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19 replies

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:12

  1. Be friends with or have a relationship with someone of a different political persuasion? Particularly, could you be comfortable with an extreme rightwinger or extreme leftwinger?
  2. Date someone from a different religion? Particularly if they are Hindu, or Muslim, or Jewish if you are Christian.
  3. Could you be friends with or get along with someone who advocates for the death penalty (or adversely, is against the death penalty), is against or for transgender issues that differ from your views?
  4. Finally, could you be comfortable knowing, talking to, spending time with, anyone who has committed a serious crime in their lifetime even if they have done serving their sentence?
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Thatsnotmynose · 26/07/2024 16:15
  1. Yes fine as long as they're not a cunt about it
  2. No because I can't get my head around being that invested in a belief that can't be proven
  3. See number 1.
  4. Depends on the crime surely. I once stole a tester lipstick from superdrug as a tween. I hope my DH won't divorce me
Wigtopia · 26/07/2024 16:17

1, no
2, yes
3, no
4, possibly depending on the type of crime.

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:17

Thatsnotmynose · 26/07/2024 16:15

  1. Yes fine as long as they're not a cunt about it
  2. No because I can't get my head around being that invested in a belief that can't be proven
  3. See number 1.
  4. Depends on the crime surely. I once stole a tester lipstick from superdrug as a tween. I hope my DH won't divorce me
Edited

Thanks for reminding me to edit my last question to "serious crime."

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Wigtopia · 26/07/2024 16:18

Now that 4 is serious crime, unlikely

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:19

Wigtopia · 26/07/2024 16:18

Now that 4 is serious crime, unlikely

even if they have done serving their sentence?

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NetballHoop · 26/07/2024 16:25

1 - Yes
2 - Yes
3 - Reluctantly and I'd make a point of correcting their wrongness
4 - Probably not

Edited to say that for number 4 I assumed that the question was could I have a relationship with them. I would possibly be prepared to know them as an acquaintance.

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:27

NetballHoop · 26/07/2024 16:25

1 - Yes
2 - Yes
3 - Reluctantly and I'd make a point of correcting their wrongness
4 - Probably not

Edited to say that for number 4 I assumed that the question was could I have a relationship with them. I would possibly be prepared to know them as an acquaintance.

Edited

Something tells me #3 would be probably not if your attitude is that their views are wrong and need to be corrected.

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Wigtopia · 26/07/2024 16:27

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:19

even if they have done serving their sentence?

Serious to me is murderer, rapist, child abuser. I honestly don’t think I could.

cupcaske123 · 26/07/2024 16:28

Be friends with or have a relationship with someone of a different political persuasion? Particularly, could you be comfortable with an extreme rightwinger or extreme leftwinger?

Different political persuasion, yes. Extreme views, no absolutely not.

Date someone from a different religion? Particularly if they are Hindu, or Muslim, or Jewish if you are Christian.

Depends how fervent they are regarding religion.

Could you be friends with or get along with someone who advocates for the death penalty (or adversely, is against the death penalty),

Advocates for the death penalty, absolutely not.

Is against or for transgender issues that differ from your views?

As long as they're not always banging on about it, yes.

Finally, could you be comfortable knowing, talking to, spending time with, anyone who has committed a serious crime in their lifetime even if they have done serving their sentence?

Depends on the crime but yes

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:29

Wigtopia · 26/07/2024 16:27

Serious to me is murderer, rapist, child abuser. I honestly don’t think I could.

Fair enough. Serious could also mean armed robbery or vehicle theft, neither of which are petty crimes.
I know question 4 is difficult to qualify, so maybe what I need to do is again edit the question as to be MORE specific.

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NetballHoop · 26/07/2024 16:30

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:27

Something tells me #3 would be probably not if your attitude is that their views are wrong and need to be corrected.

Well I know a few people who are wrong about certain things and we still get on. I do try (not obsessively) to get them to change their minds though.

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:32

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:12

  1. Be friends with or have a relationship with someone of a different political persuasion? Particularly, could you be comfortable with an extreme rightwinger or extreme leftwinger?
  2. Date someone from a different religion? Particularly if they are Hindu, or Muslim, or Jewish if you are Christian.
  3. Could you be friends with or get along with someone who advocates for the death penalty (or adversely, is against the death penalty), is against or for transgender issues that differ from your views?
  4. Finally, could you be comfortable knowing, talking to, spending time with, anyone who has committed a serious crime in their lifetime even if they have done serving their sentence?

Too late to do an edit but I wanted to clarify question #4 for those who don't know what I mean by serious crime. Clearly most of us would be uncomfortable with someone who murdered someone or molested a child. But serious crime could also mean vehicle theft, armed robbery, break and enter, and a whole host of other "serious" crimes that didn't involve murder or molestation.
So answer the question with a qualifier as to which crimes you could forgive if the sentence has been served and which crimes you could not forgive. If you so chose.

