i take it you've all seen this on the news or on here..nick clegg and protesters for PR today in london

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I've been out tonight and not seen the news...i don't know what the coverage has been, but this is nick clegg accepting the takebackparliament petition...hope he's really listening

here

Screamin - what makes you say that TBP want a majority government? I can find nothing that says that at all. They say:

"It is time for the UK to move to a proportional system that ties a party's share of seats to its share of votes across the country. This is the fairest system. It would ensure everyone's vote counts; it would offer voters more choice and it would produce a government and Parliament that represents the British people."

Well I hate to think how many seats the BNP will get because I have spoken to a lot of people who said out of protest at PR they will put the BNP as their second vote.

Personally I would have to put UKIP.

We will have to see.

"because thats what was all over their facebook page on Friday. "

I don't do facebook, so who what and how??

screamin - not saying you are wrong would just like to see it for myself because TBP is a an umbrella for a laege number of electoral reform campaign groups, all with their own ideas.

For many MPs the constituency link is not relevant.

Take my SIL's yorkshire constituency - Ed Balls is the newly re-elected MP there. Never set foot in Yorkshire until presented with a safe Labour seat. Not sure how much time he spends there now, tbh

atlantis - I suspect those "BNP second" people are tories and the BNP would be eliminated within a seat before the tories are!

Out of protest at PR they'd put BNP as their second vote? Anyone voting for the BNP regardless of whether it is a first or second vote is playing a dangerous game and obviously not thinking about the interests of the county. So going back to your initial point Atlantis, that is what I call selfish.

There would still be a constituency link with multi-member STV. The constituencies would be bigger, but they would have more MPs to cover them. And the MPs within a constituency would be competing to help constituents.

useful q&a on STV

Couldn't get that link to work

try accessing it from here (was a pdf document)

Thanks - worked perfectly So, a fairer system for the electorate then.

that is what I believe

kerrist!

yes you might get a bnp MP or two...THAT'S CALLED DEMOCRACY!!!

you don't get to say, oh well, loads of people voted for you, but heyho, we don't like what you stand for so you don't get into govt.

we don't live in a democracy at the moment, not in any real sense.