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Labour MP stands aside as Andy Burnham eyes return to Parliament

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Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 17:32

A scandal-hit Labour MP will give up his seat to make way for Andy Burnham, in the Manchester mayor’s first step to challenging Sir Keir Starmer for No 10.

Josh Simons, a former minister, said on Thursday that he was “standing aside so that Andy Burnham can return to his home, fight to re-enter Parliament, and if elected, drive the change our country is crying out for”.

It will trigger a by-election in the Greater Manchester constituency of Makerfield, which has been held by the Labour Party since it was created in 1983.

Mr Simons is a former minister who was forced to resign over his involvement in a smear campaign against journalists carried out while he ran the think tank Labour Together.

“It is my unwavering belief that nothing short of urgent, radical, courageous reform will make a difference,” he said. “That must start with a change in leadership.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/14/keir-starmer-live-rayner-wes-streeting-leadership-contest/

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Twiglets1 · 22/05/2026 06:50

AInightingale · 21/05/2026 22:51

It seems to be more to do with some batshit SM posts he's written, the usual antisemitic nonsense. The Greens are an absolute disaster under ZP, they seem to be a magnet for the very worst people.

Another Green candidate who doesn’t have the brain cells not to write antisemitic nonsense on social media. Why can’t they find a decent candidate to stand in this constituency?

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EasternStandard · 22/05/2026 07:19

Twiglets1 · 21/05/2026 08:43

Is it? Seeing the odds, I am wondering what is the point?

I agree with @Nuthatch26just run without much campaigning. It’s more likely Restore will impact Reform’s vote anyway.

Not sure the Greens will get much support when they run.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 22/05/2026 07:32

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Nuthatch26 · 22/05/2026 09:17

Twiglets1 · 22/05/2026 06:50

Another Green candidate who doesn’t have the brain cells not to write antisemitic nonsense on social media. Why can’t they find a decent candidate to stand in this constituency?

They obviously don't attract 'decent' people anymore. Just anti semitic nutjobs.

Nuthatch26 · 22/05/2026 09:19

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I'm sure they would have preferred to keep the MP they elected less than two years ago, but Burnham's ego must be stroked.

Smeuse · 22/05/2026 11:44

The Green party has withdrawn their candidate, Reform defends their candidate's social media posts.

MulberryBrandy · 22/05/2026 11:56

Don't worry everyone there is always hope:

Hope, Alan "Howlin" Laud The Official Monster Raving Loony Party X

Twiglets1 · 22/05/2026 12:25

Smeuse · 22/05/2026 11:44

The Green party has withdrawn their candidate, Reform defends their candidate's social media posts.

It’s not a competition & unlike Reform, the Green Party is supposed to be inclusive to everyone.

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Smeuse · 22/05/2026 12:31

Twiglets1 · 22/05/2026 12:25

It’s not a competition & unlike Reform, the Green Party is supposed to be inclusive to everyone.

Is that what Reform is campaigning on, being an exclusive party?

Reform should withdraw their candidate if they have any decency left.

Twiglets1 · 22/05/2026 12:34

Smeuse · 22/05/2026 12:31

Is that what Reform is campaigning on, being an exclusive party?

Reform should withdraw their candidate if they have any decency left.

No of course not but we all know they are not arguing in favour of more inclusivity in society are they?

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Smeuse · 22/05/2026 12:37

Twiglets1 · 22/05/2026 12:34

No of course not but we all know they are not arguing in favour of more inclusivity in society are they?

I condemn both parties for the candidates they are standing. One has withdrawn theirs, the other defends theirs.

Both parties have massive problems with their vetting

Twiglets1 · 22/05/2026 12:39

Smeuse · 22/05/2026 12:37

I condemn both parties for the candidates they are standing. One has withdrawn theirs, the other defends theirs.

Both parties have massive problems with their vetting

We can agree both parties have massive problems with vetting.

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 23/05/2026 09:14

The Greens have taken off where Corbyn left off. They are the Corbynists who were either expelled or left the Labour Party.

Twiglets1 · 23/05/2026 09:19

YourAmplePlumPoster · 23/05/2026 09:14

The Greens have taken off where Corbyn left off. They are the Corbynists who were either expelled or left the Labour Party.

Yes they’ve found a new home in the Green Party.

It’s just a shame the Green Party is allowing themselves to be used like this. Though I’m aware some people question who is using who - since the Greens get a lot more attention & membership has grown hugely since they stopped being primarily about the environment.

