Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Politics

The BBC have altered another speech

50 replies

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 07/03/2026 07:36

BBC Persia translated the US defence secretary's speech from English to their Iranian audience.

He said the Iranian regime is experiencing death.

They said he said the Iranian people is experiencing death.

It was only when viewers called it out that they deleted the translation and apologised, saying it was a mistake.

Why does this keep happening?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/06/bbc-altered-hegseth-speech-on-iran-war/

OP posts:
RedTagAlan · 07/03/2026 12:49

I wonder how this will translate.

Pete Hegseth Mocks ‘Iranians That Think They’re Gonna Live’ (mediaite.com)

Maybe it's Just as well Iranians don't have access to the news to see what the US Secretary of War is saying.

Of course, the Iranian Regime will report this on their State TV, hopefully most people will dismiss it as propaganda.

The BBC have altered another speech
Zonder · 07/03/2026 13:01

RedTagAlan · 07/03/2026 12:21

I am not a linguist in any way, and I can agree with that.

A bit like if it was China being attacked, and he had said " we will kill all communists". Because technically, the CPC considers everyone in China to be a communist.

Exactly this

Zonder · 07/03/2026 13:04

iceteababy · 07/03/2026 12:40

Ok, back this up by presenting the cases reported in left wing papers then.

They're not saying this kind of thing as far as I know. Perhaps because they know how translation works.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 07/03/2026 13:24

Zonder · 07/03/2026 11:35

And do they never make mistakes? I suspect they're not telling you the truth if they have really said that!

Yes of course, that is why they have revisers as mentioned.

The revisers are not meant to let errors slip through.

My dad spent 25+ years in the UN translation service and this would be a serious matter. You wouldn't let this kind of error out.

EasternStandard · 07/03/2026 13:39

RedTagAlan · 07/03/2026 12:37

Is this not a bit moot anyway, given that BBC is blocked in Iran, and their internet is cut ?

Many people, especially Trump, seem to forget that people in Iran are not reading what Trump or anyone is saying. The country has State controlled media.

Someone must be reading it. Probably best to get it right wrt regime v people.

MissConductUS · 07/03/2026 13:53

EasternStandard · 07/03/2026 13:39

Someone must be reading it. Probably best to get it right wrt regime v people.

It's a big distinction. The BBC apologists say there's a fuzzy line between the regime and the people, so it's easy to misinterpret. The regime is shooting the people, not the other way around. That's a pretty bright line.

Zonder · 07/03/2026 14:12

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 07/03/2026 13:24

Yes of course, that is why they have revisers as mentioned.

The revisers are not meant to let errors slip through.

My dad spent 25+ years in the UN translation service and this would be a serious matter. You wouldn't let this kind of error out.

That's possible with translation but not with interpretation generally. This was interpretation wasn't it?

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 07/03/2026 19:48

Zonder, I thought the error was repeated in a printed report. Might be wrong.

If it was interpretation, then yes that is different as I said earlier.

Frustrated96 · 07/03/2026 20:00

Zonder · 07/03/2026 08:39

The article literally says they made a mistake while translating. Having done a lot of translation myself I can see it would be easy to say people instead of regime.

Unless there's more to it this is a mountain out of a molehill.

BBC have a history of purposely misreporting on events in the Middle East and have a definite bias. Lots of evidence, especially BBC Arabic and BBC Persian.

Frustrated96 · 07/03/2026 20:01

Skybunnee · 07/03/2026 08:45

Well greens are pro Palestinian - not sure what that is going to mean -many more i
migrants? I worry for British jews

They're pro-islamist & hate Jews.

Zonder · 07/03/2026 20:11

Frustrated96 · 07/03/2026 20:00

BBC have a history of purposely misreporting on events in the Middle East and have a definite bias. Lots of evidence, especially BBC Arabic and BBC Persian.

Possibly. I'm not sure this counts as evidence though.

sashh · 08/03/2026 08:36

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 07/03/2026 08:57

It's a massive mistake (mixing up the government with the people) that anyone translating during a war should not be making. Why do these mistakes always seem to go in the same direction?

Translation and interpretation are not straight forward. There are not always word for word correlation, well in fact rarely.

It can even be difficult understanding a dialect.

Do you remember when Shannon Matthews disappeared? Her mother made an appeal for her in which she said, "Your dad's even out looking for you".

A lot of people interpreted that as "Even your dad's looking for you" but using 'even' in the way Karen Matthews did is a Yorkshire turn of phrase that doesn't mean that.

And that is not using dialect words, just a different way of using a normal English word.

Frustrated96 · 08/03/2026 09:41

Zonder · 07/03/2026 20:11

Possibly. I'm not sure this counts as evidence though.

There is evidence going back years including the report last year by an independent advisor.

Zonder · 08/03/2026 11:32

Frustrated96 · 08/03/2026 09:41

There is evidence going back years including the report last year by an independent advisor.

I said I'm not sure this particular example is evidence. I'm just repeating that. This thread is about one example and it's a very weak one, whipping up people who don't understand translation/interpretation.

