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Burnham unopposed & likely to be PM by mid July

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Twiglets1 · 22/06/2026 12:36

Wes Streeting confirms on social media that he won’t stand as a candidate for the Labour leadership. He says that a contest where candidates spent the summer “exaggerating small differences” would not be good for the party or the country, and having spoken to Burnham, he is confident that that there is “a place” for the policies he has been advocating under a Burnham premiership.

The Guardian say this means it is now very, very likely that Burnham will be PM be mid July. It is conceivable that another candidate may come forward. But, apart from Streeting, no one else has publicly signalled an intention to stand, and with Burnham now a shoo-in, it is hard to imagine any other MP getting the support they would need to be a candidate.

heguardian.com/politics/live/2026/jun/22/keir-starmer-resignation-timeable-andy-burnham-labour-leadership-prime-minister-latest-news-updates?page=with%3Ablock-6a390a538f08adffab1e97fd#block-6a390a538f08adffab1e97fd

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Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 12:05

HappiestSleeping · 23/06/2026 11:40

I can see that view, however Josh Simons resigned in order to give Burnham a stab at becoming an MP purely in order to go for Prime Minister.

Of course there was no guarantee, but to avoid that question in the way that he did is disingenuous. If Starmer had been doing a stand up job, and the Labour ratings were good, I doubt if Simons would have resigned, and Burnham would happily have gone on being Mayor.

I realise too that there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance, however, honesty would have been quite a good approach. I think he avoided it as he didn't want to appear to be self serving, however that didn't work. Not for me anyway.

About the only thing he has above Starmer is more experience in politics, as evidenced by his ability to answer questions without actually answering the question. Starmer was a quick study though, and got the hang of that pretty quickly.

I think it is a shame that Starmer hasn't been able to leverage the successes they have had, then again, his ability to score an own goal will usually overshadow in the eyes of the critics.

I'm sure Josh Simons will be popping up in the Lords very soon as his reward.

Araminta1003 · 23/06/2026 12:08

It seems to me the Labour Party as a whole have Imposter Syndrome. Hence why Starmer seemed to be like a rabbit caught in headlights following the huge election win in 2024 and NO PLAN! And just blamed the Tories and as soon as he stopped with that, he blamed the Bogeyman Nigel Farage (and whatever other bogeymen are coming out of the woods, like Lowe etc) like little earwigs

But none of them have a PLAN. We the public deserve a bloody plan immediately. Starmer was just getting going somehow, and got unseated, For what?! Please make it make sense. It is the 10 year anniversary of Brexit and my wedding anniversary and I am rageing
We were promised change from the Tories, Labour have delivered zero so far. They have no plan at all. It is all round shocking. We all deserve so much more, no matter who we vote for!

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 12:10

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 12:05

I'm sure Josh Simons will be popping up in the Lords very soon as his reward.

Edited

I very much doubt it. He’ll be back in the Commons at some point. Meanwhile I foresee a job in. Downing Street in his immediate future.

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 12:12

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 12:10

I very much doubt it. He’ll be back in the Commons at some point. Meanwhile I foresee a job in. Downing Street in his immediate future.

Jobs for the boys in whatever form. They are all the same.

Araminta1003 · 23/06/2026 12:15

@SheilaFentiman - the issue is the EU negotiations next month have had to be postponed because of Burnham (which could have been a motivator for growth) and the defence plan due to Healey resigning.
The two very most urgent issues facing the country defence and growth, surely Burnham must have an immediate plan on those at least and what he is doing and it has to be delivered quicker than Starmer would have done. Otherwise why the heck is he there? To fight the Bogeyman’s Bloody Shadow? What a mess!

Hummingbirdhawkmoth · 23/06/2026 12:22

SadiraOfTyr · 23/06/2026 11:10

That was a councillor, not an MSP I thought?

I don't recognise your description of the AMS system used in Scotland (and Wales). Most candidates are single district candidates so you know exactly who you are voting for. It is only the "additional members" who are added to make things proportional on a party basis - but even then you know who they are going to be before you vote. Candidates are obviously selected by parties, just the same as anywhere else.

Sorry you are right I’ve got muddled 🙈. I was thinking of the regional party list where you vote for a party but who you get depends on how many from the list get a seat and also depends on the order they’re listed. My apologies!!!

Bromptotoo · 23/06/2026 12:25

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 12:05

I'm sure Josh Simons will be popping up in the Lords very soon as his reward.

Edited

Hmm...

Josh Simons was the guy who commissioned an intrusive report into two Times reporters who were investigating an organisation he was involved with.

I'm not convinced that there was not a scandal waiting to envelope him and he jumped before it did.

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 12:28

Bromptotoo · 23/06/2026 12:25

Hmm...

Josh Simons was the guy who commissioned an intrusive report into two Times reporters who were investigating an organisation he was involved with.

I'm not convinced that there was not a scandal waiting to envelope him and he jumped before it did.

Good point - maybe he's more suited to US ambassador.

Hummingbirdhawkmoth · 23/06/2026 12:30

Araminta1003 · 23/06/2026 12:04

Andy Burnham gave a smarmy speech when he won Makerfield (the makers of the swamp more likely at this point). In that speech, he talked about CHANGE - so clearly he must have some very clear plan for CHANGE and why has it not been published yet in detail including on Defence, Economic Growth.
He literally deliberately unseated Starmer because Starmer’s change was apparently too slow.
So surely against that, he must be publishing his big Master Plan for Change Immediately?!