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Bigfatsquirrel · 23/05/2026 09:26

Andy Burnham must have whiplash the number of U turns he has done this week. No increase in the top rate of income tax, no EU membership, stuck to fiscal rules, backing the changes to indefinite leave to remain. Basically going against everything he said he stood for a few weeks ago. Tell me how he offers something different to Starmer? And now I read he wants to bring in another tax - land value tax - in addition to other property taxes like council tax, mansion tax, stamp duty etc. Has he actually thought anything through? If he wins the Labour leadership and becomes PM surely there has to be a General Election - we are so far from the 2024 Labour manifesto already. Didn’t see mention of £70 billion tax rises in it or 17% youth unemployment as a consequence of their taxes on business coming in that document - they weren’t discussed! They weren’t kidding when they called it “Change” !

BIossomtoes · 23/05/2026 09:30

Disgraceful, isn’t it? They’re shameless.

Twiglets1 · 23/05/2026 09:38

Bigfatsquirrel · 23/05/2026 09:26

Andy Burnham must have whiplash the number of U turns he has done this week. No increase in the top rate of income tax, no EU membership, stuck to fiscal rules, backing the changes to indefinite leave to remain. Basically going against everything he said he stood for a few weeks ago. Tell me how he offers something different to Starmer? And now I read he wants to bring in another tax - land value tax - in addition to other property taxes like council tax, mansion tax, stamp duty etc. Has he actually thought anything through? If he wins the Labour leadership and becomes PM surely there has to be a General Election - we are so far from the 2024 Labour manifesto already. Didn’t see mention of £70 billion tax rises in it or 17% youth unemployment as a consequence of their taxes on business coming in that document - they weren’t discussed! They weren’t kidding when they called it “Change” !

The very thing Starmer is most often accused of - doing U turns.

I don’t have a problem with occasional U turns myself as surely it’s better if politicians do change their mind on issues when it becomes apparent their opinions are unpopular.

But still - this just shows whoever gets elected Labour leader will probably resort to as many U turns as Starmer 🤷🏼‍♀️

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 23/05/2026 09:43

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 23/05/2026 16:40

Bigfatsquirrel · 23/05/2026 09:26

Andy Burnham must have whiplash the number of U turns he has done this week. No increase in the top rate of income tax, no EU membership, stuck to fiscal rules, backing the changes to indefinite leave to remain. Basically going against everything he said he stood for a few weeks ago. Tell me how he offers something different to Starmer? And now I read he wants to bring in another tax - land value tax - in addition to other property taxes like council tax, mansion tax, stamp duty etc. Has he actually thought anything through? If he wins the Labour leadership and becomes PM surely there has to be a General Election - we are so far from the 2024 Labour manifesto already. Didn’t see mention of £70 billion tax rises in it or 17% youth unemployment as a consequence of their taxes on business coming in that document - they weren’t discussed! They weren’t kidding when they called it “Change” !

Politicians lie in case you hadn't noticed. Re entry into the EU was not in their manifesto.

AInightingale · 24/05/2026 17:52

Ew, that Robert Kenyon guy sounds more unpleasant the more we find out about him. Fair to say Reform attract horrible misogynists, extremists and whackjobs as well as the Greens.

Twiglets1 · 24/05/2026 18:06

AInightingale · 24/05/2026 17:52

Ew, that Robert Kenyon guy sounds more unpleasant the more we find out about him. Fair to say Reform attract horrible misogynists, extremists and whackjobs as well as the Greens.

Yeah they both seem to.

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Smeuse · 24/05/2026 18:44

Twiglets1 · 24/05/2026 18:06

Yeah they both seem to.

The Greens withdrew their candidate, Reform arr standing by theirs, even defending his posts.

Have you seen Kenyon's posts on abortion?

AInightingale · 24/05/2026 18:56

I have seen them yes, they are repellant. Along with his 'ever heard of contraception' quip which disgusts me coming from anyone. It seems we are increasingly stuck between bunch of far-right-wingers funded or at least egged on by religious fundamentalists, or lefty nutcases in parties that have been infiltrated by the adherents of another religion with mediaeval views of sex, in some bizarre alliance with the gender cultists hellbent on dismantling women's rights. It's a wretched state of affairs.

Twiglets1 · 24/05/2026 19:25

Smeuse · 24/05/2026 18:44

The Greens withdrew their candidate, Reform arr standing by theirs, even defending his posts.

Have you seen Kenyon's posts on abortion?

You’ve already mentioned this about Reform standing by their candidate and I don’t know why you’re tagging me about his views on abortion.

I have no interest in Kenyon or Reform.

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