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Lib/Lab coalition? UK implications?

32 replies

MumInBeds · 10/05/2010 18:03

I was pondering how a Lib/Lab would work as it doesn't have a working majority and friend on FB put in reply "They would bring in the Welsh and the Scots nationalists which would mean loads of spending cuts for England and their spending will be protected so you and I in England will be paying off the deficiet while our celt friends will have their service ring fenced..... can't blame them for putting their peeps first pity our politicians don't do the same"

That hadn't occurred to me before, could this further divide the UK?

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WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:11

It'll be like the last days of the Major Govt when every MP's vote counted - to the extent that they wheeled one into the Commons to vote while he was in an oxygen tent!

Meanwhile the pund will plummet - our bonds will be downrated - our deficit will increase.

And because the British people cannot stand unfairness they will vote the Tories in by a landslide at the next election - which will probably be around October when the rainbow Coalition falls apart.

Bring it on!

dreamingofsun · 10/05/2010 18:22

there are too many people on benefits and working for the public sector for a tory landslide

Piffle · 10/05/2010 18:22

They also need the DUP so basically it's not going to happen

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:23

I work for the public sector and I would welcome a Tory landslide

dreamingofsun · 10/05/2010 18:26

wetaug - very pleased to here that.

i'm so mad. this current situation is so undemocratic - what right has nick clegg got to decide who governs. conservatives got the most votes and MPs elected, therefore they shoudl govern. end of story

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:28

Agree Dreaming

What these last few days has taught me is that I never want PR.

Imagine going through this mess every time.

So much for all the bullshit 'working together' we heard during the leader's debate.

ahundredtimes · 10/05/2010 18:31

No this situation this is highly democratic

this is what democracy looks like

ahundredtimes · 10/05/2010 18:31

Anyway, I don't see that it is really a mess

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:32

Well give me the Taliban / Kim Jong Il any day

ahundredtimes · 10/05/2010 18:33

And dreaming -

I think you might have missed something -

the conservatives failed to win an outright majority. They didn't win the election.

That's why they aren't currently governing

ahundredtimes · 10/05/2010 18:33

wetaugust - okay, will whizz you over to Taliban-run country pronto, obviously that's hugely preferable to a democracy

dreamingofsun · 10/05/2010 18:34

how can it be democratic if the party that gets the most votes doesn't get elected? how can nick clegg negotiating with labour/conservative be democratic?

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:35

Under PR it could be the BNP / Monster raving Loonies who's now be negoiating

ahundredtimes · 10/05/2010 18:36

Well.

If they don't win a majority in the house, then they can't govern can they? And remember their vote share was 37%

The country votes in a parliament. In this case they voted in a hung parliament. Now the politicians have to work out how to make the parliament work. So they negotiate.

I don't understand why you think that undemocratic tbh

MintHumbug · 10/05/2010 18:36

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dreamingofsun · 10/05/2010 18:38

ahundred - but they got more than anyone else. the majority of the public voted for them, so what right do politicians have to ignore this and let someone else rule?

PricklyThistle · 10/05/2010 18:38

Because it's not most votes, it's most seats - first past the post. Did you ever think we did live in a democracy?!

As far as OP's statement - bring it on! Hopefully this will indeed divide the UK...

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:39

Totally agree with your analysis MintHumbug.

I didn't actually vote Tory - my politics are single issue - Get us out of Europe

ahundredtimes · 10/05/2010 18:42

Mint - I don't think your prognosis is right though.

More people want to keep the Tories out than keep them in.

Also if Labour agree to parliamentary reform within a fixed term - then they could keep the Tories out for YEARS

Labour might well just be showing greater willingness to negotiate and power share

Tories have no right to automatic power - if parliament moves in a way to form a coalition against them

Piffle · 10/05/2010 18:43

I think a minority Tory government will rise from the flames of these post election discussions...
Then the other 63% in parliament can deny every bill they try to pass through... Like bringing back hunting for one as well as other more important ones (important to Tories, also important to less well off folks (the denying of them I mean)

So the Tories will prove themselves for the blundering fools they are
And another election will decide the matter properly and if by some miracle the Tories do a good job, then they should be voted in on a landslide...
right off to catch that bloody pig flying round outside, while I slip on the ice of hell freezing over

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:44

Keep believing it Ahundredtimes.

And don't forget it works both ways and it could be Labour that's out for YEARS

ahundredtimes · 10/05/2010 18:45

Yes absolutely WetAugust, that's perfectly possible too.

Piffle · 10/05/2010 18:46

I'm a staunch Labour supporter but I think any coalition is doomed for them

Alouiseg · 10/05/2010 18:49

On reflection we need short term Martial Law. Those marvellous Generals and Admirals can take over and run the country with decisive precision.

In the meantime the silly little politicians can stop sucking up to parties that they don't actually agree with and put together a fresh system.

MintHumbug · 10/05/2010 18:49

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