PurpleNightingale · 08/03/2026 11:55

It is hard to get the exacting nuances into translations, and it's not helped by words having multiple ways in which they are used. For instance regime can be a government or a system of working or a group of people who are organised together- for instance me and my friends could get together and have a workout regime. I imagine the alternate words in Persian are similarly used in nuanced ways. Maybe there was a better way of translating this but its not maths, translations are rarely exact, regime in English will not always equal X. People have been disagreeing over the right translations for the bible for centuries and each translation would change the meaning slightly.

Suggesting this is some big conspiracy by the BBC is worrying. The world is flooded with AI fake images, very heavily skewed and cherry picked stats on GB news that hide real changes behind % increases which can obscure how low real numbers might be, sensationalist unsubstantiated gossip from the tabloids and accusations from politicians that are designed just to confuse and worry you. I have travelled the world, and spent a lot of time abroad, and I am proud of our BBC. There is a reason many people worldwide choose to watch our BBC channel over their own local sources. They are not perfect but they are not corrupt and beholden to corporations for their money. It's a very valuable thing which we will miss immensely if it's gone. The worst of the politicians hate them because they hold them to account and want to see it taken down.

Zonder · 08/03/2026 11:55

Well said @PurpleNightingale

sashh · 08/03/2026 13:32

Just another example, I worked with a Brazilian man for a while, he called all advertisements 'propaganda'.

For most of us who speak English propaganda is not the same as an advertisement but in Portuguese it is the same word.

RedTagAlan · 08/03/2026 17:16

I don't mean this post as a whataboutism, I am posting for information, given how ppl posting here are interested in how media reports news.

https://polinews.org/fox-friends-appears-to-swap-in-old-footage-after-trumps-dignified-transfer-sparks-backlash/

It's a terrible link for me to provide yes, but I happen to be in a country with web restrictions, and Fox have admitted and apologized. A quick google will confirm.

Not a whataboutism. Just a recent example of how genuine mistakes can happen.

Fox & Friends Appears To Swap In Old Footage After Trump’s Dignified Transfer Sparks Backlash

Covering up the obvious

https://polinews.org/fox-friends-appears-to-swap-in-old-footage-after-trumps-dignified-transfer-sparks-backlash/

38thparallel · 08/03/2026 18:18

For most of us who speak English propaganda is not the same as an advertisement but in Portuguese it is the same word.

Does the context not make it clear?

Zonder · 08/03/2026 19:49

sashh · 08/03/2026 13:32

Just another example, I worked with a Brazilian man for a while, he called all advertisements 'propaganda'.

For most of us who speak English propaganda is not the same as an advertisement but in Portuguese it is the same word.

Fascinating. I reckon the Portuguese have it right!

Context wouldn't always make it clear, I imagine - that's why in other languages we have two distinct words.

Zonder · 08/03/2026 19:51

RedTagAlan · 08/03/2026 17:16

I don't mean this post as a whataboutism, I am posting for information, given how ppl posting here are interested in how media reports news.

https://polinews.org/fox-friends-appears-to-swap-in-old-footage-after-trumps-dignified-transfer-sparks-backlash/

It's a terrible link for me to provide yes, but I happen to be in a country with web restrictions, and Fox have admitted and apologized. A quick google will confirm.

Not a whataboutism. Just a recent example of how genuine mistakes can happen.

Wow!

RedTagAlan · 09/03/2026 02:07

Zonder · 08/03/2026 19:51

Wow!

Confirmed on Sky news feed:

"Fox News apologises for airing old video of Trump during dignified transfer ceremony
Fox News has apologised for airing old footage of Donald Trump, while covering his attendance of a dignified transfer ceremony for US soldiers killed in the Iran war.
The president has been criticised after wearing a baseball cap during Saturday's ceremony, which is considered one of the most solemn duties of a commander-in-chief.
However, video shown on the TV channel had suggested Trump was not wearing a hat at the time.
Critics have claimed the network was trying to make him look better by using footage from a previous ceremony.

Fox News said archival footage of the US president at an earlier ceremony was inadvertently used on two Sunday morning broadcasts.
A spokeswoman said the correct footage was aired at other times, including on Saturday.
"We regret the error and apologise for the incorrect footage," Fox said in a statement.
In an on-air correction on Sunday, Fox News anchor Griff Jenkins said "we extend our respect and condolences" to the families of the service members killed.
But some critics were not happy with the apology.
"If any other network did this it would be a huge scandal, Fox would lead the chorus of criticisms and faux outrage, and people would lose their jobs," said Mehdi Hasan, founder of the online site Zeteo."

Zonder · 09/03/2026 07:27

Funny that doesn't seem to be of concern to everyone @RedTagAlan

RedTagAlan · 09/03/2026 07:38

Zonder · 09/03/2026 07:27

Funny that doesn't seem to be of concern to everyone @RedTagAlan

Yeah. Odd that. TBF. I did say the Fox stuff was not a whataboutism.

I mean it's an easy enough mistake. To splice in footage from over 5 years ago. They must have filed the old stuff with the wrong date ?

Zonder · 09/03/2026 07:55

Must have been that!

New posts on this thread. Refresh page