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Demonstration on 13th September

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Tropics4 · 30/08/2025 15:28

I have followed the progress of various protests, the Epping Hotel one is not far from me, not that I have got involved either way and I honestly don't know what the answer is there, I can see both sides have a point.

Then I've seen advertised further protests like the one above, to be honest it looks a bit scary. Then the counter protests planned for the same day, it struck me that the police will have their work cut out keeping the two sides apart.

Wouldn't it make more sense to have each protest on a different day? With both sides feeling passionate enough about their view to give their time and energy to travel and march for their cause it's not surprising that facing an opposing view often erupts into trouble.
Also perhaps each 'argument' could be more clearly 'heard' without the distractions of conflict.
Or is that the point maybe, that each view must be challenged at the point of protest?
Perhaps I'm thinking of it in too simplistic terms, but I'm thinking of people being injured or property damaged in the process, happy to be corrected.

I don't want to get involved in a political argument - that's not the point of my post just really to ask regarding if it is reasonable to separate opposing views so that the can't protest in the same area or if they want to protest in the same area then they could choose a different day.

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BlueJuniper94 · 30/08/2025 17:24

I agree they should be separate for everyone's peace and safety

dwordle · 30/08/2025 22:44

Why are people protesting outside hotels, why on earth would you protest about something that doesn't concern you.

We all know people are coming over in boats, trucks etc and the government has to do something about it. In the meantime these people need to be housed somewhere until they can be processed and sent home.

QueenOfHiraeth · 30/08/2025 22:55

I suspect that there are some protesters who would choose to schedule protests on the same day as they want to show dominance over the opposing point of view.

ThisChicPinkRaven · 01/09/2025 07:27

BlueJuniper94 · 30/08/2025 17:24

I agree they should be separate for everyone's peace and safety

That rather defeats the purpose, though. As @QueenOfHiraeth says, the point of this kind of counter-protest is to be present at - and directly show - the 'protesters' that their racist bullshit is neither acceptable or welcome in an enlightened society.

It's a show of force, rightly designed to send a clear message to the racists.

Tropics4 · 01/09/2025 09:44

Oh OK thankyou

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BlueJuniper94 · 01/09/2025 18:09

ThisChicPinkRaven · 01/09/2025 07:27

That rather defeats the purpose, though. As @QueenOfHiraeth says, the point of this kind of counter-protest is to be present at - and directly show - the 'protesters' that their racist bullshit is neither acceptable or welcome in an enlightened society.

It's a show of force, rightly designed to send a clear message to the racists.

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Didn't we all agree that democracy was the way we would settle societal disputes? Rather than what side can gather the most powerful army and use violence to settle it? Are we really back to might makes right?

ThisChicPinkRaven · 01/09/2025 18:33

BlueJuniper94 · 01/09/2025 18:09

Didn't we all agree that democracy was the way we would settle societal disputes? Rather than what side can gather the most powerful army and use violence to settle it? Are we really back to might makes right?

We did. And that agreement - the one to which I personally adhere, if there was any doubt - held true for decades, but I genuinely fear we are returning to a state where your second and third questions are becoming the state of affairs.

Human nature is cyclical. It is also stunningly asinine. To the point where I increasingly think that it might be better just to build a starship, take off, and leave the stupidity of humanity to it. 🙄

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