Reform's true colours?

[StandFirm]

Really? Is this what one of NF's so-called advisors think? My grandfather who fought in Dunkirk would have knocked some sense into the little toad.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/16/nigel-farage-adviser-uk-would-be-better-off-if-it-had-not-fought-nazi-germany

Sounds like a sociopath. Aggressively isolationist, myopic and doesn't believe in human rights or decency. A lot of them are crawling out of the woodwork.

I thought the NF was for National Front not Nigel Farage in saying that not that much difference.

He’s 23, hopefully he’ll grow up one day.

You are being too charitable Blossom!

Possibly. If I were Farage I’d be embarrassed to have an “advisor” who was so immature and out of touch.

I think a 23 year old ‘advisor’ tells us what the problem is, here. The pre-frontal cortex isn’t developed until mid-20s, not to mention the clear dearth of experience. The fact that Reform are fielding children as candidates speaks to the lack of real support and planning around this operation.

It does - and it also points to Musk's influence on Reform (anyone remember the $100m gift?) Is this guy here meant to be our Big Balls? God help us.

He is young and inexperienced. Like many of the Reform Councillors who have been elected recently.

But I very much doubt that he's going to give up his extreme views as he grows in maturity. I mean, look at the likes of Farage and Tice. They are slightly better at trying to present a more acceptable public image, of course, but dig a little deeper and it's easy to see what they stand for. Their decision to work with this odious little idiot merely underlines the fact that they don't find his views incompatible with their own.

Sadly, we may sleepwalk into a government that is led by these people. It's terrifying.

Agree.

This makes me think a voting age of 16 is not a reasonable idea.

What difference would it make? This idiot has been able to vote for five years.

This young man has been given the opportunity to influence our politics by someone much older than him. Farage knows exactly what he is doing.

This is not about 16 year olds having the right to vote. There are plenty of Reform voters who are certainly old enough to know better.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGlNnMsxlv-/?igsh=MWxuOXloYXI5c2h5dQ==

Setting aside the word political take, he's talking as if we could have ignored the fighting in Europe and it would all have been fine. No, we would have been invaded. Does he think fighting back would have been in the national interest in that case, or does he think becoming a Nazi state ourselves would have been a desirable outcome (actually wouldn't surprise me). Silly little boy.

Do you support 16 year olds having the right to vote?

This really amused me. If Malta hadn’t been defended, it would have been reduced to dust.

if Britain had not fought in WW1 and WW2, it would not have had to rely on America for economic support, and it would have had the independence to act accordingly. Britain could have developed India, Cyprus, Fiji, Malta, Saint Lucia, Seychelles, the Bahamas, Australia, Canada, South Africa, Ireland and New Zealand.

Isn’t that “whataboutery”?

Of course, he is completely historically illiterate. I don't even know where to start!

Honestly, OP, I think yabu to expect him to be historically literate. You need to understand that history is irrelevant to Reform because they don't deal in facts.

Of course, of course... I know...

@StandFirm , that’s a nice bit of click bait propaganda.
This young man was employed in a sub contracted capacity to run media campaigns. He is not a representative of Reform any more than you are.

You're right, he isn't a representative of Reform. Farage is far too canny to put this individual into a public facing role. But he is very closely associated with Reform in general, and Farage in particular, behind the scenes. That is no accident.

You can choose to turn a blind eye if you want to. It doesn't change what Reform is or what Farage stands for.

We can learn a lot about people from looking at their close associates.

I never claimed he was something he's not - but he is affiliated with them in his capacity as an adviser and they should certainly vet who they employ, especially for something as sensitive as media campaigns.

He's not smart enough to advance counterfactuals.

However it's worth highlighting that he's picked up on a distinct argument before 1939 that the UK should leave Hitler alone ("Hurrah for the blackshirts") and let Germany and Russia slug it out while we picked up the nice bits that got thrown away. So he's not working from scratch here. Even in his first war cabinet Churchill had to deal with a distinct appeasement faction.

But as it was Japanese aggression that bought the US into the war (nothing to do with the European war Britain would be sitting out) then 1942 would have seen a US at war with the Axis powers, and their "ally" Britain, having done fuck all to help them now being dragged into the war kicking and screaming. And if the US hated the British Empire beforehand (and they did) then they would have made even more sure that it ceased to exist when they won the war that it turned out they did.

He can't help his age (who among us can ?). But it's unfortunate that he has this massive revelation just after there are no more people left who fought in the war he seems embarrassed about.

What does he actually think he’s saying? We fought for the freedom to be crap? Is that it?

He’s just one of those dime-a-dozen young right wing edge lords. Thick as mince.