Mumsnet backing Reform?

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I can't read the article properly but it's in the Independent that Mumsnet is backing Reform, is this true?

It’s not a question of it being “enough” - it’s more that I want the inheritance that we (and generations before us) worked so hard for, to pass onto our family and not the government.

@HamToasties Yes from 2027-it’s the inheritance tax on my father in law’s pension that will affect us when he passes away (not that I’m hoping for this-we are very close). This is a change under Labour and his pension will be subject to 40% inheritance tax. So when we sell his house that he has stayed in for 60 years, all of this (around £500k) will have to be handed over as tax. I defy anyone to not feel sick about this.

It's at least understandable why someone with this level of wealth and greed might choose to vote for Reform. There is at least a logic to it.

It is much less understandable as to why vast swathes of ordinary people seem to think that Reform is going to do anything for them. Turkeys voting for Christmas. It's really difficult to watch.

But I suppose Brexit has already proved to us that people can quite easily be manipulated to vote for acts of self harm, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised really.

Inheritance tax will likely be due on my father's estate when he dies, unless a lot gets eaten up in care costs. I'm not sure why that should make me feel sick?

That's democracy surely ?

The Tories had 14 years to prove their economic model worked, to create enough millionaires that the Labour manifesto would not get most votes. They failed.

And if we add the cuts the tories made, effectively having the country run on the never never, there has to come a point where the lack of investment is reversed.

Think of it this way. Any extra tax paid can go towards our underfunded defense. Defense that will allow future generations to keep the bulk of their inheritance.

Is it not fair that those with most to lose should pay a bit more towards the defense of what they have already ? Those 2 aircraft carriers are not cheap. And we can barely use them because of Tory cuts.

Oh yes, we are in a similar position with DF private pension. It’s frustrating.

It is as understandable in the same way as it understandable how someone with children who has never worked but claims unemployment benefits will vote for Labour, who will increase the money going into their pocket.

The unemployed person and the “wealthy greedy” person you describe both have the same entitlement to vote, but they will each vote for the party that benefits them the most. This is always the way it has been in politics. Why would one be selfish and not the other purely because one has millions and the other doesn’t? It’s a very strange way of thinking but such is the way of the left.

Not at all, I agree with you. There are people who vote for their own self interest on either side of the political spectrum. It isn't how I approach politics personally, but I can at least understand the logic behind those choices.

My point was rather that I can't really understand the vast swathes of ordinary people who are planning to vote for Reform despite the fact that they will be shafted by them. Are they making an active choice so that the ultra-rich can benefit at their expense?

I think the current Labour government have disappointed many and the failure of both Labour and Conservative parties to address the issues that people are seeing around them (eg immigration, crime) for years on end has led to swathes looking for an alternative. I can’t pretend I have ever voted for Labour (I haven’t) but under the previous Labour government in 1997 - 2010, I enjoyed very low interest rates on my mortgage repayments! So although I didn’t align with their policies, I wasn’t overy bothered about them being in power. I do think when Labour voters are switching to Reform, Labour has a huge problem. Not because I believe for a minute that Reform are “far right” but because I accept their views and policies are more aligned with the right than the left / centre left.

Of course Labour will have a problem if their voters switch to Reform.

But the voters themselves will find that they have an even bigger problem if Reform actually wins power.

That is pure speculation, though. We have no idea as Reform have never been in power before. This is refreshing to many who are fed up with the usual two-horse political race. Their policies clearly align with a lot of people, hence the support for them (outside MN anyway!) has surged. I don’t know if they’re the answer but I have lost faith in the Conservatives and Restore are a bit too knee jerk for me, so Reform is where I am.

Well, if you're a wealthy, white man, then you'll probably do well under them.

If not, then I wish the very best of luck to you.

The idea that Reform even want to help anyone other then themselves is a joke.

Turkeys voting for Christmas is very much how I would describe Labour voters. Workers are the ones left shouldering a worse economic environment and higher tax obligations to pay for party prerogatives.

i disagree with a significant portion of reform, but I would vote for them if it gets Labour out. I suspect many many working people feel the same way- certainly the self employed trades, farmers and hospitality industry workers that are the backbone of my local community do.

Follow the Money
Green Party to win 4/9
Reform " 3/1
Labour " 9/2
The others 200/1 or more.

I’m hoping the aliens come and take me away if reform get in.