Page 11 | What I would like to ask Reform supporters what are the specific Reform policies they support?

Pelsall116 · 09/05/2026 18:32

CurlewKate · 08/05/2026 12:23

Just that really. I am a Labour voter, and I know what Labour policies I support. I think I know what Conservative and Lib Dem policies their supporters like. I don't know about Reform.

What exactly ARE Labour's policies? They seem to U-turn every 2 minutes. (and no, I didn't vote Reform)

Myli1 · 09/05/2026 18:34

hairbearbunches · 09/05/2026 18:18

@Myli1 oh god, not a member of the ‘utter nonsense’ brigade, How very superior of you. I think the supermarkets and water companies have a better handle on population numbers than government do, based on consumption. They’ve been disputing official numbers for nearly 2 decades. 8.6 million EU migrants applied for settled status after Brexit. We’re likely approaching 80million and even that might be conservative.

Nope. 69.93 million according to ONS data.

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 18:50

EEexpat · 09/05/2026 15:15

@WildGarden

My point was that I am interested and would love to know if people want to explain

People don’t have to explain how or why they voted. This is just another anti Brexit/Farage thread in disguise.

Watch the BBC question time special last night which was meant to discuss the local elections, but almost immediately focussed on the gift of £5 million to Nigel Farage.

I KNOW they don't have to. But if they don't then they can't complain that nobody understands why they vote as they do.

hairbearbunches · 09/05/2026 18:51

Myli1 · 09/05/2026 18:34

Nope. 69.93 million according to ONS data.

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From the census data? Whatevs.

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 18:57

DreamyScroller · 09/05/2026 17:20

"Given how many people who voted Reform today you would think we'd be inundated with posters saying why they voted."

Can you think of any reason why someone who did vote Reform might be uncomfortable discussing it?

People are sick of being told they are racist and stupid. It's fighting a losing battle with those who couldn't care less about their concerns.

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Standing up for what you believe in isn't always comfortable and you would think people would be easily able to prove in debate that they are neither racist or stupid.

Donsyb · 09/05/2026 19:03

Itchthescratch · 08/05/2026 14:52

I would respond to your points that:

A) the majority of the British population has been against high levels of immigration since polling on the issue started. Whether they mean refugees or economic migrants, ultimately studies have consistently shown that certain groups are disproportionately impacted by the disadvantages of immigration whilst other groups have disproportionately from large scale immigration. We supposedly live in a democracy. Why is it wrong for people to want a party that seem more dedicated towards bringing immigration down? Will their policies be completely workable? Probably not, but neither have Labour or Tory policies been on this issue.

B) Labour had an astonishing lack of coherent policies in the last election. Other than putting VAT on school fees, everything else was unclear and has often been seriously diluted. They have of course managed to implement ideological policies they said they wouldn't though like lifting the two child benefit cap. Implementing change is difficult, look at Labour and the Assisted Dying Bill. It won't be easy for Reform either but people obviously prefer their direction of travel.

C) Labour's policies have never stacked up financially either. Why doesn't this bother you? Do you think raising taxes on businesses has been good for the economy or anyone? All Labour know how to do is tax and spend and people have had enough. The irony that you accuse Reform of so much that Labour have already proven they are guilty of too.

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So what are Reforms actually policies then? You haven’t actually answered the question.

Littlesarou · 09/05/2026 19:04

Itchthescratch · 08/05/2026 14:52

I would respond to your points that:

A) the majority of the British population has been against high levels of immigration since polling on the issue started. Whether they mean refugees or economic migrants, ultimately studies have consistently shown that certain groups are disproportionately impacted by the disadvantages of immigration whilst other groups have disproportionately from large scale immigration. We supposedly live in a democracy. Why is it wrong for people to want a party that seem more dedicated towards bringing immigration down? Will their policies be completely workable? Probably not, but neither have Labour or Tory policies been on this issue.

B) Labour had an astonishing lack of coherent policies in the last election. Other than putting VAT on school fees, everything else was unclear and has often been seriously diluted. They have of course managed to implement ideological policies they said they wouldn't though like lifting the two child benefit cap. Implementing change is difficult, look at Labour and the Assisted Dying Bill. It won't be easy for Reform either but people obviously prefer their direction of travel.