Agree and change from what? The whole last manifesto and campaign was headlined by change change change. If he plans to change the change manifesto then the electorate has more a right to want a GE and have the chance to vote. Or does he mean that he will do all he can to deliver the change that Labour promised at the last GE. Either way, he’s going to have to go a bit of detail at some point as right now it’s just (good admittedly) political speeches and sound bites

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 12:31

Araminta1003 · 23/06/2026 12:15

@SheilaFentiman - the issue is the EU negotiations next month have had to be postponed because of Burnham (which could have been a motivator for growth) and the defence plan due to Healey resigning.
The two very most urgent issues facing the country defence and growth, surely Burnham must have an immediate plan on those at least and what he is doing and it has to be delivered quicker than Starmer would have done. Otherwise why the heck is he there? To fight the Bogeyman’s Bloody Shadow? What a mess!

Burnham said he will cut welfare to fund defense. If he delivers that quickly he could well attract voters back from Reform.

Araminta1003 · 23/06/2026 12:36

Burnham needs to get going very quickly.
Look at the US, at some point the US Government is going to turn on the tech bros (like Putin did on the oligarchs) and the massive AI bubble is going to burst. Everybody fears this, they just do not when exactly and what the fall out will look like, whether worse than the 2008 financial crash. Remember the US securitisation heating up just before the massive crash. We really need the financial planning and defence planning and pronto. We need investment in our own safer tech companies with inbuilt regulation.
If we are lucky it will be a slow mo burst, if not, it will be awful.

SheilaFentiman · 23/06/2026 12:40

Quickly, but not insanely quickly (see Liz Truss, who was so obsessed with making big changes in the remaining parliamentary term, she shot herself - and the country - in the knees)

Araminta1003 · 23/06/2026 12:53

@SheilaFentiman - OK I see what you are saying. You think he might have some clear plans but they would possibly shock the bond markets/public and you believe people are working behind the scenes at it, very hard. And you think a Rachel Reeves style Treasury drip for weeks will be how it is delivered.

The problem is we are in very unsafe times. Not having a steady PM is really of grave concern to some of us and we want to see Defence upped, and not dismissed as some Tory obsession. Because we genuinely do believe there is a real problem.

SheilaFentiman · 23/06/2026 12:57

@Araminta1003 you are “replying” to things I haven’t said. Again. Please stop doing that.

I have no idea if plans Burnham has would shock the bond market. My point was that a new leader moving very quickly to implement big change carries its own risks.

Araminta1003 · 23/06/2026 13:01

“I have no idea if plans Burnham has would shock the bond market. My point was that a new leader moving very quickly to implement big change carries its own risks.”

So @SheilaFentiman - why change leader at all then when there will be another election really quite soon and changes have to be delivered before then! I mean why put us all through more political uncertainty, yet again, in one of the most dangerous times in recent living history. It is truly baffling.

HappiestSleeping · 23/06/2026 13:04

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 12:05

I'm sure Josh Simons will be popping up in the Lords very soon as his reward.

Edited

I'm sure he'll turn down the offer on the basis of not being self serving 🤣

Araminta1003 · 23/06/2026 13:06

The next general election has to be called by August 2029. That is just 3 years. Starmer had less than two and apparently was not fast enough.

I just do not understand what this party is playing at all. Either have a very firm plan and get going immediately. Or what was the point of further political turmoil and uncertainty for us all.

LovingTelescopes · 23/06/2026 13:10

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 12:31

Burnham said he will cut welfare to fund defense. If he delivers that quickly he could well attract voters back from Reform.

But what will be his position today at 13.10 and what will it be today at 17.15?

You know it changes hourly and depending on who he is talking to-the anti democratic sly twerp.

King of the North my arse-Andy Capp more like,

SheilaFentiman · 23/06/2026 13:19

@Araminta1003 as I said above, I hold no candle for Burnham.

I suspect he will be a bit better, but whether "good enough" to make up for the disruption - I'm not sure. And I would have preferred more stability of leader from the Tories too.

SheilaFentiman · 23/06/2026 13:20

LovingTelescopes · 23/06/2026 13:10

But what will be his position today at 13.10 and what will it be today at 17.15?

You know it changes hourly and depending on who he is talking to-the anti democratic sly twerp.

King of the North my arse-Andy Capp more like,

Edited

Why is he an anti-democratic sly twerp?

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 13:23

LovingTelescopes · 23/06/2026 13:10

But what will be his position today at 13.10 and what will it be today at 17.15?

You know it changes hourly and depending on who he is talking to-the anti democratic sly twerp.

King of the North my arse-Andy Capp more like,

Edited

His position hasn’t changed much in 16 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/aug/23/andy-burnham-labour-metropolitan-elite

Andy Burnham launches blitz on 'metropolitan elite'

Labour leadership candidate calls for paid work experience, and free travel for students

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/aug/23/andy-burnham-labour-metropolitan-elite

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 13:32

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 13:23

Pleased to hear that he doesn't change his mind. The quicker he get the welfare bill down and shifts the spend into defense the better. Hopefully he will bring Heely back into the role.

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 13:37

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 13:23

As you seem to have more insight into the Saviour's plans than the Labour MPs is he still standing by the Graduate Tax?

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 13:37

Do you mean Healey? I’d prefer him as Chancellor and Carns in Defence personally.

Lemonsqueezer12 · 23/06/2026 13:42

BIossomtoes · 23/06/2026 13:37

Do you mean Healey? I’d prefer him as Chancellor and Carns in Defence personally.

I actually agree. We would rapidly see welfare come down if he was in the treasury finding the cash for defence.