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What Laws Would You Change?

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Chil1234 · 01/07/2010 18:57

Uncle Nick wants us to nominate laws and regulations we'd like to see repealed or abolished.

Do we still have that one where you need a different CRB check every time you join up with something where you come into contact with children? That one always struck me as daft.

What laws would you like to see consigned to history?

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toccatanfudge · 01/07/2010 19:00

yes you still need separate CRB checks for everything that requires a CRB.

So my best friend has

a CRB for her lunch time supervisor job
a CRB for going into her DD's school to help with reading (and also to go into help with assembly once a month)
a CRB for her church work
and is just in the process of getting a CRB done to go and help at her other DD's school....

toccatanfudge · 01/07/2010 19:00

oh I think she also has a CRB for Brownies that she helps with sometimes as well

scaryteacher · 02/07/2010 09:59

-CRBs
-the ruling that you can't do small electrical jobs in your own home
-EPC (that one is EU law though)
-extradition treaties that favour the US
-any EU rules that don't benefit the UK (I'd like to see us totally renegotiate the basis on which we are in the EU anyway, as it takes much and delivers little)

  • redrafting of the anti-terrorist legislation, or at least a re-examination of it's rather draconian powers
donnie · 02/07/2010 10:04

I think the laws on drinking and driving need to be revised. My own opinion is that no alcohol at all should be imbibed prior to driving. Plus fewer fudges in the actual categorisation of the sentencing - eg is it 'careless' driving or 'dangerous' driving.

donnie · 02/07/2010 10:06

oh yes, scaryteacher agree re: the anti-terrorist legislation. Control Orders are very very dodgy - you don't need to be charged with anything in order to have one applied. They are a terrible breach of human rights and civil liberties.They are home imprisonment with no trial, no case and no charge.

scaryteacher · 02/07/2010 13:17

Problem with changing the drink/driving laws Donnie is that we all manufacture a certain amount of alcohol in our bodies and so you have a problem. I would like to see more emphasis on drugging and driving.

BarmyArmy · 02/07/2010 16:24

I would repeal all laws designed to stop you breaking an already existing law, e.g. the anti-drink driving law. Why should the law make it a criminal offence to drink and drive, when there is already an offence of dangerous driving or driving without due care and attention?

The misuse of alcohol could be an aggravating factor to be taken into consideration when passing sentence but the law as it presently stands treats us all as children and doesn't allow people to make decisions for themselves.

I say this as someone that has lost friends and colleagues to drink driving.

The same goes for the law on mobile phones and driving.

But I expect most people on here to disagree because the majority are Mothers and Mothers are, almost by definition, overly protective.

Chil1234 · 02/07/2010 17:30

I don't think you have to be a mother to see the hole in your argument BarmyArmy. People making decisions for themselves usually plump for 'no-one else should do this whilst driving but I can do it perfectly safely'. Judgement is biased when we are judging ourselves. Alcohol impairs our ability to make rational decisions as well as ability to drive....

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MitchyInge · 02/07/2010 17:31

hunting act

MitchyInge · 02/07/2010 19:57

smoking ban

mental health act

speed limits

some bits of offences against the person

prevention of terrorism act

do away with most inchoate offences

legalise pretty much most drugs

scottishmummy · 02/07/2010 20:13

spurious stop and search
draconian aspect of anti terrorism

NetworkGuy · 03/07/2010 12:08

Crumbs, MitchyInge, you're looking to lose win friends and influence people...

hunting act
smoking ban
mental health act
speed limits
some bits of offences against the person
prevention of terrorism act
do away with most inchoate offences
legalise pretty much most drugs

There may be a libertarian agenda in there, but if you propose to do away with speed limits and allow drugs you are perhaps just posting for effect.

I certainly wouldn't agree on repealing the hunting act, don't know what you meant when you wrote "most inchoate offences" and you'd need to clarify which aspects of both the mental health act and offences against the person you consider in need of removal.

BarmyArmy · 03/07/2010 13:42

Chil1234, that point doesn't have any relevance. Mine is an argument from principle - happy to explore where we end up if we follow it to its logical conclusion but I think it not unreasonable to let people take more responsibility for their lives.

MitchyInge · 03/07/2010 20:19

Inchoate - you know, where people can be convicted of not quite fully commiting an offence.

I really do think speed limits on most longish motorways are a bit annoying, would like to see them raised or abolished. Probably have to improve the way we get on and off them since we do that more often in much smaller stretches than an autobahn.

Think you'll find plenty of people who'd like the smoking ban revised, let establishments choose whether or not to permit smoking on their premises. Let customers vote with their feet.

And hunting act is obviously discriminatory, not much explanation needed for hoping for repeal.

hormonesnomore · 03/07/2010 21:00

Oh please don't ask for the smoking ban to be revised - I think it should be taken further and smoking outlawed altogether. Everywhere. And I'm an ex-smoker.

I'd like Sunday trading laws in England to be brought into line with Scotland's. There, if a shop is open 24hrs a day, it is literally open 24/7. Much more sensible imo.

victoriascrumptious · 04/07/2010 09:58

I'm a supporter of hunting but I wouldnt really want the law repealed. The majority of the country as far as I can see want it to stay banned

frakkit · 04/07/2010 10:22

CRBs should have been partly replaced with the ISA check but that plan was halted....so I'd like to see ISA back on track!

I think in general we need fewer, clearer laws. There are some silly ones that were never repealed though...

Jaybird37 · 10/07/2010 18:00

Repeal that ridiculous one way treaty for extradition to the USA. Definitely need to reclaim sovereignty on that one.

BarmyArmy · 12/07/2010 16:42

All 'equality' legislation; Treaty of Rome...

mumatron3000 · 15/07/2010 15:46

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Chil1234 · 15/07/2010 15:49

Think we should revert the 'detention without trial' law back down to where it started out... a day or two I think it was. The 90 day idea was bloody scary.

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jodevizes · 15/07/2010 18:07

Ban civil parking wardens and bring them all into the police service again.

Make it illegal to just take a picture and send you a parking ticket.

Probably repeal the extra 1,400 odd laws that carry a prison sentence and brought in by new labour rabble.

grannieonabike · 21/07/2010 09:46

The way developers get away with murder really exercises me. They apply for planning permission for, say, a five-stroey building, then they stick another two storeys on top with what seems like no-one stopping them. So change the planning laws - make the whole process much more transparent, ie who the companies are who want to develop a particular area, exactly what they intend to do, who they are contracting out to. You could even have a page in a local newspaper devoted to telling us what is being planned for our area. I know people can find these things out for themselves, but most don't have the time.

And I think the fishing laws are unfair on Scottish people.

SwansEatQuince · 21/07/2010 09:53

Ban windfarms in areas of outstanding natural beauty.

Allow Britain's tenant farmers the Right to Buy their own farms.

Long term jail sentences for those who poison wild birds ie eagles and red kites. Jail the landowner if necessary.

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