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Burnham unopposed & likely to be PM by mid July

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Twiglets1 · 22/06/2026 12:36

Wes Streeting confirms on social media that he won’t stand as a candidate for the Labour leadership. He says that a contest where candidates spent the summer “exaggerating small differences” would not be good for the party or the country, and having spoken to Burnham, he is confident that that there is “a place” for the policies he has been advocating under a Burnham premiership.

The Guardian say this means it is now very, very likely that Burnham will be PM be mid July. It is conceivable that another candidate may come forward. But, apart from Streeting, no one else has publicly signalled an intention to stand, and with Burnham now a shoo-in, it is hard to imagine any other MP getting the support they would need to be a candidate.

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EasternStandard · 25/06/2026 14:02

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 13:52

Evidently, its OK if a white male says it….

They get to say a successful black woman is irrelevant because Labour. Crickets

Idk how she put up with it. Tg he’s gone.

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:03

EasternStandard · 25/06/2026 14:02

They get to say a successful black woman is irrelevant because Labour. Crickets

Idk how she put up with it. Tg he’s gone.

Edited

Yes, funny that…

Araminta1003 · 25/06/2026 14:05

Actually, I don’t give a damn what Bridget Philippson’s mother did or did not do nor where she Bridget went to school. All I want to know is that she is excellent at her job and delivers for State Education. She has not, she has failed State Education.
It is a pathetic state of affairs that none of these people have achieved anything in real life job wise relevant to the sector they are meant to deliver for, to the point that all they have to talk about is what type of school their grandmother’s uncle’s dog went to in the 1920s.

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:05

Bromptotoo · 25/06/2026 14:01

£9,600 in 1990?

That reflects both a large discount for long temr renting and an area where house prices were rock bottom.

All rather ironic given the ‘spiteful class warrior’s’ dislike of Thatcher.

Bromptotoo · 25/06/2026 14:09

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:05

All rather ironic given the ‘spiteful class warrior’s’ dislike of Thatcher.

Edited

You do know you could buy council houses before 1979?

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:12

Bromptotoo · 25/06/2026 14:09

You do know you could buy council houses before 1979?

Thatcher’s RTB was introduced in 1980.

You know that, right?

Bromptotoo · 25/06/2026 14:16

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:12

Thatcher’s RTB was introduced in 1980.

You know that, right?

Yes but that wasn't the start was it.

Tenants could but before as well.

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:18

Bromptotoo · 25/06/2026 14:16

Yes but that wasn't the start was it.

Tenants could but before as well.

If you reread my post, BP’s mother sold her house in 1990, under Thatcher’s RTB scheme.

You can see both the irony, and the hypocrisy, I hope?

EasternStandard · 25/06/2026 14:19

Bromptotoo · 25/06/2026 14:16

Yes but that wasn't the start was it.

Tenants could but before as well.

It was 1990

Redpaisley · 25/06/2026 14:35

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 23/06/2026 06:54

I am really concerned about a coronation for Andy Burnham without much scrutiny of what he is actually going to do as PM. He is likeable, yes, but that's not going to cut it when it comes to actually governing.

You mean likable to the public? Why do people like him?

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:40

Redpaisley · 25/06/2026 14:35

You mean likable to the public? Why do people like him?

It’s all relative.

If some people like him, may I suggest it’s because they have fallen for his northern schtick?

Or, more simply - he’s not Starmer.

Lemonsqueezer12 · 25/06/2026 14:43

Redpaisley · 25/06/2026 14:35

You mean likable to the public? Why do people like him?

Probably the same reason many politians gets more popular when they leave parliament. He hasn't had to make any difficult decisions for a while. Being a mayor is much more about pet projects than balancing the books - the core work is done my the elected council. The minute he stops the triple lock or takes the £10bn out of benefits to fund defence he will become less popular with many people.

Araminta1003 · 25/06/2026 14:47

I am not concerned about Burnham going in anymore. If he doesn’t it is just another royal waste of time and uncertainty for longer, which drags us all down and increases national debt! The IMF have already warned us, he cannot spend more. He has to find money for Defence and spend very wisely there. The only CHANGE that is possible is to reshuffle Starmer’s shitty cabinet dead weight and put in strong characters who can actually lead and make the tough and very smart decisions to effect the real change the country needs.

