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Gilead

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deeahgwitch · 23/02/2025 14:21

Anyone watch The Handmaid's Tale ?
Is what is happening in the US now how the fictionalised Gilead began ?
Except Canada was a place of safety in the TV series but DT wants it to become a US state Shock

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Zone2NorthLondon · 23/02/2025 14:42

Handmaid tale aesthetically looked great but really minimised the dystopian crushing nature of the state
All That jolly scrabble with the commander. He was a tyrant. A senior member of a political social elite that disempowers women.
Canada was chosen for proximity and allegorical reasons and Atwood is of course Canadian

nearlylovemyusername · 23/02/2025 14:59

Haven't seen TV adaptation but red both The Handmaid's Tale and The Testaments. Yes, it seems to be exactly the same what's happening in the US now.

deeahgwitch · 23/02/2025 17:42

I didn’t think The Handmaid's Tale tv series minimised the dystopian crushing nature of the state.
I thought the portrayal was terrifying.
I found it very difficult to watch @Zone2NorthLondon
We'll agree to differ.

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Meadowfinch · 23/02/2025 17:44

DT can want all he likes. He won't get it.

JasmineAllen · 23/02/2025 17:53

I read the book when it came out. Wasn't it set after a nuclear war/accident. I seem to remember radioactive wastelands?? Women not being able to have bank accounts, second marriages declared illegal, Japanese tourists as well as the actual handmaid's.

So no, I don't think modern day US is anything like Gilead. It's a good book though and I enjoyed the twist at the end.

peanutbuttertoasty · 23/02/2025 17:55

Zone2NorthLondon · 23/02/2025 14:42

Handmaid tale aesthetically looked great but really minimised the dystopian crushing nature of the state
All That jolly scrabble with the commander. He was a tyrant. A senior member of a political social elite that disempowers women.
Canada was chosen for proximity and allegorical reasons and Atwood is of course Canadian

That’s not my take at all. I found it horrifying. more so than the book.

peanutbuttertoasty · 23/02/2025 17:56

Anyone know when next series is out in uk?

deeahgwitch · 23/02/2025 19:37

I didn't read the book but watched the Hula tv series

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terracelane23 · 23/02/2025 19:38

peanutbuttertoasty · 23/02/2025 17:56

Anyone know when next series is out in uk?

According to IMDB it's out April 8th.

Zone2NorthLondon · 23/02/2025 19:43

deeahgwitch · 23/02/2025 19:37

I didn't read the book but watched the Hula tv series

You have not read the book and you’ve only watched the tv,so you’ll not have read nuances and plot points that the tv show didn’t develop. A tv adaptation of a book will have a different emphasis. The tv show looked amazing, the aesthetic were spot on,but it was not very deep exploration. It was about superficial

MsAmerica · 28/02/2025 00:43

No, not really how it began.
Atwood has always said, though, that everything in her book already existed.

deeahgwitch · 28/02/2025 19:21

I know that Margaret Attwood has said that every awful thing that happened to women in The Handmaid's Tale had been perpetrated against women through centuries.

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UnderHisEeyore · 28/02/2025 19:35

I dunno, they stormed Capitol Hill with violence in Handmaid's Tale...

haufbiskiy · 28/02/2025 19:37

under his eye

UnderHisEeyore · 28/02/2025 20:43

May the Lord open

haufbiskiy · 28/02/2025 20:59

I wish someone would say Blessed Day to Trump on camera to see whether he responds in kind

JHound · 28/02/2025 21:09

I feel the need to add that Atwood has said everything in her original book has already taken place in various points in history on earth.

But if the US is shifting that way with religious fanaticism and more codified misogyny - that’s what they voted for (most of them. My sympathies go to the communities who overwhelmingly rejected Trump - namely Jewish and Black Americans.)

UnderHisEeyore · 28/02/2025 22:05

JHound · 28/02/2025 21:09

I feel the need to add that Atwood has said everything in her original book has already taken place in various points in history on earth.

But if the US is shifting that way with religious fanaticism and more codified misogyny - that’s what they voted for (most of them. My sympathies go to the communities who overwhelmingly rejected Trump - namely Jewish and Black Americans.)

Question is are we strong enough to stand up to it spreading here if they have doubled up with Russia - we are somewhat reliant and surrounded by 2 super powers. Don't think China is that keen on us either tbh...

JHound · 01/03/2025 14:16

UnderHisEeyore · 28/02/2025 22:05

Question is are we strong enough to stand up to it spreading here if they have doubled up with Russia - we are somewhat reliant and surrounded by 2 super powers. Don't think China is that keen on us either tbh...

There would never be a Gilead here because we don’t have the same levels of Christian fanaticism and ultra conservatism that the USA does.

UnderHisEeyore · 01/03/2025 14:19

JHound · 01/03/2025 14:16

There would never be a Gilead here because we don’t have the same levels of Christian fanaticism and ultra conservatism that the USA does.

I remember thinking Brexit would never happen because people weren't that stupid too...

JHound · 01/03/2025 14:23

UnderHisEeyore · 01/03/2025 14:19

I remember thinking Brexit would never happen because people weren't that stupid too...

That’s not the same thing.

We have the cultural basis for Brexit to happen. The UK was always a difficult EU partner and our press has always been anti-EU.

We are not a religious fundamentalist country. Our conservative party on key issues are to the left of the US Democrats.

BadSkiingMum · 02/03/2025 10:02

I found the tv series nightmare-inducing, in some ways more so than the book (which I had read when I was quite young).

As to the future, I am not sure. A couple of odd thoughts have been going through my mind recently with the arrival of AI and the disappearance of jobs. Fundamentally, the idea of each person being financially self-sufficient via earning an income may no longer work in a technology-dominated future. Will we see a future where some women or men become subservient to others because that’s the only economic option?

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