MNers get your heads out of the sand. Economist says Tories deserve to win.

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Here . On the basis of policies, according to the economist, Tories deserve to win. I agree with them, and if after the last 13 years of wasting public money, poor financial sector regulation, sell off of assets at the lowest price, you people are still buying the Labour line then god help you !!

We have a time bomb of a legacy according to the economist, and I agree. God help us if we wake up on May 7th to a Labour government. The markets will go into meltdown. Greece, now Spain debt now have junk status...will we follow them? You decide.

Oh good whiffle coz I am like stoopid and cant make up me own mind

thanks for that then

I suspect that there is no-one in the available bunch of shysters that will do the trick.

I think MN should stage a palace (of Westminster) coup and form the next gov. I'm sure her Maj would prefer to see Justine Mumnset at Buckingham Palace to ask her to form the next government. I want Culture please. And I will banish Mr Murdoch and force the BBC to abandon reality TV. Hurray.

Fine by me Orm (yes yes me again, another name change LOL, rainbows etc)

Can I have the DWP please though? And amybe even SN education to boot

LadyBlaBlah - The Economist isn't exactly the shouting piece of Economists. It describes itself as a newspaper. I don't think it owuld particularly claim that economists get it right. But from within it's fairly clear position on economic and social liberalism, it is probably the most analytical, consistent and impartial periodical that I know. It is far more progressive than the tory papers.

Posie - I think the Economists position is that if the debt is not dealt with there will be more families in poverty. I think it is undeniable that there IS waste in public services - there has been no need for the people working in them to find more efficient ways of working with constantly increasing resources. That is going to change no matter whom is in charge.

Gaggghhh! Peachy! Will you stop it with the disguises pleace?

But I like this one!

The Economist- why don't I think thats a paper putting the needs of people like me first?

back later...off to baths and bedtime

SanctiMoanyArse - What kind of person are you then? I think the Economist would be wanting to try and balance everyones needs.

excuse me, I did read about the massage room not quite a farcical as an island for ducks!!

OOjma I think the economist would have me down as claimant

Actually, am a claimer married to a casualty of the recession desperately trying to keep afloat whilst managing 2 disabled kids whilst DH retrains / works PT and I study in teh evenings for my MA

BUt in real, financial terms I am at best a financial liability- just one not planning on staying that way

SanctiMoanyArse - then I think the Economist would be writing articles about the things that might hold you back.

Agree with OP

"excuse me, I did read about the massage room not quite a farcical as an island for ducks!! "

At least it shows he was being selfless and thinking of those poor little ducks out in the rain, not where can I get some 'babe' to rub her hands over me where the press can't get pictures.

I don't want to JUST seem like I'm trying to say how great The Economist is (though it is) - the point I'm making is that what it is NOT is a Tory or business mouthpiece and that it IS liberal, progressive and analytical. So for that reason, this is much more interesting a decision than The Sun or The Daily Mail coming out for the Tories.

I know it's not a tory mouthpiece
and ij fact am not voting labour either

Just feel very of the disposable burden ilk ATM tbh

And atlantis pmsl

frankly i think duck isalnds and massage rooms can head up y list of things to avoid buying in a recession

oh Peachy

I want you to know that many of those of us who are thinking of voting Tory are not doing so because we don't give a s* about families in poverty or because we would love to take benefits and opportunities away from families who are struggling, but because we fear that long-term Labour's way of doing things will be fatal and will result in more poverty for everyone.
There are going to be casualties whoever wins but I am hoping that a Tory victory will result in a shorter painful period than the deeper mess that I fear will result if Labour have another term.

(This is not about trying to convince you of a particular political viewpoint, btw, and certainly not trying to imply that you need educating about any of it, just trying to explain where people are coming from. It is not from a feeling that families like yours are a burden.)

Oh I know that (though it's nice to ehar it anyway LOL)

ANd in fct I am not voting ALbour either- well unless NC cocks up badly on his visit here tomorrow (not to the house, but nearby) LOL

glad you know it

rofl @ copter incident.
When I was doing my finals Bill Clinton was visiting the university and there were police copters everywhere making a racket in the middle of our exams. I would be even less forgiving now though if they woke up a sleeping child - much worse than disturbing an exam.

oojimaflip - I don't think it's very analytical, though (not this article, anyway).

well
in a perverse way i could almost hope the tories do get in

the Institute of fiscal studies reckons whoever gets in will have to make such deep cuts in public services, they will render themselves so unpopular as to put themselves out of power for a generation

all this talk of efficiency savings is just bollocks-it's like magic money or something

i still couldn't vote tory though...

well i'll raise you 4 sleeping children and a dh in the middle of exams pmsl

he didx pass though;business can be expanded a bit and in 2 years he will be a fully qualified specialist so maybe then we can juggle so I can use my rather large cache of quals too

Hey Vesela NC here tomorrow- he better be good!

I suppose the reason heads are in the sand is because there are too many people who don't want to face up to the reality that their castle is built upon sand. That their prosperity of the last decade has been down to a credit-fuelled debt-binge, that they are unlikely to be able to afford their mortage if interest rates were "normal".

It's the cold, harsh truth for far too many. Much better to stay at the metaphorical bar with your drink topped up.

I am saddened though by the fact that so many are unable to realise that their children, whom they claim to hold so dearly, will of course be the ones who ultimately will pay.

Has murdoch taken over the economist too?

Don't just read the article read the reader comments underneath it. They are far better and more balanced!

Agree with Seth.
Cards on the table i'm a tory ideologue...but open to voting for anyone that promotes similar values - small govt, lower taxes, less public expenditure etc. I'm also socially liberal and pleased with the current positioning of the party.

I'm compassionate and strongly believe that a civilised nation like ours should look after those that need it....I'm however fearful of where labour would take us judging by their history of wastage of our resources, I worry that we'll all be brought down to the lowest common denominator and those who can will leave. It is my opinion that your family Sancti, is exactly the sort of family that a tory govt should support. Hardworking, aspirational and in need of help now.
It makes me angry that a lot of times all families on benefits are lumped together as freeloaders, all immigrants/migrants as a drain on the nation etc and there are no distinctions. But I blame that on Labour of course