The NEU has concluded: “Educators have lost confidence in Bridget Phillipson, and Labour members have lost confidence in the government's direction. The party as a whole needs a fundamental change of direction, starting with education. That means new leadership at the top of the party and new leadership in the Department for Education.”

Same for Reeves, but he has to be careful who he appoints as if seen as too left it will be even more of a bond crisis than last time.

And then he needs to let those new cabinet ministers lead effectively. There are some good strong characters in the Labour Party who can do it, Burnham literally just needs to not feel threatened by them and pick the right ones. That is the Change we need.

Araminta1003 · 25/06/2026 14:52

“The minute he stops the triple lock or takes the £10bn out of benefits to fund defence he will become less popular with many people.”

He has to do some of this. There is not really a choice. The extra child benefit should also go to schools where it actually makes a difference to children as it is handled by professionals.
They soften it with pension credit availability and other stuff.
If you put extra child benefit into schools and hire more staff, you also get the economy growing at the same time.

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:54

Araminta1003 · 25/06/2026 14:47

I am not concerned about Burnham going in anymore. If he doesn’t it is just another royal waste of time and uncertainty for longer, which drags us all down and increases national debt! The IMF have already warned us, he cannot spend more. He has to find money for Defence and spend very wisely there. The only CHANGE that is possible is to reshuffle Starmer’s shitty cabinet dead weight and put in strong characters who can actually lead and make the tough and very smart decisions to effect the real change the country needs.

The NEU has concluded: “Educators have lost confidence in Bridget Phillipson, and Labour members have lost confidence in the government's direction. The party as a whole needs a fundamental change of direction, starting with education. That means new leadership at the top of the party and new leadership in the Department for Education.”

Same for Reeves, but he has to be careful who he appoints as if seen as too left it will be even more of a bond crisis than last time.

And then he needs to let those new cabinet ministers lead effectively. There are some good strong characters in the Labour Party who can do it, Burnham literally just needs to not feel threatened by them and pick the right ones. That is the Change we need.

I’m afraid that I see things differently - irrespective of who is in the cabinet, this Labour government is run by the back benches and the unions. There is therefore no hope of meaningful reform.

Burnham is a caretaker/hostage, as you prefer, and his downfall is merely a function of time - as ‘two-year Starmer’s’ was.

Bromptotoo · 25/06/2026 14:56

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:54

I’m afraid that I see things differently - irrespective of who is in the cabinet, this Labour government is run by the back benches and the unions. There is therefore no hope of meaningful reform.

Burnham is a caretaker/hostage, as you prefer, and his downfall is merely a function of time - as ‘two-year Starmer’s’ was.

Edited

The backbench problem last year was that they declined to cut PIP.

That was a symptom of Starmer's failure to 'roll the ground' with them.

Redpaisley · 25/06/2026 15:01

Namechangey23 · 23/06/2026 07:44

I actually don't think Starmer was so bad. Under hks leadership, he followed process, waiting times in the NHS reduced, the economy started to recover, the national minimum wage went up ha inf been stagnant for years, he resisted joining in trumps lunacy war, free breakfast club for all kids etc. He listened when people complained about the winter fuel allowance and reduced it's severity. He had a lot of good quality a and sometimes you just need to follow process to get a country back on track. But his downfall was he wasn't a strong character liked by the media, he was 'dutiful instead of 'dynamic'. The best dirt they could dig up on him was accepting a free Taylor swift ticket which I think he paid back! Hardly compares to the last administration level of scandal! And I do believe he probably didn't know about Mandlesons Epstein links or they were played down, but I can see why he was chosen as he had a good relationship with Trump. I note no one is going after the King, our head of state, for resignation/abdication for his brother's links to Epstein and yet the palace must have known about that as he was friends with him after he was charged. I don't know much about Andy Burnham but I really hope he isn't a power hungry style over substance sort of person. Out country needs stability right now, not a change of leadership trying to get to grips with the job yet again. To be fair to Starmer, I suspect he'd had enough of the infighting whilst he was trying to get the job done. I quite liked Angela Rayner too as she seemed good at what she did and was a people northerner, but she came a cropper too and was punished for trying to do the right thing. Let's hope Burnham isn't going to be farage lite.