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Thatsnotmynose · 26/07/2024 16:32

If 4 is violent crime then no, but if 4 was corporate fraud then I'd live with it as long as he'd stashed the cash somewhere and we could live the high life 🤑

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:34

Thatsnotmynose · 26/07/2024 16:32

If 4 is violent crime then no, but if 4 was corporate fraud then I'd live with it as long as he'd stashed the cash somewhere and we could live the high life 🤑

LOL

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TheHuntSyndicate · 26/07/2024 17:09

Be friends with or have a relationship with someone of a different political persuasion? Particularly, could you be comfortable with an extreme rightwinger or extreme leftwinger? Answer - I loathe and despise all left wingers so absolutely not!

• Date someone from a different religion? Particularly if they are Hindu, or Muslim, or Jewish if you are Christian. Answer - No.

• Could you be friends with or get along with someone who advocates for the death penalty (or adversely, is against the death penalty), is against or for transgender issues that differ from your views? Answer - I'm Dow the death penalty but could be friends with someone who is against it. I absolutely could not be friends with anyone who supports transgender in any shape or form.

• Finally, could you be comfortable knowing, talking to, spending time with, anyone who has committed a serious crime in their lifetime even if they have done serving their sentence? Answer - it would depend on the nature of the crime and whether the person was remorseful. Example being someone I was close to growing up, murdered his girlfriend. (Both under 18).

He served his time and now has a family of his own and continues his life as if nothing h ever happened. He does a lot of charity work.

I cannot be friends with him as whilst I don't think he is a danger to others, the murder was horrific and her mother died only a few years later and in dreadful torment.

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 20:30

TheHuntSyndicate · 26/07/2024 17:09

Be friends with or have a relationship with someone of a different political persuasion? Particularly, could you be comfortable with an extreme rightwinger or extreme leftwinger? Answer - I loathe and despise all left wingers so absolutely not!

• Date someone from a different religion? Particularly if they are Hindu, or Muslim, or Jewish if you are Christian. Answer - No.

• Could you be friends with or get along with someone who advocates for the death penalty (or adversely, is against the death penalty), is against or for transgender issues that differ from your views? Answer - I'm Dow the death penalty but could be friends with someone who is against it. I absolutely could not be friends with anyone who supports transgender in any shape or form.

• Finally, could you be comfortable knowing, talking to, spending time with, anyone who has committed a serious crime in their lifetime even if they have done serving their sentence? Answer - it would depend on the nature of the crime and whether the person was remorseful. Example being someone I was close to growing up, murdered his girlfriend. (Both under 18).

He served his time and now has a family of his own and continues his life as if nothing h ever happened. He does a lot of charity work.

I cannot be friends with him as whilst I don't think he is a danger to others, the murder was horrific and her mother died only a few years later and in dreadful torment.

I'm sorry to say this, but.............
I loathe and despise all left wingers so absolutely not!
Speaks volumes.
• Date someone from a different religion? Particularly if they are Hindu, or Muslim, or Jewish if you are Christian. Answer - No.
Speaks volumes.
I absolutely could not be friends with anyone who supports transgender in any shape or form.
Speaks volumes.
Personally, I could NOT be comfortable with someone with a mind that is THAT bigoted and close-minded. Just sayin'

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C0rdeliaChase · 26/07/2024 20:41
  1. Of a different political persuasion, yes. Extreme left/right wing? No.

  2. Already did/do. Although not really that different. I'm an atheist, DH is a Christian.

  3. Yes, as long as they're not militant about it.

  4. No.

TheNuthatch · 26/07/2024 23:36

ramblingfool · 26/07/2024 16:12

  1. Be friends with or have a relationship with someone of a different political persuasion? Particularly, could you be comfortable with an extreme rightwinger or extreme leftwinger?
  2. Date someone from a different religion? Particularly if they are Hindu, or Muslim, or Jewish if you are Christian.
  3. Could you be friends with or get along with someone who advocates for the death penalty (or adversely, is against the death penalty), is against or for transgender issues that differ from your views?
  4. Finally, could you be comfortable knowing, talking to, spending time with, anyone who has committed a serious crime in their lifetime even if they have done serving their sentence?

1/Yes. I am a centre right conservative, DH is a proper lefty Corbyn fan.

2/Yes, As long as my beliefs were also respected. I would never cover my hair for example.

3/ Yes. Again my DH and I are opposites here.

4/Yes, unless it was a sexual offence. I believe in second chances and the opportunity to repent.

As you can probably tell by my answers, my DH and I have completely opposing views on most things 😁 but I love that! I enjoy debating and hearing his opinions. Life is much more interesting if you share it with people different to you. I hate tribalism.

BIossomtoes · 28/07/2024 12:20

As a lefty married to a Tory, yes. I have no religion and have no problem with anyone else’s. I couldn’t live with someone who supports capital punishment or is transphobic. It depends entirely on the crime and the circumstances in which it was committed.

It’s really interesting thread.

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