Morgan McSweeney resigned. What now for Starmer?

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Just that really. The scapegoat fallen on his sword?

Not enough to save starmer. The vultures are circling.

He’s trying to draw some poison away from Starmer by claiming responsibility that he didn’t actually have.

New Epstein revelation-
Lord Waheed Ali his donor (remember the free clothes & use of his flat scandal early on)…he’s mentioned in the Epstein files- said to be hanging out with Mandelson.

I think there’s going to be drinks and drabs of further information coming out and that’s what will finally be the end of Starmer.

I can read that- what exactly does it say?

@curious79It’s odd isn’t it. MM suggest a candidate and the person who appoints the candidate, accepts the recommendation but then doesn’t facilitate appropriate investigation and blames the person who made the suggestion! Of course the divided Labour Party will still struggle with Starmer therefore ensuring they behave like the Tories they despise!

The media makes these SPADs known to us and set them up to be fall guys.

Ahhh… the poor guy from Macroom. Now Cork’s link to No. 10 is almost severed!

Yep! Starmer himself will manoeuvre all he can to cling on to power, but his days are numbered I reckon.

Or responsibility he should not have had.

His rush to appoint new " chiefs of staff" really makes me think he should be gone. It was him who was elected to run the country and make decisions. Not a bunch of non elected and never elected advisors.

Leader of a political party, with 100s of full time paid politicians in the House, 100's of peers to advise, professional everything surrounding him, a century of Party history, millions of written articles on policy and ideology, and yet the leader needs a gaggle of never elected advisors to "help" him.

Starmer needs to go.

i am disappointed that Starmer has been useless but I worry what follows. I can’t bear AR and think she will be hugely damaging and destabilising for the country and economy- she hates anyone who has done well in life, I like WS personally but the party will never get anything done

14 years of Tories screwing everything and Starmer can't have his elected years to try anything.

@MrsTerryPratchettWhat! He was elected on a “change” agenda. That means the Labour Party was telling us they would bring stability. It’s not been remotely stable. Far too much division, back stabbing and personal politics. It’s opened up factions and it’s a disaster. Starmer cannot manage this so takes advice from SPADs. That’s SO familiar! There’s no change at all.

I hope he doesn’t resign, it looks bad for the UK that our PMs change every two years, we lack credibility and stability.

He made the mistake of saying that Labour were going to be whiter than white. it turns out they are just as sleazy as all other politicians.

How many PMs have there been in the last five to ten years that have resigned or been kicked out other than in an election?

Seems to me that as soon as they become PM the knives are out immediately. But some knives are justified.

I think when Starmer goes is the issue not if.

As things currently stand two MPs appear to have made their aspiration to be leader clear.

Neither are currently in a strong position right now.

Wes Streeting was very close to Mandelson, so He (Streeting) may want a little more water to have passed under the bridge before he goes for the Leadership

Angela Raynor is also not currently in a strong position. HMRC are still investigating the tax issues around the selling of her flat, so she may feel her time has not yet come.

I suppose there are two other alternatives. A Manchester MP stands down and the NEC is leaned on v heavily to allow Andy Burnham to stand.

or Starmer says "a plague on both your houses, I'm off".

Starmer should have been forced to resign the minute he made the appointment. The man was proven to be in contact with and hanging out with Epstein after he was a convicted sex offender. For all the nonsense about the biased “right wing press” if it had been a Tory PM appointing a known associate of one of the most prolific sex offenders of all time, the press would have had him gone in days. And the most horrifying part of this is the Labour supporters trying to defend it. “Ah but he didn’t know how friendly he was” as if the degree of ‘friendship’ with a convicted sex offender matters.

British Politics is becoming more and more like America every day and it’s shocking. Endless excuses made by a partisan population for the transgressions of ‘their side’

We should be demanding Stamer’s resignation and we should fight like hell to ensure that Raynor (a liar & cheat) should get nowhere near taking over. And we should keep demanding the removal of any politician caught lying, cheating or involved with degenerate people until ALL parties get the message that the public won’t tolerate them as our ‘leaders’ anymore.

Starmers Coms Director has quit. It's like rats from a sinking ship.

Labour will try to keep KS till May, so they can blame him for the inevitable pasting they are going to get in the local elections. Although I very much doubt he will last that long.

The financial markets are already looking nervous...

@crascenda They all make catastrophic mistakes and/or anger their backbenchers so there’s a coup. Neither are palatable. Neither are good for the uk.

A further issue is the divisions in back benchers. Many are poor and many are in a faction - Brexit, left, right, anti immigration etc. There’s no political cohesion. Both main parties are a “broad church” but that’s fast becoming another description for a rabble. It’s all about sticking to your ideological position and not recognising what good governance looks like. The bigger the majority, the bigger the factions.