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Kamala Harris as the election approaches

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MsAmerica · 31/10/2024 23:00

I just noticed that people are still chiming in on the outdated thread, the only one on Kamala, from months ago. Time for an update.

Two things are absolutely insane about the U.S. election. One is that it's theoretically still close. Okay, I'm not a fan of Kamala, but she's still a competent, experienced person with a background in law, versus Trump as an inexperienced ignoramus with fascist leanings, under multiple criminal indictments, whose speeches sound increasingly unhinged. Which brings me to the second weirdness, that supposedly there are still people claiming to be "undecided." I rather doubt that. I suspect they're either saying that because they like the attention - or they're like a neighbor of mine, who twice voted for Trump and is undecided as to whether she'll vote for Kamala or not at all.

Seems to me like the first time that the media has talked about "closing arguments," as if it were a legal trial, but:

7 takeaways from Harris’ big ‘closing argument’ campaign speech
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/harris-offers-voters-a-new-path-forward-in-speech-billed-as-her-campaigns-closing-argument

Kamala Harris has a closing argument. Donald Trump has something else
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/kamala-harris-has-a-closing-argument-donald-trump-has-something-else/ar-AA1ti1Ok?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Kamala Harris Draws Sharp Contrast With Donald Trump In Closing Argument Speech: “We Are Not A Vessel For The Schemes Of Wannabe Dictators”
deadline.com/2024/10/kamala-harris-closing-argument-trump-1236161703/

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Cnon · 01/11/2024 07:44

Yeah, and Prez Biden called Trump supporters garbage!

The president then added: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American. It’s totally contrary to everything we’ve done, everything we’ve been.”

apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e

Notmydaughteryoubitch · 01/11/2024 07:47

@Cnon - it's a good thing then that no-one is voting for Biden, Harris has done her best to distance herself from him and his statement. Her speech was clearly super centrist and focused on unifying the country. Not her fault that geriatric Biden can't keep his mouth shut, though clearly a blow at this point in the election cycle.

MillyMichaelson · 01/11/2024 08:11

Cnon · 01/11/2024 07:44

Yeah, and Prez Biden called Trump supporters garbage!

The president then added: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American. It’s totally contrary to everything we’ve done, everything we’ve been.”

apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e

I'm getting very angry about how this has been made news and forced onto Harris to denounce.

Trump says racist, offensive shit every single day, and it's just 'oh that's Trump for you'. He still seems to have the media absolutely stumped as to how to handle them in the way they do all other politicians.

It just seemed to me like a very forced issue, oh here we go, better stoke some outrage again.

I mean, this is just the most recent threatening violent batshittery. And we're meant to be mad at Joe Biden. Fuck off with imposing traditional norms only on those who live by norms, and letting off the hook those who don't.

apnews.com/article/election-trump-cheney-war-hawk-14e2037b4fd8d22acf64c8b888ce296d

Daisydaisydaizee · 02/11/2024 08:58

I'm not a fan of Kamala, but she's still a competent, experienced person with a background in law.

Why wpuld say you ate not a fan of you think she is competent?

Daisydaisydaizee · 02/11/2024 09:02

Notmydaughteryoubitch · 01/11/2024 07:47

@Cnon - it's a good thing then that no-one is voting for Biden, Harris has done her best to distance herself from him and his statement. Her speech was clearly super centrist and focused on unifying the country. Not her fault that geriatric Biden can't keep his mouth shut, though clearly a blow at this point in the election cycle.

Well he is not wrong if you are supporting a man spreading hatred every day, something wrong with you. Just to clarify by you, I didnt mean you.

MsAmerica · 04/11/2024 02:47

MillyMichaelson · 01/11/2024 08:11

I'm getting very angry about how this has been made news and forced onto Harris to denounce.

Trump says racist, offensive shit every single day, and it's just 'oh that's Trump for you'. He still seems to have the media absolutely stumped as to how to handle them in the way they do all other politicians.

It just seemed to me like a very forced issue, oh here we go, better stoke some outrage again.

I mean, this is just the most recent threatening violent batshittery. And we're meant to be mad at Joe Biden. Fuck off with imposing traditional norms only on those who live by norms, and letting off the hook those who don't.

apnews.com/article/election-trump-cheney-war-hawk-14e2037b4fd8d22acf64c8b888ce296d

Exactly, @MillyMichaelson. Totally different standards. Also with age issues. Biden's little slips triggered howls about senility, but Trump does far worse. Trump recently talked about voting in January, rather than November. If it had been Biden, the press would have been all over it.

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MsAmerica · 04/11/2024 02:50

Daisydaisydaizee · 02/11/2024 08:58

I'm not a fan of Kamala, but she's still a competent, experienced person with a background in law.

Why wpuld say you ate not a fan of you think she is competent?

Oh, too long to go into. But in comparison with, say, Hillary Clinton - Hillary is more experienced and more articulate. Kamala has had a tendency to be evasive in a faux-naive way, which I don't like, and sometimes sounds aggrieved in a bad way. However, that said, she's a million times more qualified than Trump. Being "competent" is a low bar. An incompetent president was a rarity until Trump.

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GoodnightIrene · 04/11/2024 03:12

Cnon · 01/11/2024 07:44

Yeah, and Prez Biden called Trump supporters garbage!

The president then added: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American. It’s totally contrary to everything we’ve done, everything we’ve been.”

apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e

So darn what?
Biden's no longer a candidate and it should be perfectly obvious that his target isn't ALL Trump supporters, just the absolute nutjob types who think e.g. it's OK to invade the Capitol, threatening police officers and democratically elected politicians who stand in their way.
Trump referred to the WHOLE of Puerto Ricans as garbage so which is the nastiest and least justified insult? How come Trump can be as vile as he likes and most people just shrug it off ?
Talk about a double standard!
USA politics have become utterly toxic in no small part to Trump exploiting a lot of bitter and very naive people. If he wasn't after their votes he'd be utterly contemptuous of them and wouldn't give them the time of day.

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