C) Labour's policies have never stacked up financially either. Why doesn't this bother you? Do you think raising taxes on businesses has been good for the economy or anyone? All Labour know how to do is tax and spend and people have had enough. The irony that you accuse Reform of so much that Labour have already proven they are guilty of too.

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what the original poster is asking for is a coherent response to what Reforms policies are. Your message is just a deflection of whats wrong with labour and rather than stating what reform stand for or aim to deliver outside of popular rhetoric

Maray1967 · 09/05/2026 19:05

SpidersAreShitheads · 08/05/2026 14:38

Every Reform voter I’ve ever spoken to a) talks about immigration (when usually they actually mean refugees) and b) talks about what a good bloke Nigel is and how he speaks for the people.

I watched a fair bit of the coverage last night and the Reform representative was aggressive and kept wanging on about the country being taken over etc. They know it’s what their voters want to hear.

Reform’s policies don’t stack up fiscally but people seem utterly uninterested. It’s like fucking Brexit all over again.

As far as I can tell, Reform voters believe that if we just sort out the “immigrants” and have a man of the people in charge, everything will be rosy.

The lack of coherent policies or the wherewithal to implement them seems to be surplus to requirements.

I think that’s actually why I feel so despondent. I’m not a Tory, I’m left-wing. I don’t feel despondent when the Conservatives win. A bit frustrated or irritated yes. Worried about what it might mean for vulnerable people, yes. But although I might disagree with the Tories, they do actually know how to run a government.

I don’t think Reform have got a clue. They’re like rowdy teenagers who have nicked the keys to a car - no clue what they’re going to do, but you can guarantee it will be a mess.

And not a single Reform voter I’ve ever met has demonstrated otherwise.

Spot on. Apparently one of my cousins who works in social care has had to explain to her Reform voting siblings that Reform people talk utter nonsense when they talk about what migrants ‘get’. She has carefully explained what people are/are not allowed to have/do. Not sure whether it’s made an impact on them, but her mother has certainly listened.

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:10

ChunkyMonkey36 · 09/05/2026 16:46

I’m letting in lots of unvetted men?

I don’t think I am sir, I work in education recruitment, I’m not the Home Office. Think you must be confused.

I don’t know what “our” values are, because I certainly don’t think we share any, based on your word salad so far.

What a load of waffle 😂

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LMAO well if your voting for a party that supports doing little about immigration YOU my friend are part of the problem.

flytyer27 · 09/05/2026 19:16

All frontline NHS and social care staff to pay zero basic rate tax for 3 years.
Introduce new visa rules for international students that bar dependents.
Deport foreign nationals immediately after their prison sentence ends.
Bank of England to Stop Paying Interest to Commercial Banks on QE Reserves.
Cut Residential Stamp Duty to 0% below £750k.
Lift the Income Tax Start Point to £20,000 Per Year.
Abolish Inheritance Tax (IHT) for all Estates Under £2m.
Scrap environmental levies.
Scrap Net Zero and Related Subsidies.
Start fast-track licences of North Sea gas and oil. Grant shale gas licences on test sites for 2 years.
Fast-track clean nuclear energy with new Small Modular Reactors, built in Britain.
Recruitment to increase UK per capita police numbers to 300 per 100k population.
Ban Transgender Ideology in Primary and Secondary Schools.
Personal Independence Payment and Work Capability Assessment should be face to face.
Increase basic pay across our armed forces to boost recruitment and retention.
Public toilets and changing areas must provide single sex facilities.
Legislate to ban ULEZ Clean Air Zones and Low Traffic Neighbourhoods.
Every foreign fishing vessel must pay for a licence to gain access to the UK’s 200 nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ).
Ban Dutch vessels from electric pulse fishing in Britain’s 200 mile EEZ.
Amend the Mineworkers Pension Scheme arrangements so that all the
scheme surpluses accrue to the Mineworkers.
Surveillance of the public must be limited and those monitoring us held to account.

I could go on, but these are just some of the Reform policies that I agree with.

Motherbear44 · 09/05/2026 19:20

MabelRoyds · 08/05/2026 15:00

I’m amazed that so many people voted Reform. Immigration is obviously the top issue for lots of people. And this is a fairly recent thing too, surely. Ten years ago nobody was talking about immigration , were they?

Ten or more years ago the talk was all about Brexit. That was really about immigration.

