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Brow nThe Liar, part 23

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lincstash · 17/04/2010 14:34

MR BROWN: 'Let's be honest, net inward migration is falling, it's falling three years ago, two years ago and it's falling this year.'

REALITY: The most recent immigration figures relate to 2008. The figure for that year (163,000) represented a fall on the figure for 2007 (233,000). But, between 2006 and 2007, net migration had risen by 42,000.

So, there is only one consecutive year in which net migration has fallen. To claim two or even three consecutive falls is wrong. Mr Brown has previously cited incomplete data for 2009 to bolster his case - but was rebuked by the UK Statistics Authority.

BROWN: '[Net inward migration] is falling as a result of the action we are taking and will continue to take.'

REALITY: While net immigration fell by 70,000 between 2007 and 2008, of that 67,000 - or 95 per cent - was a result of a fall in net migration from the new Eastern European members of the EU. That had nothing to do with government policy as East Europeans have free movement.

BROWN: 'Border controls have been brought in and we are counting people out and in from the end of this year. It was a policy that the Conservatives scrapped before 1997.'

REALITY: Labour scrapped embarkation controls - counting people in and out of the country - for non-EU nations in
2008. The Tories stopped counting EU journeys in 1994, in line with Britain's obligations as an EU member.

BROWN: 'We've brought together the police and immigration officials and customs officials in one agency, we're doing that already.'

REALITY: Police are not part of Labour's 'border force', which is a merger of HMRC, immigration and UK visas staff. The idea of including police was resisted by ministers. It is Conservative policy to merge the police, customs and immigration-staff into a border police force.

BROWN: 'Police have to spend 80 per cent of their time now on the streets.'

REALITY: The Advertising Standards Agency ruled the Government's claim that 'You can now expect your neighbourhood police to spend at least 80 per cent of their time on the beat in your area' to be misleading. It includes time spent in meetings. Just 14 per cent of all police officers' time is spent on patrol.

BROWN: 'The important thing is that we are doing the right thing by our troops and that's why we've increased the spending on equipment dramatically over these last few years.'

REALITY: Figures from the Ministry of Defence show that the defence budget fell year-on-year in real terms on four occasions since 1997.

Bullshit, flannel, lies, spin, and incompetence, thats all we get from Brown. We would do better having Frank (Some Mothers Do 'ave 'em) Spencer as PM.

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bubbles4 · 17/04/2010 14:39

I cant remember the last conservative government having any integrity.

lincstash · 17/04/2010 15:46

but that was 14 years ago. David Cameron et al have never been in government. On the other hand, ive pointed out multiples lies and inaccuracies made by Brown, The guy just lies and lies and lies and lies. he cant help himself. Why would even consider voting for a liar?

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chandellina · 17/04/2010 20:45

re: immigration, can't believe the other candidates didn't point out it's to do with Brown helping to destroy the economy and making it less attractive to live and work here.

lincstash · 17/04/2010 22:45

Notice all the pro labour people are keeping quiet. The cant defend the indefensible, that Brown lied on TV, and through his teeth, multiple times. I just want one of them to post here and justify voting for a guy who is patently incapable of telling the truth, and why you would be so stupid as to believe his election promises when hes broken such promises time and time again.

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cornsilk · 17/04/2010 22:47

linctash -you are either very scarily obsessed with GB or a tory invader. Which is it?

noddyholder · 17/04/2010 22:50

I voted for him I like his hair will that do ya?

Alouiseg · 17/04/2010 22:53

I will vote for Linctash

jackstarbright · 17/04/2010 23:03

Lincstash the hardened pro-labour posters don't seem to respond to facts and figures and I doubt they are going to be influenced by them. But, I'll keep checking in to see if you manage to get a half way decent debate going.

atlantis · 17/04/2010 23:40

Couldn't agree more, total liar, it's all he's capable of.

But tell me this is part 23 did I miss the other 22 parts.?

muminlondon · 17/04/2010 23:59

Maybe the pro labour people were watching television after a busy day. Or can't be arsed to answer a man's rant.

Snorbs · 18/04/2010 09:21

"Politician bends the truth for party political gain". In other news, "Water discovered to be wet".

Show me a successful politician (of any party affiliation) and I'll show you a consummate and well-practised liar. It's just what they do. It's how they got to be where they are. Have you not realised that yet?

lincstash · 18/04/2010 09:27

No he didnt 'bend truth', he lied.

Whats more, Brown does it all the time, such as bending the truth about selling off our gold reserves at a knock down price, or going onlong with bending the truth about WMND and Iraq, or bending the truth about immigration.

Ordinary people bending the truth about putting the cheque in the post, or saying the cardigan gran knitted looks nice. Politician may not bend the truth about anything. The must be honest. They must not lie. Not for one second, not about anything.

SO in this instance, bending the truth isnt acceptable for one second. Brown is a liar, and a pathological liar at that. You cannot trust the man, and you cannot trust any of his election promises, if hes still in No 10 on May 8th you can g'tee they will be forgotten asap like so many of his other election promises.

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Snorbs · 18/04/2010 09:42

"Politican may not bend the truth about anything. The must be honest. They must not lie."

Aw bless, how sweet - you're an idealist! Do you still believe in the tooth fairy, too?

Meanwhile, back in the real world, all successful politicians lie. Whichever party gets in at the next election I guarantee you that within six months there will be clear evidence that they've lied about something.

Politicians are like alcoholics - you can't believe a word they say. Instead, pay attention to what they do.

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