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Do Rebublicans change their views on Trump?

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somanychristmaslights · 15/12/2025 18:17

I wondered if any Americans can say whether Republicans actually change their mind about Trump? He’s said so many awful things actually. Do people support him no matter what? I just don’t understand the cult following he seems to have. He can do whatever and he’ll still get support?

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SheinIsShite · 15/12/2025 18:21

I have lots of friends who are from a traditionally conservative US state. They are Republican voters. They do not like Trump.

It is a mistake to try to divide people into a binary pro-Trump and anti-Trump, this is exactly what he and people like Farage want to create. In the real world, there are as many opinions and standpoints as there are American voters.

somanychristmaslights · 15/12/2025 18:24

SheinIsShite · 15/12/2025 18:21

I have lots of friends who are from a traditionally conservative US state. They are Republican voters. They do not like Trump.

It is a mistake to try to divide people into a binary pro-Trump and anti-Trump, this is exactly what he and people like Farage want to create. In the real world, there are as many opinions and standpoints as there are American voters.

I agree. I’ve seen so many things on social media where people don’t like someone because of their political standing. It’s sad.

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MsAmerica · 10/01/2026 22:35

somanychristmaslights · 15/12/2025 18:17

I wondered if any Americans can say whether Republicans actually change their mind about Trump? He’s said so many awful things actually. Do people support him no matter what? I just don’t understand the cult following he seems to have. He can do whatever and he’ll still get support?

Early on, Trump famously said that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue (New York) and not lose any supporters. Weirdly, that turns out to be more or less true. He has a hard-core Republican base which will forgive and believe almost anything.

One of the big puzzles to Democrats is, why? After all, Trump's policies can hurt his own constituents. And they don't seem able to see through to this. (Do you have the catch-phrase there, “I never thought leopards would eat MY face?")

There's a small possibility that things may shift with Epstein revelation - which is strange to me, as Trump did far more damage elsewhere. Also, right at the moment, considerable outrage about the young woman shot by immigration police. But Trump is generally "Teflon."

Sweetiedarling7 · 10/01/2026 23:47

@MsAmerica I appreciate that not everybody who supports trump is poorly educated but from what I see it seems to be that much of his appeal is that he talks in a very vulgar, ignorant and aggressive manner which endears him to uneducated voters and these are the bulk of his base.
Combine this with his being a “celebrity” and the ingrained misogyny, huge value placed on personal wealth in the much of the US and he is the perfect candidate for his intended demographic.
The rest of his more educated supporters being very much focused on themselves and money and don’t care about others or the world in general.
It seems to me that his success is an illustration of all that is wrong with much of humanity.
Then there are republicans who voted for him just because he was not a democrat. I wonder if they feel there us any hope of reclaiming their party from what he has made it into?
Just my thoughts as someone in the UK looking on in horror.

MsAmerica · 12/01/2026 20:59

Sweetiedarling7 · 10/01/2026 23:47

@MsAmerica I appreciate that not everybody who supports trump is poorly educated but from what I see it seems to be that much of his appeal is that he talks in a very vulgar, ignorant and aggressive manner which endears him to uneducated voters and these are the bulk of his base.
Combine this with his being a “celebrity” and the ingrained misogyny, huge value placed on personal wealth in the much of the US and he is the perfect candidate for his intended demographic.
The rest of his more educated supporters being very much focused on themselves and money and don’t care about others or the world in general.
It seems to me that his success is an illustration of all that is wrong with much of humanity.
Then there are republicans who voted for him just because he was not a democrat. I wonder if they feel there us any hope of reclaiming their party from what he has made it into?
Just my thoughts as someone in the UK looking on in horror.

Thank you, @Sweetiedarling7, for that astute reaction. I think you're right on all counts. I know a few Republican/Conservatives who started switching and voting for the Democrat/Liberal candidate, starting with Obama, but they're a minority. There are also a couple of prominent Rep/Cons, like Sarah Longwell, who have started anti-Trump projects, but that doesn't seem to have moved the needle.

LemonyCurd · 12/01/2026 21:04

If it helps, first time round I was a Clinton fan and thought Trump was terrible. I have completely switched. I admire the way he conducts himself on the world stage, I love how he’s putting proper American values first. He’s a maverick, a huge risk taker, and was desperately needed. I was sick of world leaders acting like wet lettuces. It feels like America has a leader again.

MsAmerica · 12/01/2026 21:27

LemonyCurd · 12/01/2026 21:04

If it helps, first time round I was a Clinton fan and thought Trump was terrible. I have completely switched. I admire the way he conducts himself on the world stage, I love how he’s putting proper American values first. He’s a maverick, a huge risk taker, and was desperately needed. I was sick of world leaders acting like wet lettuces. It feels like America has a leader again.

I completely disagree, but I appreciate your putting it so politely and fully.

"Proper American values" would normally include respecting Constitutional guarantees of free speech and freedom of the press. Proper American values would include respect for the rule of law. Proper American values would be treating all people with some semblance of fairness, not wreaking "retribution" on anyone who ever dissented. Proper American values would be respecting people's right to vote, not creating impediments.

Then, universal values would presumably include treating women respectfully, not bragging about grabbing them by the crotch. Universal values would include trying to provide health care. Universal values would include respecting the sovereignty of other nations. Universal values would include avoiding rounding up innocent people.

I wonder very much if you'd still admire him if his same actions were directed at the U.K.

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