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Fellow Swingers....

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Cablepower · 03/05/2010 23:14

At risk of sounding repetitive and annoying scary teacher further.... I am even more resolved to swing from voting Tory to voting LIB DEM on Thursday. Here's why:

It would benefit my family to vote TORY. My husband is a high earner in the city. But I am voting LIB DEM. This is not a protest vote but using a bit of savvy, some heart and raw frustration with the disproportion of wealth across the UK. If I vote Tory it's a narrow, selfish vote.

When CEOs of supermarkets and newspaper editors start using scare tactics, you know it's a desperate bid to protect the stranglehold our business leaders and media have over our politicians. To protect the power of big corporations.

I want a leadership with the courage to break up the monopolies that close down local shops, pubs, post offices and bus routes. But politicians are in the pockets of businessmen that pull the strings.

Their wives are not.

Businesspeople will put economy first and we have witnessed systematic failure in these corporations of huge proportions motivated by personal greed.

I do not want to be governed by leadership that fails to notice that according to UNICEF our kids are the unhappiest in Europe. How many are on anti depressants, take Class A drugs, self harm, have under-age sex, binge drink, over eat, under eat? The happiest nations in the world are often the poorest economically speaking.

Current economics is blind to the damage being done to our environment. By shopping in these supermarkets we as consumers are facilitating a depletion of resources that will deny our children fish, farmland and forests and we buy without thought from companies that pollute our world. Try buying British next supermarket shopping trip. See how little we now produce in the UK. But businessmen and politicians alike believe that saving the planet means destroying the economy. The same economy that is hanging in by a thread? They fear media backlash and they fear for their jobs.

We all need to look responsibly at the big picture, to be prepared to take the pain and to change our ways. To be unselfish in our vote. Mums are good at that. But we need to use our vote and vote with our head, hearts and a wish for a better future not based on monetary well being. Do we have the personal courage to be the change that we want from our politicians?

I want a political system strong enough to believe in us by allowing real democracy. Our electoral system is skewed in favour of two main parties. One has failed miserably to deliver in thirteen years. The other is trying bully tactics to scare us away from a party that offers the closest thing to electoral reform and a real democracy.

The LIB DEMS did not want IRAQ and have always had a strong environmental voice. Vince Cable has demonstrated sound economic judgment and forecast the banking fiasco well before the other two parties woke up to it. They want to offer us real democracy via proportional representation. If that means instability in economics bring it on...we are living with it daily and many world government do extremely well on a hung parliament.

Vince Cable will take my husband's bonus and distribute it fairly. That's the right thing to do. I trust and hope LIB DEMS will start again. I know they are not perfect but I have looked hard at all the manifestos and I like what I see. Not for me but for Britain as a whole. I will not waste my vote. I will vote for the LIB DEMS...and hope for a different future based on values that are not measured by the strength of the pound.

If you have strong conviction in voting Labour or Conservatives then I respect your beliefs. But many of us have sat on fences. If we don't vote we deserve more of the same. I want something different and better which is why after much soul searching...I'll be voting LIB DEM.

Anybody else swinging up there on the fence?

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vesela · 03/05/2010 23:22

I was quite proud of the fact we'd had no Lib Dem politrollers on here so far.

Meglet · 03/05/2010 23:25

And I assumed this was going to be a thread by SGB

MortaIWombat · 03/05/2010 23:36

There's a lovely thread just for politrolls you should read, cablepower.

Cablepower · 03/05/2010 23:48

Sorry Awesome Wellies...my first day. Should I know what a politroller is? What thread should I be looking at?

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Kevlarhead · 04/05/2010 00:02

Cablepower... it's fairly obvious it's your first day.

The thread AW is referring to is here

A "politroller" is a political troll who starts threads for the sole purpose of broadcasting party political propaganda.

Welcome to Mumsnet BTW. I hope you enjoy your stay, and find reason to remain after the election.

Cablepower · 04/05/2010 00:13

My God! Thank you Kevlarhead.

I seem to have accomplished so much in one day on Mumsnet. Having gone from finding out how exactly our voting system works to propagandist so soon?

Seriously though...slightly hurt. Don't confuse passion and political frustration with preaching propaganda. Is there a lie detector test? Just a Mum who wants a fair system and I chose the name cause I really do like Vince Cable. Is that OK?

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Kevlarhead · 04/05/2010 00:41

Yeah, I suppose. I'm professionally apathetic tho, so I'm not the best person to ask.

Problem is that this place has been overrun with assorted nutters lately, attempting leverage the legendary "Power of Mumsnet" to swing the election their way. For now, the main bearpit seems to have shifted from AIBU to here. Newly joined types whose first post is of, uh, testing length and espousing a particular political view tend to be flagged as trolls. Hence the response to your OP.

TBH, if you're slightly hurt at the insinuation you might be a troll, then I'd suggest you back out of the Politics forum fairly rapidly, before shit goes downhill.

I suspect the lib dems will do reasonably well, with or without your passion and frustration... why not call by the rest of the site, and get a feel for the particular culture of the MN board?

Cablepower · 04/05/2010 01:09

Realise now that I was over zealous in my long winded opening shot. Looking for reassurance before I jump ship. Today has helped clarify....but it is a bit scary. I think I will sign out from the political forum. If only to prove I'm not some political wierdo. Shame that you may frighten off some genuine (if wordy) Mums who are just feeling their way in politics. Felt quite engaged for a moment. How do we strike a balance between actively participating without being an activist? When I work it out,I might find the courage to come back.

Great site though. Vote for who you believe I say.

Lots of love
Cablepower

PS Did I mention I'm voting LIB DEM...couldn't resist! X

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NetworkGuy · 04/05/2010 10:29

Well, hope you will lurk, if only to read further comments (since a "thick skin" isn't perhaps the most appropriate or well-received option for me to suggest, perhaps some female-appropriate body armour would help fend off the slings and arrows of first combat!)

One of the few things which I've complained about to my PPC, and directly to the Lib Dems (not a member of any party) is that their 2500 pound limit is unfair on the major portion of bank staff outside the City who had nothing to do with the "gambling" of large funds and might depend on a cash bonus to put towards routine costs.

It's all very well saying that the excess can be in shares which would be redeemable in 5 years, but that does nothing to help someone working in the local Barclays who is saving for her wedding and wants to put away some cash for a deposit on a house, too. 5 years is a long time if you are earning "average" salary or less, compared with someone getting 100K+ each quarter for whom the shares option will be handy towards their second home or whatever.

(If it matters to anyone else, I told them they would alienate many of the bank staff, their friends and family, so lose their votes, and be seen not as "liberal" but the new "nasty party".)

Snobear4000 · 04/05/2010 11:21

Drat. I thought this thread was going to be racy.

2old4thislark · 04/05/2010 11:28

I only clicked on it cos it said fellow swingers...thought I was gonna read something saucy..........very disapointed. I shall go back to vaxing my rugs......

Cablepower · 04/05/2010 23:53

Network Guy - it does seem unfair that penalties from the banking disaster have hit innocent parties so hard.

I would like to have seen more done under the existing government to redistribute big salaries/bonuses....which are still being given to top execs. It appears that the country is so much in debt that whoever gets in has a great big deficit to claw back. I'd just like to see more pain at the top. Don't feel this will happen with the Torys.

Am more trusting of Vince Cable as he's consistently spoken sense.

I guess the LIB DEMS might be considered light-weight but I really want electoral reform so that it's not so difficult to vote out a poorly performimg government...in 5 years time not 13 years time. How can it be possible for Labour to maintain power on the lowest % votes of three parties? Seems madness.

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