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Another Brexit exponent taking Russian money?

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Circularmadness · 28/11/2025 16:14

Nathan Gill is merely the tip of the iceberg.
”In the messages, sent two months after Coburn joined the Brexit Party, Voloshyn discussed money apparently set aside for Coburn while he was bribing Gill.”
The irony is almost too perfect: one of the loud voices for “taking back control” from Europe has himself taken back his own control by fleeing the country he helped detach and now living comfortably in France.
Russia had a vested interest in the outcome of Brexit and suspicious money seems to have flowed toward key figures.
Perhaps the clearest indictment comes from within the Brexit camp itself. Ryan Bourne, one of the leading pro-Brexit economists who campaigned vigorously for Leave in 2016, has now publicly admitted the following:

  • Brexit has made Britain poorer
  • Business investment has collapsed
  • Productivity has weakened
  • Companies dependent on EU trade have slashed jobs and spending
  • New trade barriers are permanently holding the economy back
  • Brexit has deepened the fiscal crisis
  • There are no significant offsetting benefits
  • The damage is clear, undeniable, and visible in the data

Even the people who designed Brexit are now telling the truth, while Farage continues to lie.

Given everything we now know the Russian contacts, the unexplained money, the strategic alignment with Moscow’s geopolitical aims it strains credulity to believe Farage himself has not benefited from Russian funds. After all, Brexit delivered precisely what the Kremlin wanted most: a weakened United Kingdom and a fractured more vulnerable Europe.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/ex-brexit-party-politician-denies-taking-pro-russian-payments-400761/?fbclid=IwdGRleAOWnhBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEes_ZMQnlqpOHvLcZrCNNe-Dj5pbnhfE15xFAx5Xum1pLg1ViV5kM2tmkBbvM_aem_DfuufHtrcsZgToMnOzO4CQ#40jvy944mlmv8tfvsl2yahu85122pda4g

Another Brexit exponent taking Russian money?
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Happyher · 28/11/2025 16:17

Have signed the petition for parliament to investigate?

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GlobeTrotter2000 · 28/11/2025 17:43

The revoke article 50 petition received 6,103,056 “signatures” over a period of 6 months, but was dismissed by the government.

link is

petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/241584

Circularmadness · 28/11/2025 18:15

GlobeTrotter2000 · 28/11/2025 17:43

The revoke article 50 petition received 6,103,056 “signatures” over a period of 6 months, but was dismissed by the government.

link is

petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/241584

That's an astonishing number of signatures, but the petition was actually debated back in 2019. I suppose at the time Parliament felt that the UK population had clearly voted for Brexit in the referendum and that they had a democratic duty to deliver it.

Russian interference poses a direct threat to our country’s security and absolutely needs to be properly investigated. If this new petition reaches 100,000 signatures, it will at least force another debate in Parliament.

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GlobeTrotter2000 · 28/11/2025 21:03

I keep hearing about the alleged Russian interference, but where is the evidence? What does Russia gain from such interference?

However, I would agree that potential security risks should be investigated regardless of the source.

Circularmadness · 29/11/2025 06:59

We require a thorough investigation into it as it’s not been properly scrutinised. There’s been allegations from MI5, MI6, GCHQ, parliamentary committees and court findings. The consensus from British intelligence is that Russia has repeatedly tried to meddle in UK democratic processes. Key examples of this are the 2014 Scottish independence referendum and 2016 Brexit vote.The 2020 “Russia Report” said there was extensive open-source evidence of Russian attempts (RT/Sputnik amplification, troll farms, coordinated social-media activity) but the government at the time never commissioned a proper retrospective investigation into Brexit itself. In my opinion a deliberate blind eye.

During the 2019 general electionRussia hacked and leaked confidential UK /US trade documents. The FSB (a specialised cyber unit within Russia's Federal Security Service and a successor to the KGB) leaked files which were then spread on Reddit and elsewhere to damage Labour and sow distrust. The government later confirmed this was “almost certainly” Russian interference.

In the 2024 general election, ahead of the vote, ministers publicly warned of Russian bot activity and disinformation campaigns describing the UK as one of Moscow’s top Western targets.

But the operations are ongoing the FSB’s Centre 18 has ran long term spear-phishing and hacking operations against MPs, journalists, think-tanks and NGOs.
Several people have been convicted in the UK for espionage and even arson plots on Russia’s behalf.

Plenty of evidence of persistent attempts cyber intrusions, leaks, disinformation, agent recruitment

The UK is a prize target because it’s a leading voice in NATO, a major provider of weapons and intelligence to Ukraine and the architect of many of the toughest sanctions.

Russia gains by weaking the UK. Brexit hurt EU unity & Scottish independence would split a key NATO member. Sowing division and distrust in democratic institutions weakens Western unity with Brexit and Scottish independence both playing into that. It erodes public trust in democratic institutions the more people think “the system is rigged anyway,” the less cohesion there is to oppose Putin. It retaliates for sanctions and military support to Ukraine at very low cost (a few hackers and troll farms vs billions in frozen assets and lost influence). It keeps the UK politically distracted and divided, making it harder for London to lead a united Western response

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Circularmadness · 29/11/2025 07:00

Circularmadness · 28/11/2025 16:22

Yes! This absolutely must happen!!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/744215
almost at 85k!!

Up to 92k 🙌🏻🙌🏻

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MikeRafone · 29/11/2025 07:07

I was surprised when the information came out about Cambridge analytics, that people didn’t start to wake up with what was happening with the Russian influence.

