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Lammy opening reparations talks

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Hoppingabout · 08/02/2025 10:40

David Lammy is opening slavery reparations talks with Caribbean officials who are demanding trillions of pounds from UK taxpayers (thats money from your purse).

So people who have never experienced slavery to be paid trillions by people who have never had slaves.

While ignoring modern day slavery happening now.

Is this moral? Discuss

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/07/foreign-office-opens-talks-on-paying-slavery-reparations/

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Bromptotoo · 08/02/2025 10:51

The article is paywalled and I'm beggared if I'm giving money to the proprietors of the Telegraph.

The article however refers to demands for trillions. Do we think the UK Government could simply ignore the Countries concerned?

I think that might be the diplomatic equivalent of a raised middle finger.

Talks will be held but concessions amounting to billions or trillions are fantasy stuff.

Hoppingabout · 08/02/2025 11:01

Bromptotoo · 08/02/2025 10:51

The article is paywalled and I'm beggared if I'm giving money to the proprietors of the Telegraph.

The article however refers to demands for trillions. Do we think the UK Government could simply ignore the Countries concerned?

I think that might be the diplomatic equivalent of a raised middle finger.

Talks will be held but concessions amounting to billions or trillions are fantasy stuff.

It's quite a long article or I would screenshot.

Essentially it says that a delegation of Carribean countries are coming to discuss the matter. They have never tried before as the Conservatives refused to discuss reparations at all. However Lammy supports them as does the new Attorney General who also had a hand in the Chagos deal. It has apparently inspired the African Union to try for the same.

It will be interesting to see how David Lammy deals with this given his support for reparations.

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TheNuthatch · 08/02/2025 16:55

I cant read it op. I hope this is just Lammy trying to get some attention.
Wasn't there talk of reparations at CHOGM '24? I'll try and find an article, but I'm sure Starmer was against discussing reparations went he went to Samoa.

Chuchoter · 08/02/2025 17:17

My author friend wrote this earlier today -

Daniel Jupp -

Labour to enter slavery reparations negotiations. Led by David Lammy who said that as a Caribbean man he wanted reparations. That’s Britain’s Foreign Secretary.

Reparations of course are race based theft.

Britain already paid. We paid in blood, sweat and effort building the Empire. We paid by ending the international slave trade. We paid by saving the world multiple times from dictators and genuinely evil empires. We literally paid to free slaves across the entire Empire. That sum was so vast we were still paying it into the early 2000s.

We are the only nation that did something like that.

And we have paid with decades of foreign aid since. Robbing from the people of Britain to give to everyone else.

But Labour hate their own country. Labour hate white people. So here we are.

Your grannies can freeze to death while we promise billions or even trillions we don’t have to other countries. To no doubt make their political class fabulously wealthy.

Because ‘slavery’.

Seems a lot like we are the slaves, doesn’t it?

MissRoseDurward · 08/02/2025 17:31

How much is being demanded from the Portuguese, the Spanish, the French, the Dutch.... and the Arabs, who were continuing to operate a slave trade long after most European nations had ended it, a trade which Britain put a lot of effort into trying to suppress.

TheNuthatch · 08/02/2025 17:46

MissRoseDurward · 08/02/2025 17:31

How much is being demanded from the Portuguese, the Spanish, the French, the Dutch.... and the Arabs, who were continuing to operate a slave trade long after most European nations had ended it, a trade which Britain put a lot of effort into trying to suppress.

Yes this, and the African nations who kidnapped and sold their own people to the Europeans for profit.

1dayatatime · 09/02/2025 11:39

So firstly those who were enslaved most definitely suffered harm however the reality is that those that did the enslaving and those that were enslaved are now long dead, so why should their descendants either pay compensation or receive it.

Given that any compensation would be paid by UK taxpayers you will have the descendants of UK nationals who were themselves at the time living in conditions of servitude having to pay compensation. Indeed what about the UK Afro Caribbean communities should they be paying compensation through their UK taxes to Caribbean countries?

Given that there are now more people in slavery or indentured labour than there ever was at the height of the trans Atlantic slave trade I would much rather Lammy focused his efforts and money on eradicating ongoing slavery in places such as Sudan, Mauritania and Xinjang.

Hoppingabout · 09/02/2025 13:03

Agreed. Well put. I would include the modern day slaves in the UK too in that list which very much exist.

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MichaelandKirk · 09/02/2025 15:54

Why is Lammy even engaging in this. Don’t ‘they’ want trillions??

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