PistachioTiramisu · 09/05/2026 19:21

flytyer27 · 09/05/2026 19:16

All frontline NHS and social care staff to pay zero basic rate tax for 3 years.
Introduce new visa rules for international students that bar dependents.
Deport foreign nationals immediately after their prison sentence ends.
Bank of England to Stop Paying Interest to Commercial Banks on QE Reserves.
Cut Residential Stamp Duty to 0% below £750k.
Lift the Income Tax Start Point to £20,000 Per Year.
Abolish Inheritance Tax (IHT) for all Estates Under £2m.
Scrap environmental levies.
Scrap Net Zero and Related Subsidies.
Start fast-track licences of North Sea gas and oil. Grant shale gas licences on test sites for 2 years.
Fast-track clean nuclear energy with new Small Modular Reactors, built in Britain.
Recruitment to increase UK per capita police numbers to 300 per 100k population.
Ban Transgender Ideology in Primary and Secondary Schools.
Personal Independence Payment and Work Capability Assessment should be face to face.
Increase basic pay across our armed forces to boost recruitment and retention.
Public toilets and changing areas must provide single sex facilities.
Legislate to ban ULEZ Clean Air Zones and Low Traffic Neighbourhoods.
Every foreign fishing vessel must pay for a licence to gain access to the UK’s 200 nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ).
Ban Dutch vessels from electric pulse fishing in Britain’s 200 mile EEZ.
Amend the Mineworkers Pension Scheme arrangements so that all the
scheme surpluses accrue to the Mineworkers.
Surveillance of the public must be limited and those monitoring us held to account.

I could go on, but these are just some of the Reform policies that I agree with.

All sounds good to me and I am a true blue Conservative and like Kemi but I do like Reform's policies.

ChunkyMonkey36 · 09/05/2026 19:25

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:10

LMAO well if your voting for a party that supports doing little about immigration YOU my friend are part of the problem.

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There’s a difference between doing little and “using the death penalty” if they’re not deported.

Which has now been deleted, but is what you said.

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:27

RedTagAlan · 09/05/2026 16:46

Quote : " If they won’t take them back then death penalty or we make a little power station on remote island where illegals have to cycle to generate electricity."

Can you tell us more about these pedal power stations. Has it been costed ?

I have not seen this before, but I can do some ciggie packet sums.

Human sustained aerobic output is between 75 and 100W. And people need to be fed to sustain this. So 100 W hours would need a minimum of 86K cal food per hour at 100 % efficiency, But the Human body is only about 20-25% efficient at converting food energy into muscle effort. so with peddling, lets be generous and say 10% of the food energy goes into the pedals. And bikes are about 98% efficient fair enough, but then generators, transformers, transmission losses......

Get the gist ?

Solar however, 100W/m2 from the sun. So solar will be cheaper then pedal islands.

Just quick sums sorry, and far from complete. But be great to see a costed proposal if you have one.

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Mr Mathematician who thinks he is very clever and superior to us all and all your pearl clutching mates.

Obviously, I haven’t done a cost plan because I just work down the Arches fixing motors.

If you remove the incentives, then they stop coming here. It is really very simple. No incentives, no free accommodation, healthcare, dentist, spending money, no soft touch Britain. The idea was very tongue in cheek and you fell you it hook line and sinker LMAO.

They need getting rid off and the incentives need removing. If they have no incentives or are just punished for coming here then they ain’t going to be paying THOUSANDS of pounds to people smuggling gangs and passing through MANY MANY safe countries to get here. That why I don’t buy their refugee crap. They even have the legal aid lawyers who YOU and everyone else is paying for to help them submit fraudulent claims to get Asylum. For example, pretending to be gay or an apostate. As you know or may not know being gay or an apostate in an Islamic country is a sin and is punishable over there. This is what your are importing or want to import. They don’t share any values with the great British non-pearl clutching public. FACT.

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:31

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DreamyScroller · 09/05/2026 19:36

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 18:57

Standing up for what you believe in isn't always comfortable and you would think people would be easily able to prove in debate that they are neither racist or stupid.

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"...you would think people would be easily able to prove in debate that they are neither racist or stupid."

Not against people who have already decided that you are those things by definition. It is a strange phenomenon where emotional/defensive thought patterns seem to override the capacity to reason or listen objectively to someone else's point of view.

ChunkyMonkey36 · 09/05/2026 19:37

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No, no.

