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Would you vote for Andy Burnham in the by-election?

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Sid2024 · 15/05/2026 08:35

People of Makerfield - would you vote for Andy Burnham? Anyone else - thoughts?

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Almina · 16/05/2026 08:06

I probably would. I'm in a neighbouring constituency. I'm not, like, thrilled by the whole thing but yeah I probably would. He's done some good work in Manchester. TBH any politician that actually gets anything done in the North is so rare. Normally they just announce things and then announce they are cancelling them.

So you know, I'll take the buses and the building. That's something. It's more than nothing which is what everyone else does. And I liked how he fought for our businesses during Covid when all the other politicians were merrily destroying them.

It's not either of the options, really, presented by the media. I'm not dancing in the streets for Andy Burnham and I'm not furious either. I think he's basically ok and does stuff. If we'd had that national care service set up 15 years ago then the local councils would not be so utterly fucked now. But they are fucked, so that's not the same as thinking he can fix that. Or fix anything really. But he might electrify the line between Leeds and Manchester, and that would genuinely improve my life. I can't think of anyone else that is offering anything that would, so...

EnduringEthel · 16/05/2026 08:23

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 15/05/2026 08:59

I think it’s breathtakingly arrogant, and that if I was a constituent, I wouldn’t vote for Burnham. And I’d be pissed off that the local authorities had to pick up the tab for a parliamentary and mayoral by election because of his political ambition. If he wanted to be an MP he shouldn’t have stood for reelection in 2024 and tried to get a seat in the general election. Reform will throw everything at the seat.

I agree completely with this.

OurFlagMeansAfternoonTea · 16/05/2026 08:27

Didn't he sit on any attempts to investigate the Pakistani rape gangs in Manchester? Maggie Oliver talks about that.

He also thinks the Supreme Court ruling on biological sex is "confusing". He's no friend to women.

Almina · 16/05/2026 08:39

In a way I think it's quite good that it's a tough seat. He would definitely have won Gorton (I used to live there). But the towns are a lot harder - way more Reform. So, you know, if he can't move the needle there, then it's a clear signal that he won't move the country.

It's obvious this current version of Labour is incapable of doing the sort of practical things that would actually change the lives of voters. I have found them imperceptible, personally. We joke round here that the government doesn't exist. For most people up here there's simply no evidence of the state. We don't have a hospital - I've not seen a doctor for years. No NHS dentist. We don't have a police station. We don't have a college. The trains sort of run, sometimes, but mainly not. The bins are collected sometimes, but mostly not. The roads are full of holes, literally our town was blocked off, the main road fell in, for a quarter of a year. I'm not talking little potholes here, though we have those too. I can see six out of this window here. We had a burst water main running into the town square last year for weeks. Like, a river running past my house!

It's beyond neglect or shabbiness. It's nonfunctional. We have been abandoned by the government, and in this respect there's no visible difference between this one or the last. The only experience most people round here have of state action in the last 20 years is having their business destroyed by lockdowns during Covid. It's why people round here feel going Reform is worth the risk. I'm not a Reform voter but I can see why people would get there.

When I say this, my friends start yelling about how Reform will hurt the most vulnerable, and I agree, they probably will. But the fact is this is not going to stop anything because the most vulnerable don't vote. So it just seems obvious that's not a politically effective argument.

Imdunfer · 16/05/2026 08:50

Almina · 16/05/2026 08:06

I probably would. I'm in a neighbouring constituency. I'm not, like, thrilled by the whole thing but yeah I probably would. He's done some good work in Manchester. TBH any politician that actually gets anything done in the North is so rare. Normally they just announce things and then announce they are cancelling them.

So you know, I'll take the buses and the building. That's something. It's more than nothing which is what everyone else does. And I liked how he fought for our businesses during Covid when all the other politicians were merrily destroying them.

It's not either of the options, really, presented by the media. I'm not dancing in the streets for Andy Burnham and I'm not furious either. I think he's basically ok and does stuff. If we'd had that national care service set up 15 years ago then the local councils would not be so utterly fucked now. But they are fucked, so that's not the same as thinking he can fix that. Or fix anything really. But he might electrify the line between Leeds and Manchester, and that would genuinely improve my life. I can't think of anyone else that is offering anything that would, so...

Normally they just announce things and then announce they are cancelling them.

Like he announced the clean air zone, spent millions on mapping the area, lots of publicity, seeing up the systems and installing all the signage, then cancelled it?

Imdunfer · 16/05/2026 08:52

Imdunfer · 16/05/2026 08:50

Normally they just announce things and then announce they are cancelling them.

Like he announced the clean air zone, spent millions on mapping the area, lots of publicity, seeing up the systems and installing all the signage, then cancelled it?

Edited

I've just looked it up

£104,000,000

Teado · 16/05/2026 09:07

I’d vote Labour to keep out Reform, with very little relish. If Maggie stood as an independent and was doing well in the polls, I’d think about her, but she’s ruled herself out in any capacity.

The Scots and the Welsh are lucky to have the options they have.

Almina · 16/05/2026 09:12

@Imdunfer yep, like that. I'm not saying he's amazing, or done everything, I'm saying he's done some things, which is more than no things. That's the extent of my claim.

Imdunfer · 16/05/2026 09:31

Almina · 16/05/2026 09:12

@Imdunfer yep, like that. I'm not saying he's amazing, or done everything, I'm saying he's done some things, which is more than no things. That's the extent of my claim.

I actually like him a lot.

I do think Manchester has done well under him.

I've been worried by what I've been reading about just how far left his natural leanings are, though that could even be his own rivals briefing against him, the way politics is these days!

Boomer55 · 16/05/2026 09:55

He’d be the best of potential candidates for PM I think. Other than him, Streeting.

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