Does it feel like war is coming?

[AllieDeCorbeau]

I have been very fortunate to never have had to experience war firsthand. I've seen it from the safety of my home, but I've never had it in my backyard.
i've been thinking a lot lately about World War I and World War II. I wonder if they, specifically the women and men in Britain, could feel it coming? If the air somehow changed. If the whispers gathered and floated through the air, not heard, but felt. i'm sure they would've known that. It was headed their way because of the buildup and all the talk in the newspapers. but was there a little something extra that let them know their lives were about to change?
I ask this because I find myself wanting to move farther out of central London. It's not just the housing prices. It's something else. The whole country feels like we're waiting for some gust of wind to knock over our straw houses. And once it happens, once the houses are knocked over, the rest will be quick. It seems our opponent has been moving their pieces across the chessboard before we've even move our first pawn.
perhaps I'm being paranoid. Perhaps my willingness to watch the news these past few years is making me pay attention.

Now this post isn’t even remotely suspect is it……!

How so?

It's like a piece of "creative writing".

You're imagining war how it was during WW1 and 2. We're well "advanced" from that now, meaning that we won't ever have a "boots on the ground" type of war again. Why? Because of the countries that have nuclear weapons and are part of NATO which obviously includes us

Now nuclear weapons are of course scary BUT if someone was to start a war with us ie nuke us, mutually assured destruction would happen and most of the world would be destroyed in a matter of days if not hours. Crazy stuff but because of mutually assured destruction, no one actually wants to use them because of the outcome. Yes countries that Russia and North Korea will constantly threaten it but they know they'd be buggered too. You can only survive so long in your cosy little bunker after all.

So no, I don't think war is coming. Civil war due to continued cost of living, lack of prospects, failing governments? A lot more likely and actually a lot more scary!

Sorry for the waffle. My dad is in the MOD and it has rubbed off on me slightly 🤣

There are wars going on already in the Middle East, Ukraine, Sudan as well as genocides of the Rohinger to name but a few. If war spreads there will be use of chemical (as in Syria) and nuclear weapons as well as attacks on technology. No one could see WW1 coming - not even the government - but many could see that WW2 was about to happen.

If there is a war the effect on the uk is far more likely to involve fuel shortages, food shortages and cyber attacks than actual bombs dropping.

@AllieDeCorbeau everything about is is odd. The writing style, the lack of logic, the timing of it….the whole thing. Sorry if that offends.

I hear you OP. I feel it too. I worry for my children's sake and for their (unborn as yet) children.
I am a big follower of geopolitics and what I hear and read, it worries me immensely. I can't do anything about personally, but if I were to consider having children now, I would make very different choices, ie have none.

Who is "our opponent"?

Nope, the eighties were much worse.

Who do you think well be at war with? Who will be our allies? Will we be in the right?

Yes absolutely, I'm off to dig a trench

It's hard to answer as you provided no specifics. It does seem that in WWI and WWII people did see it coming.

In the U.S., there is an uneasy feeling with many people, noting that:

1. Trump supporters like violence.
2. Trump supporters have a lot of guns
3. Trump supports talk not unfavorably about a coming civil war.

I think it is possible that if western Europe doesn't back Ukraine, Putin will escalate, but you didn't say if that's part of your thinking.

The media has the amazing ability to make people worry about war and global warming at the same time. If they’re so convinced we’re all about to get bombed I wish they’d shut up about the icecaps. Or vice versa.

WW2 had a massive build up with the Nazis gaining power and persecuting those they didn't like throughout the 30s in Germany I think most intelligent people at the time could see where it was heading. Of course the flow of information to and amongst 'normal folk' was very different to what we have today.

You are wrong stating that no-one saw WW1 coming. In actual fact it the British government spent a fee years drawing up a War Book in preparation given the unrest in the Balkans and the militarisation of Germany by the Kaiser. It covered everything from troop mobilisation and movement, food supplies, medical supplies and much more.

The French did not and their preparations and conditions were far worse than the British.

I don't think we will see war on our soil, what is happening in Russia and Gaza are just more examples of superpowers love of war.

Why in this century we still see wars is beyond me, you would have thought we would have learned. The pain and suffering being endured is unimaginable. Children being hurt and killed is by far the saddest consequence because they know nothing but love and can't comprehend it. Don't forget the pain inflicted on parents when a child is lost in these circumstances.

You can only pray and do everything in your power to ensure peace. I certainly will not fight and not will let my children join any war.

Why did you quote the whole OP?

Didnt know you could shorten it?
Why did you quote me? Shall we do a men and have a war over it?

You just write your post. You don't need to quote the OP.

The reason I quoted you was because you wouldn't have known I was addressing you if I hadn't done so.

The chance is increasing with Russia having attacks on their soil

Super, thanks

After today I think I've changed my mind, I think war is now coming. I'm afraid Israel is now a terrorist state with nuclear weapons. Despite this appalling terrorist attack that has killed thousands of people...not a word of criticism from Biden.

I'm appalled by this act and people need to realise we can't carry on supporting states like Israel and failure to curb this state will drag us all into a conflict that we are sure to lose.

We also need to get a grip with our role with the Ukraine and Russian conflict. Using tax payers money to fund a war while letting our own pensioners freeze to death beggars belief

I'm afraid we are courting war and our politicians and like puppets pandering the American death machine and the Ponzi dollar

I had a bad dream a week ago, in the dream I woke up to the news that terrorists had taken over London in their thousands and it had been declared an Islamic state.

I think an escalation of terrorism is possible in response to current Middle east problems.

I do not think a traditional war with troops on the ground is.

I think looking at Russia and China... cyber attacks, fuel, food and medication shortages may bring about civil uprisings in the uk.
(Pharmacy worker) imagine no Internet tomorrow... for weeks. Imagine they attack the internal nhs system, chain shops, councils, mobile phone network... so even local computing, talking by phone cannot be done. (Switching to phone over broadband seems daft, but hey). Then, as winter approaches, power routing systems, water. No shots need to be fired. (And if they were it would be by drones remotely operated). War has a different face nowadays.