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Reeve an unstoppable force or a puppet?

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justasking111 · 13/10/2024 13:20

I honestly can't decide if she's ploughing her own furrow regardless of the views of other MPs, Starmer can't interfere because of other turmoil.

Or whether Starmer is settling her up for a fall.

It's really perplexing.

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 14/10/2024 16:22

Goldman Sachs has a graduate programme. Reeves seems to have been interviewed when she was 21 and subsequently turned down a job. There doesn't seem to be any evidence of headhunting.

Seagall · 14/10/2024 16:24

username3678 · 13/10/2024 22:49

We don't have an independent press in the UK which is why Labour are getting ripped to shreds. Rich people don't like paying tax.

I don't think she's planning to tax the rich though is she?

username3678 · 14/10/2024 17:37

Seagall · 14/10/2024 16:24

I don't think she's planning to tax the rich though is she?

The Tory press are scaremongering about her taking all your money from under the mattress.

Zonder · 14/10/2024 19:28

Are we not supposed to criticise the government any more?
Criticism is one thing when it's justified. Banging on and on about legal irrelevancies is another. Unfortunately that's mostly what Labour are getting.

TizerorFizz · 15/10/2024 00:28

There’s a huge irony that Labour want to affect business after the disaster of Brexit but are increasing taxes on business. Tax and possibly NI. It’s not joined up thinking. Being anti business is in this government’s DNA. They are being told we are now a backwater as our access to the EU is compromised. We had it all and gave it away. Reeves needs to see the problems with not attracting business investment - it’s vital in the view of many. She’s ploughing her own furrow and it won’t end well. She’s also throwing small businesses who employ half of employees in this county under a bus by increased costs. They just don’t learn.

Zonder · 15/10/2024 08:28

BIossomtoes · 15/10/2024 07:36

Yeh but Taylor Swift...

justasking111 · 15/10/2024 08:30

In Ireland they woo with tax breaks. I wonder what was offered this time

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hamstersarse · 15/10/2024 09:04

Reeves is incompetent and out of her depth. But worse, she’s an ideological hell hole. She makes economic decisions based on these ideologies, not on what is best economically.

I think most Labour supporters are fine with that because they have this fictional boogey man of the evil rich person in their mind. Even when the VAT on private school thing will end up costing the government because of tax rebates that are possible due to their change of status, they are still happy cos they are disrupting rich people.

i just find it all childish, and I’m not even rich

TizerorFizz · 15/10/2024 09:16

@justasking111 Ireland has had a very clear policy of attracting investment by being a lower tax economy. They are in the EU, but we are not. The whole idea of trying to get investment is because we are losing out to other countries. We allowed the Brexit vote and now have dire consequences for business investment. What companies really want to be here with such difficult export and import arrangements that don’t happen in the vast majority of Europe. At the same time Reeves wants more tax from an already highly taxed economy - one assumes for political ideology reasons.

We also have low productivity and low growth. We have skill shortages and a workforce that likes a bit of part time work. We aren’t very attractive and £65b is diddly squat when the City of London begins to struggle. We will feel a very cold wind then.

EasternStandard · 15/10/2024 09:27

Alltheprettyseahorses · 14/10/2024 16:22

Goldman Sachs has a graduate programme. Reeves seems to have been interviewed when she was 21 and subsequently turned down a job. There doesn't seem to be any evidence of headhunting.

So interviewed for graduate programme becomes ‘headhunted by Goldman Sachs’

Blimey bit of a stretch

As for the rest @hamstersarse is close

BIossomtoes · 15/10/2024 09:31

Interviewed for a job at Goldman Sachs which she turned down. People who have done that must form a very small club.

I can’t believe how much some people actively want this government to fail. Why?

TizerorFizz · 15/10/2024 09:41

The government will do it all by themselves. They always do. What idiot turns down a job with Goldman Sachs? If that is true of course. She might have been offered nothing as we have no proof. She might know more if she had worked for them and possibly more able to understand business without the veil of political dogma and lies.

BIossomtoes · 15/10/2024 09:51

TizerorFizz · 15/10/2024 09:41

The government will do it all by themselves. They always do. What idiot turns down a job with Goldman Sachs? If that is true of course. She might have been offered nothing as we have no proof. She might know more if she had worked for them and possibly more able to understand business without the veil of political dogma and lies.

Of course it’s true. The mainstream media would have found someone ready to accuse her of lying by now if it wasn’t.

TizerorFizz · 15/10/2024 09:57

I would hope GS don’t care one bit. Probably so glad she didn’t come to them. Also their recruits have numerous interviews!

