaps the 9/11 conspiracy is in there too).

American politics are amazingly openly corrupt though. When we were living in NYC the local senator paid for our school to have air conditioning and in return the school sent letters to each parent saying what a wonderful person he was (this was a few months before State elections). We went to a fair sponsored by another politician. It was all very different. News reporting is all very partisan too - we used to enjoy watching MSNBC (fervently Democratic leaning) alternating with Fox News (rabidly right wing).

Ah, I've watched for a few more minutes, and one of the conspiracy nutters has been wheeled out, Webster Tarpley (got to love those American names) who not only thinks that 911 was a conspiracy, but global warming too. Oh, and all the C20th wars were started by Britain too (somehow fighting lots of wars was supposed to help us stay great, rather than pretty much destroying the empire as they did). He seems to think that Britain is rather more important than it is, which I suppose might be considered flattering if it wasn't so daft.

Next is Gerald Celente, a doom predictor who said that last year there would be a second American Revolution, and is currently saying that everyone should become survivalists.

Then there is a chunk of rewriting history, and I got bored. If to prove your case you have to manipulate the truth, then your argument can't be very strong. Flipping ahead there is some really fairly wonderfully silly stuff, all said by a narrator with one of those film trailor voices. Oh, and then Godwin's rule gets invoked, when global warming is compared to Nazi propaganda, even sillier, Cap and Trade and Carbon Taxes will "destroy human society" causing "genocide on a massive scale" with "deaths measured in the billions"

There an interesting bit on proposal to set up national service - something similar to that proposed by the Coalition, ie youth service for a few months, plus a plan for some community service for school students - something that is generally welcomed by the more conservative leaning here in the UK as good for character/giving back to the community, but in this video is apparently really designed to build a private army (a "paramilitary security force") for Obama through a personality cult aka "the way you get a population to enslave itself"

Oh and then there is the terrible terrible trying to introduce some sort of gun control. This includes the claim that Obama's atourney general is trying to stop young people from competing in gun sports, with a bill, that if you pause the video and look at it, is designed to prohibit youths from owning semiautomatic assault weapons, prevent the sale of hand guns to the under 21, and ensure that those who do own guns keep them securely locked away so that children can't access them. Seems very sensible really. But then the US attachment to gun ownership seems bizarre to me.

Then there is some really odd stuff about domination in Africa, where a Kenyan politician is claimed to be Obama's cousin (on further investigation it turns out this means they both share a parent from the Luo group, comprising of some 3 million people, so not exactly a close relationship).

Anyway, watch if you have time to spare and you find conspiracy theorists interesting in their nuttiness.