You said, that if countries don’t accept their migrants back, use the death penalty. As in, just kill them if they’re not going back.

You did also say something about using them to create electricity.

Stuff like this is the reason people call Reform/Restore/Regenerate/Redo/Renovate supporters thick meatheads.

You’re giving them a bad rep.

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:40

ChunkyMonkey36 · 09/05/2026 19:37

No, no.

You said, that if countries don’t accept their migrants back, use the death penalty. As in, just kill them if they’re not going back.

You did also say something about using them to create electricity.

Stuff like this is the reason people call Reform/Restore/Regenerate/Redo/Renovate supporters thick meatheads.

You’re giving them a bad rep.

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What I said is what I posted above. Stop shifting goal posts like a typical Labour cabinet minister. YOU are part of the problem and cannot see common sense. Suck it up and OWN IT. Yeah that’s right suck it really good with some HARD FACTs.

ChunkyMonkey36 · 09/05/2026 19:41

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:40

What I said is what I posted above. Stop shifting goal posts like a typical Labour cabinet minister. YOU are part of the problem and cannot see common sense. Suck it up and OWN IT. Yeah that’s right suck it really good with some HARD FACTs.

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I don’t want to suck it, but thank you for your kind offer. I’d rather do…. basically anything else.

Opinions aren’t facts.

glammymommy · 09/05/2026 19:42

Itchthescratch · 08/05/2026 14:52

I would respond to your points that:

A) the majority of the British population has been against high levels of immigration since polling on the issue started. Whether they mean refugees or economic migrants, ultimately studies have consistently shown that certain groups are disproportionately impacted by the disadvantages of immigration whilst other groups have disproportionately from large scale immigration. We supposedly live in a democracy. Why is it wrong for people to want a party that seem more dedicated towards bringing immigration down? Will their policies be completely workable? Probably not, but neither have Labour or Tory policies been on this issue.

B) Labour had an astonishing lack of coherent policies in the last election. Other than putting VAT on school fees, everything else was unclear and has often been seriously diluted. They have of course managed to implement ideological policies they said they wouldn't though like lifting the two child benefit cap. Implementing change is difficult, look at Labour and the Assisted Dying Bill. It won't be easy for Reform either but people obviously prefer their direction of travel.

C) Labour's policies have never stacked up financially either. Why doesn't this bother you? Do you think raising taxes on businesses has been good for the economy or anyone? All Labour know how to do is tax and spend and people have had enough. The irony that you accuse Reform of so much that Labour have already proven they are guilty of too.

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But this was a local election. The only policies I've seen reform talking about are national issues. I live in a pretty left wing area so we didnt have any reform candidates door knocking but I did see some in pedestrian areas. Again all they could talk about was national issues which the local council can't do anything about. We want to know about bins, and parks, and libraries etc. They had nothing about those

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:43

ChunkyMonkey36 · 09/05/2026 19:41

I don’t want to suck it, but thank you for your kind offer. I’d rather do…. basically anything else.

Opinions aren’t facts.

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Anyway, you guys wanted a reform voter opinion. The key issue is immigration. You guys can keep being butt hurt about it but Reform are WINNING. FACT.

1dayatatime · 09/05/2026 19:43

Myli1 · 09/05/2026 17:59

Utter nonsense. We haven’t even added 20 million to the UK population since 1950.

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UK population in 1950 was 50.1 million
UK population in 2026 was 69.93 million.
So an increase of 19.83 million since 1950, so yes you are correct that it is less than 20 million but not by much. UK population is estimated to be 70.9 million by mid 2027.

ChunkyMonkey36 · 09/05/2026 19:45

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:43

Anyway, you guys wanted a reform voter opinion. The key issue is immigration. You guys can keep being butt hurt about it but Reform are WINNING. FACT.

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Yes, thank you for sharing your insightful opinions.

They’re truly appreciated, completely sensible opinions.

They have really provided some valuable insight.

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:46

ChunkyMonkey36 · 09/05/2026 19:45

Yes, thank you for sharing your insightful opinions.

They’re truly appreciated, completely sensible opinions.

They have really provided some valuable insight.

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Who did you vote for ?

ChunkyMonkey36 · 09/05/2026 19:48

PhilMitchell82 · 09/05/2026 19:46

Who did you vote for ?

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There wasn’t a local election in my area.

Which millionaire man of the people did you go for?