EasternStandard · 15/10/2024 10:01

TizerorFizz · 15/10/2024 09:41

The government will do it all by themselves. They always do. What idiot turns down a job with Goldman Sachs? If that is true of course. She might have been offered nothing as we have no proof. She might know more if she had worked for them and possibly more able to understand business without the veil of political dogma and lies.

Tbf it seems to be all over the shop anyway.

Look at interviewed for graduate programme turning into ’headhunted by Goldman Sachs’, not sure how that falsehood took hold

Alltheprettyseahorses · 15/10/2024 10:37

BIossomtoes · 15/10/2024 09:31

Interviewed for a job at Goldman Sachs which she turned down. People who have done that must form a very small club.

I can’t believe how much some people actively want this government to fail. Why?

No one wants any government to fail*. Labour has failed though and it's right and fair to analyse it.

*unless it's the government certain 'progressives' didn't vote for

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 11:06

Alltheprettyseahorses · 15/10/2024 10:37

No one wants any government to fail*. Labour has failed though and it's right and fair to analyse it.

*unless it's the government certain 'progressives' didn't vote for

Labour has failed though

In 100 days, how?

Reeves' government has just secured 63bn investment and 38,000 jobs for the UK

Alltheprettyseahorses · 15/10/2024 11:23

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 11:06

Labour has failed though

In 100 days, how?

Reeves' government has just secured 63bn investment and 38,000 jobs for the UK

Really? Sleaze, cronyism, lies, attacking the most vulnerable, utter ineffectiveness, tanking in the polls. Even the investment event was riddled with controversy eg P&O and Musk. Every day it's something new.

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 11:33

Controversy with P&O and Musk?

Are you in favour of fire and rehire?

As for Musk, did you read his comments during the Farage riots?

hamstersarse · 15/10/2024 12:55

As for Musk, did you read his comments during the Farage riots?

It doesn't really matter what Musk said (I happen to agree that Two Tier Kier is true) it is beside the point, we either want investors or not. No one can seriously tell me we wouldn't want Musk's businesses in the UK (Boring, Tesla, SpaceX Starlink etc) and if you do tell me that, you tell me your ideology overrides common sense.

username3678 · 15/10/2024 13:08

hamstersarse · 15/10/2024 12:55

As for Musk, did you read his comments during the Farage riots?

It doesn't really matter what Musk said (I happen to agree that Two Tier Kier is true) it is beside the point, we either want investors or not. No one can seriously tell me we wouldn't want Musk's businesses in the UK (Boring, Tesla, SpaceX Starlink etc) and if you do tell me that, you tell me your ideology overrides common sense.

Tell you what overrides common sense, expecting to be competitive after voting Brexit. Who wants all the expense and red tape? Tell you who overrode common sense. The Tories for holding the referendum. Reeves and Co are having to pick up the pieces of disastrous Tory policies and catastrophic errors - I don't envy them trying to attract investment.

hamstersarse · 15/10/2024 13:29

username3678 · 15/10/2024 13:08

Tell you what overrides common sense, expecting to be competitive after voting Brexit. Who wants all the expense and red tape? Tell you who overrode common sense. The Tories for holding the referendum. Reeves and Co are having to pick up the pieces of disastrous Tory policies and catastrophic errors - I don't envy them trying to attract investment.

Musk has said he would be interested in investing in the UK.....yet they deliberately snubbed him cos of his hurty words.

Are you seriously telling me that the EU has less red tape and expense?

username3678 · 15/10/2024 13:41

hamstersarse · 15/10/2024 13:29

Musk has said he would be interested in investing in the UK.....yet they deliberately snubbed him cos of his hurty words.

Are you seriously telling me that the EU has less red tape and expense?

Yes hamster arse, I'm seriously telling you that there's less red tape and expense primarily regarding supply chains.

Members of the EU have integrated supply chains where trade can flow freely with no additional paperwork. With Brexit, British businesses have a lot more paperwork in order to move goods between the two trading blocks.

hamstersarse · 15/10/2024 14:23

username3678 · 15/10/2024 13:41

Yes hamster arse, I'm seriously telling you that there's less red tape and expense primarily regarding supply chains.

Members of the EU have integrated supply chains where trade can flow freely with no additional paperwork. With Brexit, British businesses have a lot more paperwork in order to move goods between the two trading blocks.

“Trading with the EU tends to have higher regulatory compliance costs and potentially higher customs and tariff-related expenses, but offers a much larger market.

Trading with the UK may have slightly lower administrative costs post-Brexit in some areas, but the market is smaller, and new customs requirements add complexities.

In general, the cost difference depends heavily on the specific industry and product being traded, but the overall trend is that trading with the EU could involve higher regulatory and compliance costs, while trading with the UK might be simpler in some aspects, especially for smaller-scale trade.“

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