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BIossomtoes · 06/06/2025 17:05

Lookjaz · 06/06/2025 17:03

Nobody should be pleased with the result. Labour winning with less than a third of the vote is not good. It means nearly 70% of those that actually voted did not want Labour to win.

That’s first past the post. 🤷‍♀️

Abhannmor · 06/06/2025 17:05

beguilingeyes · 06/06/2025 11:06

It's like after the Council elections. The media were behaving as if five seats Farage were already Prime Minister. They are almost willing him to win. And today he's lost his Chairman.

The commentariat seem desperate for Reform to win the next GE. Partly because the Tories are nowhere and partly because Starmer is boring. They yearn for the excitement they see across the pond.

They'll have plenty to talk about when Reform sells off the NHS, scraps the BBC and tanks the economy. There's a sneak preview of that scenario playing out in councils they run already. But that's sooo boring isnt it.💤

anyolddinosaur · 06/06/2025 17:05

I'm not into lying to please people - Labour didnt do well.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2025 17:06

anyolddinosaur · 06/06/2025 17:05

I'm not into lying to please people - Labour didnt do well.

They fucking won - what would doing better look like?

Tofu35 · 06/06/2025 17:08

It's my local seat, labour threw everything but the kitchen seat at this. We had people at our door every day in the week running up to it, and before that was daily pamphlets. Reform didn't come to our estate, but up the road in Larkhall they had a open top reform bus blaring down the main street.

Westfacing · 06/06/2025 17:09

anyolddinosaur · 06/06/2025 17:05

I'm not into lying to please people - Labour didnt do well.

They won and denied Reform a victory - that's well enough for me.

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BethDuttonYeHaw · 06/06/2025 17:12

Thank Feck they won and beat the SNP.
Gives me a little hope for next year. Could this finally be the end of the cult of the SNP and their complete grasp on power?

no point anyone flapping their hands about turnout though - it’s a by-election and that turnout isn’t bad for Lanarkshire.

pointythings · 06/06/2025 17:12

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2025 17:06

They fucking won - what would doing better look like?

Nothing Labour do will ever be considered good by some. Meanwhile Reform have 4 years to utterly fuck up the councils they now run and I'm sure they won't let us down in that sense. Let them have the rope, I say.

pointythings · 06/06/2025 17:14

anyolddinosaur · 06/06/2025 17:05

I'm not into lying to please people - Labour didnt do well.

You're like a Dutch sports commentator I recall from the 90s who complained that the winner of the actual Olympic gold didn't do it in a world record.

BethDuttonYeHaw · 06/06/2025 17:14

For comparison the Hamilton by-election of 1999 had a lower turnout than this one.

tobee · 06/06/2025 17:26

Populists like Farage and Trump and Johnson thrive on publicity. And the media seem to be unable to not give it to them.

Abhannmor · 06/06/2025 19:13

pointythings · 06/06/2025 17:12

Nothing Labour do will ever be considered good by some. Meanwhile Reform have 4 years to utterly fuck up the councils they now run and I'm sure they won't let us down in that sense. Let them have the rope, I say.

They've already given up in Cornwall? And the Northumberland North branch has been suspended, I'm not sure why. In Lincs they are scrapping the tiresome flood defence arrangements. The pension schemes are closed to new employees in councils they control and they are sacking people. All in all a great start...not. Four years will be a long time for these half wits.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2025 19:31

The pension schemes are closed to new employees in councils they control

They’re not because that would be illegal and they’ll be very swiftly taken to court if they try it. It’s Dubai Dick’s fantasy. Is there any evidence that they’re sacking people? I haven’t seen any, they haven’t had time to go through the legally required redundancy process.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 06/06/2025 19:45

Tofu35 · 06/06/2025 17:08

It's my local seat, labour threw everything but the kitchen seat at this. We had people at our door every day in the week running up to it, and before that was daily pamphlets. Reform didn't come to our estate, but up the road in Larkhall they had a open top reform bus blaring down the main street.

Despite the concern about the simple fact 26.1% of the turnout voted Reform, it's actually a little bit reassuring that if they can't win a constituency seat in a by-election in the most staunchly unionist part of the Central Belt, when there are unpopular governments in both Westminster and Holyrood, then there's not much hope of them picking any up in a full General Election when voter turnout is likely to be much higher. Still expect them to pick up perhaps 12-15 MSP's on the list, but it already looks like directly elected members are beyond them.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 06/06/2025 19:48

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2025 17:06

They fucking won - what would doing better look like?

Their vote share is down about 20% on last years GE seats in the same area. Not surprising given its a Holyrood by-election less than a year out from a full SGE so voter apathy is always going to be a factor, but I think it's indicative of the fact that the post-2024 honeymoon period is well and truly over.

derxa · 06/06/2025 19:55

I wonder who the Daily Record supported.

Theyreeatingthedogs · 06/06/2025 21:02

Tofu35 · 06/06/2025 17:08

It's my local seat, labour threw everything but the kitchen seat at this. We had people at our door every day in the week running up to it, and before that was daily pamphlets. Reform didn't come to our estate, but up the road in Larkhall they had a open top reform bus blaring down the main street.

Going for the knuckle dragging vote!!! What a surprise.

Abhannmor · 07/06/2025 08:03

At least the Orange Order have colourful costumes though.

User37482 · 07/06/2025 08:10

In my experience Labour have amazing ground game compared to other political parties. Turnout was 40% (turnout in the 2021 scottish election was 60%). Not convinced they’ll hold it next time though.

Westfacing · 07/06/2025 08:50

Abhannmor · 07/06/2025 08:03

At least the Orange Order have colourful costumes though.

Did they vote for Reform?

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Abhannmor · 07/06/2025 22:22

Westfacing · 07/06/2025 08:50

Did they vote for Reform?

I don't know if they vote as a block. The first SNP member I ever met was a Gers fan - though he was not an Orangeman. Broadly speaking I'd say most members of the order would vote Tory / Reform though?

HelenaWaiting · 08/06/2025 00:44

xanthomelana · 06/06/2025 09:30

They didn’t do well. Somehow they’ve managed to win with less votes than when they lost in 2021. They need to look at where they are losing votes to and why.

The total number of overall votes cast was substantially lower than it was in 2021.

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