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Italy's Albanian scheme has gone the same way as Rwanda

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username358 · 14/11/2024 16:29

A multimillion-dollar migration deal between Italy and Albania aimed at curbing arrivals was presented by the European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, as a new model for how to establish processing and detention centres for asylum seekers outside the EU.

The facilities in Albania were supposed to receive up to 3,000 men intercepted in international waters while crossing from Africa to Europe. But it seems neither von der Leyen nor Italy’s far-right prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, had taken existing law into account.

Just a month after the much-publicised opening, only 24 asylum seekers have been sent to Albania, and none remain there now; five spent less than 12 hours in a detention centre, while the rest stayed for just over 48 hours.

All were transferred to Italy after Italian judges deemed it unlawful to detain them in Albania prior to repatriation to countries, such as Bangladesh and Egypt, considered “safe” by Rome. In doing so the judges were upholding a 4 October ruling by the European Union’s court of justice (ECJ) that a country outside the bloc could not be declared safe unless its entire territory was deemed safe.
www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/14/italy-albania-asylum-deal-complete-failure-giorgia-meloni

Von der Leyen to ask EU leaders to explore using ‘return hubs’ for migrants

European Commission president cites Italy-Albania deal as possible model for reducing irregular arrivals to Europe

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/15/ursual-von-der-leyen-to-ask-eu-leaders-to-explore-using-return-hubs-for-migrants

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poetryandwine · 07/12/2024 16:56

Great news, OP. Thank you for sharing

username358 · 07/12/2024 17:29

poetryandwine · 07/12/2024 16:56

Great news, OP. Thank you for sharing

I don't know if it is such good news. The EU has written up a new migration directive where third countries will be used, irrespective of their human rights records.

Europe is in chaos right now. Two of its biggest powers, France and Germany have collapsed governments. The far right is waiting in the wings.

Things aren't looking good. I'm sensing a movement away from international human rights and cooperation.

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poetryandwine · 07/12/2024 17:36

I hope that is wrong, OP. The 1951 Convention has carried us a long way

username358 · 07/12/2024 17:39

poetryandwine · 07/12/2024 17:36

I hope that is wrong, OP. The 1951 Convention has carried us a long way

Quite a few countries are ignoring it and turning away asylum seekers.

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poetryandwine · 08/12/2024 12:46

Very depressing, and we will all pay the price

Alexandra2001 · 08/12/2024 12:56

username358 · 07/12/2024 17:29

I don't know if it is such good news. The EU has written up a new migration directive where third countries will be used, irrespective of their human rights records.

Europe is in chaos right now. Two of its biggest powers, France and Germany have collapsed governments. The far right is waiting in the wings.

Things aren't looking good. I'm sensing a movement away from international human rights and cooperation.

Chaos? normal rub of national politics.... how many PMs & GEs have we had in the last 8 years? have we collapsed?

Look at bond yields for Germany France and UK if you want to see which country the markets are worried about? top tip - it isn't the first two countries.

UK has the highest govt borrowing costs in all of the EU, that means we are seen as a riskier place to lend money too, we went from 1.8% to 5% with Liz Truss and have been north of 4% since then.

Right wing? our own Tory party are more to the right of Le Pen's RN, who want to stay in Europe and have a wide ranging and generous welfare system inc pensions...

Latest polling puts Reform level with the Conservatives....

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