Circularmadness · 29/11/2025 07:19

MikeRafone · 29/11/2025 07:07

I was surprised when the information came out about Cambridge analytics, that people didn’t start to wake up with what was happening with the Russian influence.

Oh No Ugh GIF

Agree! There was an almost wilful intention not to look at it.

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CypressGrove · 29/11/2025 07:22

GlobeTrotter2000 · 28/11/2025 21:03

I keep hearing about the alleged Russian interference, but where is the evidence? What does Russia gain from such interference?

However, I would agree that potential security risks should be investigated regardless of the source.

Russia wants destabilisation.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 29/11/2025 09:36

@Circularmadness

but the government at the time never commissioned a proper retrospective investigation into Brexit itself

Russia gains by weaking the UK. Brexit hurt EU unity & Scottish independence would split a key NATO member

The above sounds like an attempt to argue that:

• Brexit must be reversed,

• the EU shall ignore all events since 2016 and UK will resume EU membership on the same terms as before,

• Scotland will be deemed to have voted for independence in 2014 and be an EU member

I don’t see any of the above happening.

Sounds like you are from Scotland and huffed

Circularmadness · 29/11/2025 09:43

GlobeTrotter2000 · 29/11/2025 09:36

@Circularmadness

but the government at the time never commissioned a proper retrospective investigation into Brexit itself

Russia gains by weaking the UK. Brexit hurt EU unity & Scottish independence would split a key NATO member

The above sounds like an attempt to argue that:

• Brexit must be reversed,

• the EU shall ignore all events since 2016 and UK will resume EU membership on the same terms as before,

• Scotland will be deemed to have voted for independence in 2014 and be an EU member

I don’t see any of the above happening.

Sounds like you are from Scotland and huffed

Eh? Wanting to investigate Russian influence makes me Scottish and huffed does it? 😂 By this rational you sound Russian, what’s it like in your bot farm? 😂🤪🤪

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GlobeTrotter2000 · 29/11/2025 09:48

It’s your reference to Scottish independence that makes me think you are from Scotland. After all, how many people outside of Scotland would be interested whether or not Scotland was independent?

Circularmadness · 29/11/2025 10:25

Eh? According to the intelligence and security committee report 2020, there is substantial evidence that Russian interference in the British economy and politics is commonplace. Evidence was uncovered detailing interference in the 2014 Scottish Independence referendum aimed at promoting Scottish independence in an attempt to divide and conquer the UK. if you are British why would you not be concerned at Russian influence within the Uk??!!

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GlobeTrotter2000 · 29/11/2025 10:34

There have been cyber attacks in the UK recently and the chancellor suggested Russian involvement. However, she didn’t provide any evidence.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/23/reeves_blames_russia_cyberattacks/

Brexit, Russia, Trump all seem convenient and easy ways for governments to deflect from their own failures.

Russia has huge nuclear arsenal and vast oil and gas reserves. So, why would they feel threatened by anyone?

UK chancellor blames cyberattacks on Russia despite evidence

: Reeves points finger at Moscow in interview when authorities reckon it's local lads

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/23/reeves_blames_russia_cyberattacks

CypressGrove · 29/11/2025 10:41

GlobeTrotter2000 · 29/11/2025 10:34

There have been cyber attacks in the UK recently and the chancellor suggested Russian involvement. However, she didn’t provide any evidence.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/23/reeves_blames_russia_cyberattacks/

Brexit, Russia, Trump all seem convenient and easy ways for governments to deflect from their own failures.

Russia has huge nuclear arsenal and vast oil and gas reserves. So, why would they feel threatened by anyone?

Are you really not aware that Russia pursues a systematic strategy of undermining elections and influencing public opinion in the West?

GlobeTrotter2000 · 29/11/2025 10:58

There are many claims that cyber attacks are attributable to Russia, but none seem to be provable.

Russia can sell energy to China and India. So, they don’t need to sell to the West, EU or UK.

ClockGoesBack · 29/11/2025 11:20

GlobeTrotter2000 · 28/11/2025 21:03

I keep hearing about the alleged Russian interference, but where is the evidence? What does Russia gain from such interference?

However, I would agree that potential security risks should be investigated regardless of the source.

Are these serious questions?🤔

ClockGoesBack · 29/11/2025 11:33

Circularmadness · 29/11/2025 09:43

Eh? Wanting to investigate Russian influence makes me Scottish and huffed does it? 😂 By this rational you sound Russian, what’s it like in your bot farm? 😂🤪🤪

I was going to say the same - most likely russian bot. They always follow the same pattern on mumsnet - prolific posting, completely overtaking the thread etc

Ironically, OP, I’m Russian born. I’ve left when Putin started his 2nd term as it’s became clear where it’s all heading. It horrifies me to watch how UK is sleepwalking into disaster.

There’s a good podcast on this topic “Sergei and the Westminster Spy Ring” by Carole Cadwalladr for anyone interested in this topic

DuncinToffee · 29/11/2025 13:39

Here's UKIP's former Scottish leader David Coburn, who has denied taking Russian bribes after being named in Whatsapp messages between Nathan Gill and a pawn of the Putin administration, being applauded by Gill for arguing against Ukraine's entry to the EU

https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3m6osctsmhs2o

More examples in the thread

DuncinToffee · 29/11/2025 15:28

Any Russian money links there?

GlobeTrotter2000 · 29/11/2025 15:43

There’s none been rumoured. However, point was that the chancellor said Brexit was a cause of the black hole, but now there’s a question mark whether or not there was such a black hole.

Circularmadness · 29/11/2025 18:34

What in the whataboutary deflection is this?? 🙄

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