Very well said.

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 15:01

Bromptotoo · 25/06/2026 14:56

The backbench problem last year was that they declined to cut PIP.

That was a symptom of Starmer's failure to 'roll the ground' with them.

Again, context (ain’t it wonderful?)

Starmer failed to get 5 bn of a future increase stopped, from a total welfare bill of, what, 330 bn?

‘Rolling the ground’ or otherwise - it tells you just how stymied Burnham will be.

As others have said - the bond market will straighten him out, however much Burnham thinks otherwise.

EasternStandard · 25/06/2026 15:03

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 14:54

I’m afraid that I see things differently - irrespective of who is in the cabinet, this Labour government is run by the back benches and the unions. There is therefore no hope of meaningful reform.

Burnham is a caretaker/hostage, as you prefer, and his downfall is merely a function of time - as ‘two-year Starmer’s’ was.

Edited

I’m not sure yet between these two interesting posts but I did note Labour MPs talked about Starmer’s authoritarian control on their own party, which is entirely unsurprising, and that Burnham wouldn’t be like that.

Even talk of (much) lower use of the three line whip. If they expect more freedom on votes it could get interesting.

Araminta1003 · 25/06/2026 15:05

Burnham isn’t thick. He can’t piss off the bond markets or he will be Mr Cabbage especially if he was just in by crowning.
In some ways, it is good he just comes in because he can then simply control the rest of them and whip them. That is what the country needs at this point. No use in spending all our cash on interest and not being safe at all. He has to regain investor and business confidence immediately or he will be toast by Christmas.

EasternStandard · 25/06/2026 15:06

Araminta1003 · 25/06/2026 15:05

Burnham isn’t thick. He can’t piss off the bond markets or he will be Mr Cabbage especially if he was just in by crowning.
In some ways, it is good he just comes in because he can then simply control the rest of them and whip them. That is what the country needs at this point. No use in spending all our cash on interest and not being safe at all. He has to regain investor and business confidence immediately or he will be toast by Christmas.

He’s definitely reined in the bond market what bond market chat with the ‘fiscal rules’ reaffirmation.

He needs to get the right chancellor too.

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 15:18

EasternStandard · 25/06/2026 15:03

I’m not sure yet between these two interesting posts but I did note Labour MPs talked about Starmer’s authoritarian control on their own party, which is entirely unsurprising, and that Burnham wouldn’t be like that.

Even talk of (much) lower use of the three line whip. If they expect more freedom on votes it could get interesting.

I agree with you - Starmer is known to be a populist weathervane - a people pleaser.

There is an excellent piece in the FT, written by a northern journo who has followed Burnham for years.

I will try to share.

The decade that made Andy Burnham
What 10 years covering the Manchester mayor’s many reinventions taught me about the man who wants to lead Britain.

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 15:33

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 15:18

I agree with you - Starmer is known to be a populist weathervane - a people pleaser.

There is an excellent piece in the FT, written by a northern journo who has followed Burnham for years.

I will try to share.

The decade that made Andy Burnham
What 10 years covering the Manchester mayor’s many reinventions taught me about the man who wants to lead Britain.

Edited

Read ‘Burnham’, not Starmer.

Araminta1003 · 25/06/2026 15:44

Well if Andy Burnham has to channel his inner Simon Cowell too so be it.

Bullandbear · 25/06/2026 15:53

Kemi Badenoch has mocked Labour after a party figure claimed Andy Burnham would be their “first woman prime minister”.

Earlier today, a senior Labour figure, speaking anonymously, told The Spectator that Mr Burnham would come into No 10 surrounded by “female advisers and backers”.

They added: “The reason Labour have always craved, but also been cautious about, a female leader is because, in a Labour Government, she could have an unashamedly female agenda, focused on health, education, family finances, and issues like safer streets...

“Along comes Andy, surrounded by female advisers and backers, but more importantly, genuinely passionate about all those traditionally female-oriented issues, and much less so with the bombs and bullets.”

In response, Mrs Badenoch said: “Labour might have changed leader, but they still don’t know what a woman is.”

😂

Over to JKR…

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