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Facebook links opposing Lib-Con love-in

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 08/05/2010 22:47

Feeling really anxious about what's going to happen - especially the prospect of Nick Clegg going along with the Tories. I've always opposed what the Tories stand for and feel pretty betrayed about my vote being used to put that arse Cameron into No.10.

Anyway, found a couple of links on FB if you're on there and want to join:

We Don't Want The Liberal Democrats to Make a Deal With The Conservatives

Stop the Libdem-Tory Coalition

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tweetymum · 08/05/2010 22:50

I've already joined and I urge Lib Dem members who are concerned to do the same.

NathanBarley · 08/05/2010 23:00

Thanks, joined

Chil1234 · 09/05/2010 12:10

But did none of you listen to Clegg when he said he would work first with the party that got the most seats?... Why does this situation come as a surprise?

NathanBarley · 09/05/2010 12:15

It doesn't come as a surprise, but this decision is not only his to make. He must take into account this wishes of his electorate.

Chil1234 · 09/05/2010 12:21

And what if his electorate are equally unhappy about him working with the failed Labour government (which many of them are)? You voted for him in the full knowledge that working with the Conservatives was the most likely outcome. You've had your democratic say.

NathanBarley · 09/05/2010 21:07

That's nonsense Chil, I voted for the party I want in government, as I presume you did.

MNHubbie · 09/05/2010 21:20

Nearly 25% voted Lib Dem and their vote share actually rose whilst their seats fell. Nearly 30% voted Labour. The Cons got around 36% (all off the top of my head so please don't rip me to pieces if I'm off by a percentage point or two).

Clegg did NOT say he WOULD form a government with the party with the greatest number of votes he said he would SEEK to form a government with them. There is a whole world of difference.

My hope is that he will listen to the spirit of Brown's speech that I interpreted as "You MUST work with Cameron first and SEEK common ground... and then when you find none come back to us and here is a list of things we have in common... oh and I'll throw in not just a review into PR but actual PR too... Oh and you can have my head on a plate."

A Lib-Lab-SNP pact is a real possibility but highly unlikely. I can't see how a Con-Lib pact would work as there isn't enough common ground on anything unless they dump Cameron and bring back Ken Clark.

Tashtodd · 09/05/2010 21:25

It's going to happen in some form. Just hold your nose like us Tories will have to.

vesela · 09/05/2010 21:45

Elephants - I don't see how you can feel betrayed. The Lib Dems made it clear this was an option, depending on how the electorate decided. And they didn't go into the election holding hands with Labour.

And there is enough common ground - there has to be. You can find common ground between all parties that aren't extremists.

NathanBarley · 09/05/2010 22:03

it would be a betrayal - to both parties - as on many issues they are idealogically opposed. Forget manifestos and promises and look at what these parties actually stand for and whose interests they represent.

crystal123 · 09/05/2010 22:07

Must read link, but this aint gonna be a 'love in' more a'hate fest'

Chil1234 · 10/05/2010 06:56

"That's nonsense Chil, I voted for the party I want in government, as I presume you did."

Yes I did. But the party you want in government got there partly on a promise of electoral reform - the others didn't. Electoral reform would mean coalition governments are the norm rather than the exception and, in that light, your party has a special obligation to lead by example, compromise some of their manifesto pledges and demonstrate how to successfully form a healthy working coalition. In this instance, that means working with the Conservatives (as they indicated all along). The Conservatives will also have to compromise on some of their election pledges - which not all of their supporters will be happy with either.

Welcome to what PR means in practice. You can't write on your ballot paper.. 'I'm voting for you but only if you don't collaborate with them'

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